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Commentary: U.S. will eventually love health care overhaul
McClatchy News ^ | April 1, 2010 | By James Werrell [not Wanker in name, but in spirit]

Posted on 04/02/2010 10:37:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The scare tactics used to oppose Medicare in the 1960s -- not to mention Social Security in the 1940s -- were much the same as what critics of comprehensive health care reform are saying about the bill signed into law by the president this week. If anything, the current rhetoric is even more overheated: "This is a socialistic plan to deprive you of your freedom, kill your grandmother and bankrupt the nation in the process."

Americans should take comfort from that. The nation came to love both Social Security and Medicare, and I predict they will come to love the new health care reforms, too.

I will go out on a limb and make this prediction: At a Tea Party rally some 20 or 30 years down the road, an enraged citizen at a town hall meeting, probably in South Carolina, will shout the words: "Keep your government hands off my Obamacare!"

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; journalism; obamacare; socialism
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1 posted on 04/02/2010 10:37:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow, what is that person smoking??


2 posted on 04/02/2010 10:38:28 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What a Wanker.


3 posted on 04/02/2010 10:40:00 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

James Wanker????

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


4 posted on 04/02/2010 10:40:05 AM PDT by misterrob (Have you tea bagged a liberal today?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You F’n moron!!! Nobody LOVES SS and Medicare. They are BROKE!!!!! DRs HATE Medicare!!!!! SS is a travesty in that is was never intended to be 100% of retirement!! It causes people to not plan!!

Idiot Moron!!!!! Those two “examples” are going to break the back of our nation. That’s why you like them.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 10:40:25 AM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated public is the biggest threat to our democracy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wanker's in denial. Social Security and Medicare ARE bankrupting the nation.

Argument over.

6 posted on 04/02/2010 10:40:54 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Socialism is for people who've given up.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And if we don't learn to love it, The Ministry of Love will send us to Room 101 until we do.

We have ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia!

7 posted on 04/02/2010 10:41:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: GeronL

This is the standard line from McClatchy papers. The don’t even try to hide their bias anymore.


8 posted on 04/02/2010 10:42:07 AM PDT by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Obamacare Caduceus, medium version
9 posted on 04/02/2010 10:42:41 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Is he talking about those other programs that are currently bankrupt and will soon cause a national financial crisis?
10 posted on 04/02/2010 10:44:07 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: Oceander

Awesome graphic.


11 posted on 04/02/2010 10:44:42 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Well, if I remember right, Winston came to love Big Brother,too.

Orwell was a prophet.

12 posted on 04/02/2010 10:44:46 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What's not to like? Once this bill is in place: Insurers won't be able to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions.

Which will make rates go up 5 to 10%

The so-called "donut hole" in prescription drug plans for seniors will disappear.

Which will cause Medicare drug plan premiums to go up at least 25% or more.

Small businesses will get tax credits to extend coverage to employees. Which aren't enough to cover the cost, so they will be ignored.

Children will be able to remain on parents' insurance plans until age 26.

Another 5 to 8% rate increase

Insurers won't be able to set lifetime caps on coverage.

Another 5 to 8% rate increase

Coverage will include preventive care. 85% of the cost will be rolled into premiums by law

People will not lose coverage because they get sick.

They never did.

Medicare will be expanded in rural areas.

Can't wait for the tax increases for THAT one.

More affordable coverage will be available to early retirees.

complete lie

13 posted on 04/02/2010 10:45:11 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
By James Wanker

YGTBSM.

(OMGLOLWTF)

14 posted on 04/02/2010 10:45:15 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Lazamataz

GMTA, Laz. :-)


15 posted on 04/02/2010 10:45:16 AM PDT by wbill
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To: engrpat
None of them try to hide their bias any more.

Newspapers are Government Propaganda Organs, pure and simple.

16 posted on 04/02/2010 10:45:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No he is wrong. I remember the against Medicare arguements as my family used to read that stuff out loud and discuss it. The against turned out to be right in that it would cost much more. What is different is that most Americans were and still are against this awful bill and our governent went a head and passed it anyway.


17 posted on 04/02/2010 10:48:08 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is just amazing that these idiots think endless amounts of everything will be free forever. They do not grasp that there is not, nor can there be, the money to pay for their $100T fantasies.

More and more they are like insane people, a starving man in the desert who demands a sandwich because he *wants* one! It is a reliance on magic to provide. That if he prays to the right god, or just keeps screaming, somehow, some way, a sandwich will appear before him.


18 posted on 04/02/2010 10:48:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The wrirter sure lives up to his last name doesn’t he?


19 posted on 04/02/2010 10:49:06 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Woebama
Thanks. It goes along with the more general Obamareich standard:

Obamareich Standard
20 posted on 04/02/2010 10:51:17 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: wbill

“Well, if I remember right, Winston came to love Big Brother,too.

Orwell was a prophet.”

That bears repeating. Spot on.


21 posted on 04/02/2010 10:51:53 AM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The nation came to love both Social Security and Medicare, and I predict they will come to love the new health care reforms, too.

That's possibly true - that doesn't make it a good thing.

The Wild and Free Pigs of the Okefenokee Swamp

22 posted on 04/02/2010 10:52:04 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is truth in the claim that people like Medicare. This simply means that they fear the sudden removal of a source of income which is confiscated from their neighbors.

Even nominal conservatives are seduced by this. If the economic practice of a nation is to feed off your neighbor, then we grow accustomed to it, and fear a change in this practice.

The real question is “would we be better off if the nation had never established Medicare?”

We should be considering a Constitutional amendment abolishing all transfer payments / entitlement programs.

“Congress shall pass no law where money or goods or service is given to an individual based on need or condition.”


23 posted on 04/02/2010 10:53:40 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mr. Wanker, please keep your hands where we can see them.


24 posted on 04/02/2010 10:53:59 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hopefully obamacare will kill this guy!


25 posted on 04/02/2010 10:54:29 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Lazamataz

“We have ALWAYS been at war with Eurasia!”

Until tomorrow, when we shall be at war with Oceania....

And Eurasia is our longtime steadfast ally, as they have always been.

Miniluv is hard at work right now, taking on more IRS agents whose sole purpose is to assure compliance with either purchasing the basic government “health insurance”, or the attendant fines for non-compliance.

Either way, showing your “love” of the regime is gonna cost ya.


26 posted on 04/02/2010 10:55:47 AM PDT by alloysteel (....the Kennedys can be regarded as dysfunctional. Even in death.)
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To: my small voice

It’s the DNC talking point. I see it all over the MSM. “The WILDLY popular SS and Medicare.”


27 posted on 04/02/2010 10:56:02 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: SIDENET

Go stuff your alphabet soup up your backside!!!


28 posted on 04/02/2010 10:56:28 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I was doing research on ‘the original cost of medicare’ and choked on this thread, comparing ‘obamacare’ estimates against medicare estimates:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6176555

Remember, I don’t write this stuff...

When Medicare, the government’s health care system for the elderly and disabled, was first enacted in 1965, lawmakers predicted it would cost $9 billion by 1990. In fact, it cost $67 billion that year.

The excuses follow: ...The people in charge then had NO reason to suspect that over a generation & a half, that the biggest burden of tax-paying would shift to the ones least able to bear the burden.

and: ...They had no reason to suspect that future administrations would willingly exchange needed tax revenues for lobbyist money, tied to quid pro quo that stripped away rules needed to make this a fair society.

I read this in all but stunned silence, and stopped my research right there. The fact that Republicans said this would happen - doesn’t matter. They blame the R’s for the cost problems...and will continue to blame them now (even though it is the conservatives that complain the loudest now - not the ‘Republicans’)...


29 posted on 04/02/2010 11:00:57 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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To: dalereed
Damn, Dale.

Did I hit a nerve?

30 posted on 04/02/2010 11:01:51 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: alloysteel
Ignorance is Strength.

Your post has been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov

I've been trying to incorporate the "flag" email account into as many posts as posible. It seemed to have just been forgotten about.

31 posted on 04/02/2010 11:02:23 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

James WANKER??

LOL!!


32 posted on 04/02/2010 11:02:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

[Americans should take comfort from that. The nation came to love both Social Security and Medicare, and I predict they will come to love the new health care reforms, too.]

Don’t put words in my mouth. I would have preferred to handle each in my own way!


33 posted on 04/02/2010 11:03:04 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The article was written on April 1st.


34 posted on 04/02/2010 11:03:37 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

This is one of the many flaws in the socialist thought process.

They are economic idiots.

They assume production.

They assume that money will forever continue to flow into government coffers like Manna from heaven.

After all, all they have to do is jack up taxes on “the rich”!


35 posted on 04/02/2010 11:04:48 AM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let me think about for a bit...mmmmmnoooooope.


36 posted on 04/02/2010 11:06:13 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: misterrob

A more accurate name there never was.


37 posted on 04/02/2010 11:08:30 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: GeronL

>>Wow, what is that person smoking??

Perhaps he’d just been flogged until his morale improved?


38 posted on 04/02/2010 11:11:49 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: SIDENET

Stifle your LOLz!


39 posted on 04/02/2010 11:13:45 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Okay, now I have to shut off the computer because it’s hard to clean vomit from a keyboard and monitor when it’s turned on.

Liberals and Zer0bama supports MUST be living in an altered universe. It’s obvious they’re not living in the same world as we are.


40 posted on 04/02/2010 11:14:32 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: sam_paine
Stifle your LOLz!

My LOLz have indeed, been stifled.

;-)

41 posted on 04/02/2010 11:16:16 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: SIDENET

You’re god damn right!!!!


42 posted on 04/02/2010 11:16:30 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah, like citizens of the UK love the NHS. /sarc


43 posted on 04/02/2010 11:19:56 AM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: dalereed
I can tell.

I got four exclamation points on that last post from you.

That's pretty serious.

May I recommend Caps lock? Sometimes, nothing less will do.


44 posted on 04/02/2010 11:21:35 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Commentary: U.S. will eventually love health care overhaul”

What they meant was eventually we’ll be afraid to criticize it.


45 posted on 04/02/2010 11:33:15 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I invite this author to come to my residence and personally convince me of his position.

I am more than unhappy with this bill, and with NObama, Reid, & Pelosi in general.


46 posted on 04/02/2010 11:36:30 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: dalereed; SIDENET
PMFJI, WTFIGO? WOB IMNSHO. JFYI, INAL IYKWIM.

GR&D

47 posted on 04/02/2010 11:43:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I just LOVE these Friday Silliness threads!


48 posted on 04/02/2010 11:44:13 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Defending the Constitution is CENTRIST; not RIGHT WING! Don't be labeled!)
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To: Lazamataz

GMTA?


49 posted on 04/02/2010 11:44:38 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

50 posted on 04/02/2010 11:44:48 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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