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McConnell: Full health repeal 'probably' won't happen with Obama
The Hill ^ | APRIL 2, 2010 | Jordan Fabian

Posted on 04/02/2010 1:59:34 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Repealing the entire healthcare bill "probably" will not happen with President Barack Obama in the White House, the Senate's top Republican said Friday.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) said at a speaking engagement that a full repeal may be unlikely, but that the GOP could be able to repeal parts of it in the fall, even if they don't win back majorities in both houses.

The Louisville Courier-Journal reported:

He acknowledged there is “probably not” a chance of repealing the full measure while President Barack Obama is in office.

Speaking to a Louisville audience, McConnell said he is hopeful for GOP gains in the fall election, based partly on recent poll results.

“Will that make full repeal possible? It might not,” McConnell said at a forum sponsored by Greater Louisville Inc., the metro chamber of commerce.

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1 posted on 04/02/2010 1:59:34 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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2 posted on 04/02/2010 1:59:49 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Oh please. McConnell is such a limp wristed, spineless weasel, he ‘d vote against repeal if Reagan were in the friggin’ White House.


3 posted on 04/02/2010 2:01:02 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: RobinMasters

McConnell is setting up the future failure of the GOP.

Too few conservatives (of either Party) in Congress. Too many liberals of both stripes.


4 posted on 04/02/2010 2:01:03 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: RobinMasters

I am still convinced the courts, especially the Supreme Court, will strike it down anyway.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 2:02:03 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: RobinMasters
Ummm...you really think the Repubs will get the 2/3 number to override a veto?

McConnell's just being practical here. But I thought it interesting that he said repeal of some parts would happen even if Repubs did NOT get a majority.

6 posted on 04/02/2010 2:03:20 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Oldpuppymax

The only way to get full repeal under Obama is to have 67 Senators to vote to do it. We might — might — get 50 Republicans in Jan. 2011.

Who are the other 17?

McConnell, despite his history, is absolutely right. We do what we can and keep emphasizing in 2012 that the only way to get full repeal is to have the GOP running the show.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 2:04:21 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: K-oneTexas

What McConnell is saying is true as Congress can defund parts of the HC plan. The GOP will need the same political scenario the Rats had at first (White House and veto-proof majority) to repeal via legislation. The SCOTUS can strike it down on constitutionality issues.


8 posted on 04/02/2010 2:05:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: Persevero

I think you’re right in part. But remember that the courts don’t declare whole bills unconstitutional. They will probably gut this one, making the insurance purchasing requirement illegal, but there is a lot of crap that will stay.


9 posted on 04/02/2010 2:06:10 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: RobinMasters

Mitch McConnell, the Master of Mediocrity

Imagine him as one of George Washington’s generals


10 posted on 04/02/2010 2:06:49 PM PDT by silverleaf (Karl Marx was NOT one of America's Founding Fathers)
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To: what's up

He needs to add to that statement that they can defund it until we either have 1. the numbers to over ride a veto or 2. a new presidnet who won’t veto it!


11 posted on 04/02/2010 2:06:53 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: RobinMasters

well, that’s the spirit...IDIOT...Keep the troops up, don’t knock them down. Good Ole’ Republicans...VOTE THEM ALL OUT.


12 posted on 04/02/2010 2:06:53 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: AmishDude

Perhaps. I eagerly await their decision.


13 posted on 04/02/2010 2:07:12 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Oh please. McConnell is such a limp wristed, spineless weasel, he ‘d vote against repeal if Reagan were in the friggin’ White House.

There are simply not enough seats up for grabs to override an Obama veto. The repeal will have to wait until the His Majesty King Baraq I leaves the White House.

14 posted on 04/02/2010 2:08:36 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: DarthVader

Repeal - just don’t see it happening with the current makeup of Congress.

Not funding portions - again don’t see it happening with the current makeup of Congress.

Unless changes are made in the November elections to shift the balance to a more conservative Congress (even with RINO’s in Conservative clothing) I don’t see it happening.

That’s my take on McConnell hedging his bets.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 2:08:37 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: RobinMasters
I don't think anyone expects the Bill to be overturned in 2010.

Most people know that they are going to have to wait to get a Republican in the White House.

The issue that the GOP must make repealing it a top priority.

16 posted on 04/02/2010 2:09:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: RobinMasters
McConnell is right. The GOP didn't have the votes to stop the bill and they won't have the votes to repeal it either after November. But they can get a lot of votes by letting people know what changes they intend to make on the bill. In other words - everyone in DC seems to agree that the bill as is - is not ok and needs *fixing* - so the pubbies can explain how they intend to fix it if people will vote them in come November.

Things can be taken out - other things can be put it - costs can be addressed - the mandate can be taken out etc etc

17 posted on 04/02/2010 2:14:04 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: RobinMasters

Gotta love the NancyBoy party.


18 posted on 04/02/2010 2:15:11 PM PDT by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: Persevero

it’s nice to hope, but on what basis will they strike it down? also, remember, scotus includes some justices who care as much about the constitution as rep. phil hare.


19 posted on 04/02/2010 2:15:34 PM PDT by garageconservative
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To: RobinMasters
I can accept this from McConnell if he would just include a small positive projection such as:

"A full repeal will not likely happen this Fall because we do not antipcipate on have 2/3 of the Senate under GOP control and we do expect with certainty that the President will veto our attempt at full repeal. But we certainly look forward to having a new President elected in 2012 who will sign a full repeal amongst other things."

20 posted on 04/02/2010 2:17:10 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: what's up

I think McConnell is being smart! Let the community organizer stew for the next 3 years and campaign speechify the country into flaming resolve!

** The more he lashes out at the American people the better the useful idiots and independents get a glimpse of his bitter angry thoughts!


21 posted on 04/02/2010 2:18:04 PM PDT by parisa
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To: AmishDude
We do what we can and keep emphasizing in 2012 that the only way to get full repeal is to have the GOP running the show.

As we get closer to November, hopefully the GOP will sense just that after putting their finger to the wind and will start to hammer that home.

If 75% of Americans actually hate this turd of a law, perhaps they will cross party lines to get the right people in to office to blow it away. And then redo it right.

22 posted on 04/02/2010 2:18:20 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: AmishDude
We might — might — get 50 Republicans in Jan. 2011.

That should be enough to impeach Obama through reconciliation and repeal the bill. :-)

23 posted on 04/02/2010 2:18:40 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: RobinMasters
Repealing the entire healthcare bill "probably" will not happen with President Barack Obama in the White House ...

If the Supreme Court does its job, the entire bill will be tossed out as unconstitutional, which it is.

24 posted on 04/02/2010 2:21:00 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: RobinMasters

A simple way to check for nads without unzipping a politician’s fly.

Just ask what he intends to do about Obamacare.


25 posted on 04/02/2010 2:26:44 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Sunsong

Yes, but McConnell advertises that the full bill “needs adjustments”. He should not voice anything about fixing what can be fixed, even though that is reality, because the plan going forward can be taken out of context.

Instead he needs to motivate and sustain voter anger at the entire bill as a blatant takeover of the United States by socialists.

In the House, Boehner did the right thing, he spoke that it may not be possible to repeal with Obama in the White House but that he would see that it was defunded.

So what Boehner does differently and appropriately that McConnell fails to do is to introduce a new effort ‘defund’ as a bridge to ‘repeal’.

McConnell is tone-deaf here because he can be easily misconstrued to emphasize that Obamacare is here to stay and the best that can be done is to “fix certain things” about it.


26 posted on 04/02/2010 2:27:54 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: RobinMasters

Sen. McConnel aided the socialists n passing the healthcare bill.

He had the chance 6 months ago to have the bill read on the Senate floor but choose not to. So that is why we are just finding out what is in the bill.

There are way too many progrssive (socialist) republicans in congress. And me thinks McConnel is one of them.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 2:29:26 PM PDT by stockpirate ("....When the government fears the people you have liberty" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RobinMasters

Republicans are DEAD.

Even now, when the commies have stolen the earnings of us, our children and grandchildren, stolen our private healthcare, and destroyed capitalism.

The Republicans STILL will not lead us to the promised land.

They are afraid.

Who needs them?


28 posted on 04/02/2010 2:29:28 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: RobinMasters
Fine, but let's get started on it. If we have to wait until January 21st, 2013 to get full repeal - signing the repeal bill should be the first official act of President Palin (or whomever else becomes the next President) - then we have to wait, but that cannot be an excuse for not moving full ahead on it now. Force Obastard to be the sole obstacle to real healthcare reform by forcing the bastard to veto any repeal/replace/reform bill that gets sent to the Whitehouse.

Three Rs II, small version
29 posted on 04/02/2010 2:32:23 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: roses of sharon

The RNC is too infested with RINOs, Sex pervs of all types, and outright carpet baggers.

We have to show up in the primaries to oust the insiders.

McCain OUT
Crist OUT
every one of these GOP slimes must be pushed out in the primaries.


30 posted on 04/02/2010 2:32:52 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Don’t kid yourselves. Many Republicans in Congress are SALIVATING over the prospect of presiding over a Socialized Medicine system that they didn’t have to vote for.


31 posted on 04/02/2010 2:33:47 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Oceander

REPEAL THE OBAMA TAX


32 posted on 04/02/2010 2:33:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Repeal the whole damned thing - it's not healthcare, it's indentured servitude.

Obamacare is a Disaster, small
33 posted on 04/02/2010 2:34:49 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: RobinMasters
Well you shoot for a FULL REPEAL, McConnel and maybe you will accomplish that.

If not, we will never get get a FULL REPEAL, but winners try their hardest and luck often smiles on them.

But those who don't give it their best will inevitably lose and often lose big.

We will never be rid of these Marxist thugs and their chains will this attitude.

34 posted on 04/02/2010 2:40:26 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I would hate to be their family if this is the way they fight to defend something.

The Party has no soul, only fear.

Their primary goal is to defend themselves to the MSM 24/7.


35 posted on 04/02/2010 2:40:37 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: RobinMasters
Even if the GOP could pick up 113 seats in the House and 16 in the Senate to get to veto-proof majorities, some Republicans would still be too scared to proceed forward with repeal.

Don't wanna do anything to upset the Democrats and the media, do we?
36 posted on 04/02/2010 2:41:08 PM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: RobinMasters
“But this (legislation) is very complex, it’s got a lot of moving parts, many of them have not yet kicked in, won’t kick in for several years. And so the goal would be to repeal it and replace it with something more modest directed at the cost problem, which is what I think most of this whole debate was about in the beginning.

The anger over the issue of CONTROL is more more explosive than the fear over cost.

We can focus on cost later, Mitch.

You can gain many, many votes if you can get these Marxist bloodsuckers off the throats of the American people, Mitch.

37 posted on 04/02/2010 2:43:37 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: what's up

I am the last person to defend any RINOs but I was pissed and read what McConnell said. He was pretty much on target. The Dems put the disaster together like a bomb that is hard to defuse.

The fastest method will be to get the HOUSE and DEFUND it. McConnell said even if we do not get the house and the senate they can still take it apart.

The key is to get the House. McConnell I think is also telling or should make it more clear that America needs to dump the Dems in 2010 then 2012 plus Obama in 2012.

We just have to push them. We also need to try to get the House and Senate then look at criminal investigations.

If we get the House - the House could always ask Obama for his BC. This would help sink the bill.


38 posted on 04/02/2010 2:44:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Sunsong

If the GOP wins the House and Boehner sticks to his promise - they can DEFUND it.


39 posted on 04/02/2010 2:45:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: RobinMasters

I have just now become convinced that Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) MUST GO with the rest of the RINOs. No exceptions!


40 posted on 04/02/2010 2:51:52 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: RobinMasters

So what you stupid Bastard, DO YOU THINK WE ARE ALL MORONS LIKE DEMOCRATS! WE KNOW THAT! It does not mean you dont set the stage by gaining as many seats as possible, then defunding parts of the Bill then in 2012 getting rid of the communist and finishing the job! Why the hell are you Surrendering already ,I am So sick and tired of these old fools and cowards ,GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY ! Let someone with a Pair run the show you freakin wimp !


41 posted on 04/02/2010 3:11:42 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Persevero

Actually, the weakest point of the law...is the financial support. If Medicare isn’t cut the way that was proposed in the bill....if congress doesn’t back up the bill with continual extra funding (which will be obvious in two years)...if the states don’t pass obvious tax increases required to make it work in each state...then this whole thing falls apart.


42 posted on 04/02/2010 3:12:12 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: garageconservative

I guess the McCain Feingold and Heller decisions have given me confidence.


43 posted on 04/02/2010 3:17:59 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: RobinMasters

Even if that’s correct, Mitch, the way you handle it is to go for it. IF obungler is able to block it you hit all the talk shows complaining about what an obstructionist he is, the new Party of NO etc.


44 posted on 04/02/2010 3:24:24 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying Planned Parenthood to murder babies! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: RobinMasters
This defeatist tone from McConnell leads to Republicans deciding to do nothing at all.

Even if they can't get a repeal under Obama, McConnell (and other senior Senators) can still talk up the unconstitutionality of the bill in order to pave the way for the Supreme Court to rule parts of it unconstitutional.

If instead, McConnell falls back onto his "go along to get along" behavior, it will only be the Democrats crying success and Republican silence that will influence the Court.

McConnell needs to constantly beat the bushes about how unconstitutional this bill is (which is why ALL Republicans refused to vote for it), and then make that argument again and again and again.

That, along with the states Attorneys General filing constitutionality lawsuits, will do more to make the people feel that Republicans are still trying to give the Court some cover.

But sadly, McConnell won't do that. He'll play inside baseball behind closed doors and the American people will have no reason to back Republicans.

-PJ

45 posted on 04/02/2010 3:32:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I agree with your opinion of the minority leader, but he is just stating the obvious here as more and more solid, conservative members are publcly admitting there is zero, repeat, zero chance of repeal while O is Prez. You dont have to learn to love it, but you do have to learn to accept the obvious.


46 posted on 04/02/2010 4:04:48 PM PDT by mono
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To: Frantzie
If the GOP wins the House and Boehner sticks to his promise - they can DEFUND it.

Yes, good point :-)

47 posted on 04/02/2010 4:56:48 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Oldpuppymax

You think the Republicans will pick up 113 seats in the House and 26 in the Senate ?? If so, youre the only one.


48 posted on 04/02/2010 5:19:55 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: RobinMasters

So I do not understand-if he thinks a full repeal would be vetoed by Obama why would he think a repeal and replace would fair any better under Obama


49 posted on 04/02/2010 5:54:13 PM PDT by funfan
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To: RobinMasters
He acknowledged there is “probably not” a chance of repealing the full measure while President Barack Obama is in office</p>

True.
The Marxist will veto any repeal bill every time.
Solution? Kick the Kenyan out in 2012. Problem solved.

50 posted on 04/02/2010 6:17:48 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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