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It's Official - America Now Enforces Capital Controls (The Obama Fascists destroy Investing)
Zero Hedge ^ | 3/28/2010 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 04/03/2010 6:00:07 AM PDT by Candor7

It couldn't have happened to a nicer country. On March 18, with very little pomp and circumstance, president Obama passed the most recent stimulus act, the $17.5 billion Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (H.R. 2487), brilliantly goalseeked by the administration's millionaire cronies to abbreviate as HIRE. As it was merely the latest in an endless stream of acts destined to expand the government payroll to infinity, nobody cared about it, or actually read it. Because if anyone had read it, the act would have been known as the Capital Controls Act, as one of the lesser, but infinitely more important provisions on page 27, known as Offset Provisions - Subtitle A—Foreign Account Tax Compliance, institutes just that. In brief, the Provision requires that foreign banks not only withhold 30% of all outgoing capital flows (likely remitting the collection promptly back to the US Treasury) but also disclose the full details of non-exempt account-holders to the US and the IRS. And should this provision be deemed illegal by a given foreign nation's domestic laws (think Switzerland), well the foreign financial institution is required to close the account. It's the law. If you thought you could move your capital to the non-sequestration safety of non-US financial institutions, sorry you lose - the law now says so. Capital Controls are now here and are now fully enforced by the law.

Let's parse through the just passed law, which has been mentioned by exactly zero mainstream media outlets.

Here is the default new state of capital outflows:

(a) IN GENERAL.—The Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting after chapter 3 the following new chapter:

‘‘CHAPTER 4—TAXES TO ENFORCE REPORTING ON CERTAIN FOREIGN ACCOUNTS ‘‘Sec. 1471. Withholdable payments to foreign financial institutions. ‘‘Sec. 1472. Withholdable payments to other foreign entities. ‘‘Sec. 1473. Definitions. ‘‘Sec. 1474. Special rules. ‘‘SEC. 1471. WITHHOLDABLE PAYMENTS TO FOREIGN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—In the case of any withholdable payment to a foreign financial institution which does not meet the requirements of subsection (b), the withholding agent with respect to such payment shall deduct and withhold from such payment a tax equal to 30 percent of the amount of such payment.

Clarifying who this law applies to:

‘‘(C) in the case of any United States account maintained by such institution, to report on an annual basis the information described in subsection (c) with respect to such account, ‘‘(D) to deduct and withhold a tax equal to 30 percent of—

‘‘(i) any passthru payment which is made by such institution to a recalcitrant account holder or another foreign financial institution which does not meet the requirements of this subsection, and

‘‘(ii) in the case of any passthru payment which is made by such institution to a foreign financial institution which has in effect an election under paragraph (3) with respect to such payment, so much of such payment as is allocable to accounts held by recalcitrant account holders or foreign financial institutions which do not meet the requirements of this subsection.

What happens if this brand new law impinges and/or is in blatant contradiction with existing foreign laws?

‘‘(F) in any case in which any foreign law would (but for a waiver described in clause (i)) prevent the reporting of any information referred to in this subsection or subsection (c) with respect to any United States account maintained by such institution—

‘‘(i) to attempt to obtain a valid and effective waiver of such law from each holder of such account, and ‘‘(ii) if a waiver described in clause (i) is not obtained from each such holder within a reasonable period of time, to close such account.

Not only are capital flows now to be overseen and controlled by the government and the IRS, but holders of foreign accounts can kiss any semblance of privacy goodbye:

‘‘(c) INFORMATION REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED ON UNITED STATES ACCOUNTS.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The agreement described in subsection (b) shall require the foreign financial institution to report the following with respect to each United States account maintained by such institution: ‘‘(A) The name, address, and TIN of each account holder which is a specified United States person and, in the case of any account holder which is a United States owned foreign entity, the name, address, and TIN of each substantial United States owner of such entity. ‘‘(B) The account number. ‘‘(C) The account balance or value (determined at such time and in such manner as the Secretary may provide). ‘‘(D) Except to the extent provided by the Secretary, the gross receipts and gross withdrawals or payments from the account (determined for such period and in such manner as the Secretary may provide).

The only exemption to the rule? If you hold the meager sum of $50,000 or less in foreign accounts.

‘‘(B) EXCEPTION FOR CERTAIN ACCOUNTS HELD BY INDIVIDUALS.—Unless the foreign financial institution elects to not have this subparagraph apply, such term shall not include any depository account maintained by such financial institution if— ‘‘(i) each holder of such account is a natural person,and ‘‘(ii) with respect to each holder of such account, the aggregate value of all depository accounts held (in whole or in part) by such holder and maintained by the same financial institution which maintains such account does not exceed $50,000.

And, while we are on the topic of definitions, here is how "financial account" is defined by the US:

‘‘(2) FINANCIAL ACCOUNT.—Except as otherwise provided by the Secretary, the term ‘financial account’ means, with respect to any financial institution— ‘‘(A) any depository account maintained by such financial institution, ‘‘(B) any custodial account maintained by such financial institution, and ‘‘(C) any equity or debt interest in such financial institution (other than interests which are regularly traded on an established securities market). Any equity or debt interest which constitutes a financial account under subparagraph (C) with respect to any financial institution shall be treated for purposes of this section as maintained by such financial institution.

In case you find you do not like to be subject to capital controls, you are now deemed a "Recalcitrant Account Holder."

‘‘(6) RECALCITRANT ACCOUNT HOLDER.—The term ‘recalcitrant account holder’ means any account holder which— ‘‘(A) fails to comply with reasonable requests for the information referred to in subsection (b)(1)(A) or (c)(1)(A), or ‘‘(B) fails to provide a waiver described in subsection (b)(1)(F) upon request.

But guess what - if you are a foreign Central Bank, or if the Secretary determined that you are "a low risk for tax evasion" (unlike the Secretary himself) you still can do whatever the hell you want:

‘‘(f) EXCEPTION FOR CERTAIN PAYMENTS.—Subsection (a) shall not apply to any payment to the extent that the beneficial owner of such payment is— ‘‘(1) any foreign government, any political subdivision of a foreign government, or any wholly owned agency or instrumentality of any one or more of the foregoing, ‘‘(2) any international organization or any wholly owned agency or instrumentality thereof, ‘‘(3) any foreign central bank of issue, or ‘‘(4) any other class of persons identified by the Secretary for purposes of this subsection as posing a low risk of tax evasion.

One thing we are confused about is whether this law is a preamble, or already incorporates, the flow of non-cash assets, such as commodities, and, thus, gold. If an account transfers, via physical or paper delivery, gold from a domestic account to a foreign one, we are not sure if the language deems this a 30% taxable transaction, although preliminary discussions with lawyers indicates this is likely the case.

And so the noose on capital mobility tightens, as very soon the only option US citizens have when it comes to investing their money, will be in government mandated retirement annuities, which will likely be the next step in the capital control escalation, which will culminate with every single free dollar required to be reinvested into the US, likely in the form of purchasing US Treasury emissions such as Treasuries, TIPS and other worthless pieces of paper.

Congratulations bankrupt America - you are now one step closer to a thoroughly non-free market.

Full HIRE Act text: ( at link)


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Buried in the stimulus act, the $17.5 billion Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (H.R. 2487),

This will do the opposite, destroy investment and employment opportunity.

What makes this especially horrid is that the Secretary can issue waivers to the political hacks/banks he selects. This is Chicago thuggism at its worse, enforced by the IRS and Treasury? No wonder the feds are worried about IRS security.

Talks about unconstututional. The freedon of movement of capital is now over. Just like that. Citizens must now decide whether to stay in the USA or follow their capital by reouncing US citizenship and leavingthe country.

Any one now believe we do not have fascists in control of government?

No greater blow could be made to destroy the US economy. This one is a killer.

1 posted on 04/03/2010 6:00:08 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7
Citizens must now decide whether to stay in the USA or follow their capital by reouncing US citizenship and leavingthe country.

That is starting to look like the safer bet.

2 posted on 04/03/2010 6:03:30 AM PDT by riri (III)
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To: Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...

More Draconian Tax Law Ping


3 posted on 04/03/2010 6:03:36 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Candor7

B U M P


4 posted on 04/03/2010 6:07:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Tax-chick

0bama tax law abomination ping. What is your reaction? Is this analysis accurate? Will capital leave the US?


5 posted on 04/03/2010 6:10:28 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Candor7
He screwed the pooch on this one. He's hitting "the fat cats" (code words for anybody who works and saves) in the wallet hard.

Maybe NOW would be a good time to look at how Mr. Dunham was never qualified to be POTUS in the first place so that every bill he signed into law can be rescinded.

6 posted on 04/03/2010 6:11:47 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Candor7

“What makes this especially horrid is that the Secretary can issue waivers to the political hacks/banks he selects.”

Obama’s not a socialist: he’s a crony capitalist! As porkulus and health care reform have vividly illustrated, this administration has been shameless about using taxpayer resources to reward the cronies that brought them and plan to keep them in power. This new bill is reverse pay-to-play. Everyone is conscripted to play and then players are selectively released from their obligations to the degree they are willing to make alternative forms of payments such as campaign contributions or ‘in-kind’ services such as votes delivered or warm bodies to get out Democrat votes etc.


7 posted on 04/03/2010 6:12:07 AM PDT by DrC
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To: DrC

That’s Chicago politics. It’s what you might expect from Obama, Emanuel, and Axelrod.


8 posted on 04/03/2010 6:14:13 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Candor7

REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH.

EVIL.


9 posted on 04/03/2010 6:17:34 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: philman_36
Well, things are really adding uop to the huge boot factor coming the way of Mr. Dunham.

I mean every person who has worked and saved, now is playiing the foreign stock markets because that is where the drowth opportunities are.

The money made comes back to the USA and is spent and invested here.

Now only those with waivers from the Secretary ( who does not pay his taxes BTW) , party hacks, banks , and fascists will be able to invest this way.

Its not much wonder that oil commpanies are all moving their offices out of the USA.

Most of the fat cats saw this coming and have taken care of it.

This hits the private investor with stock market accounts in foreign jurisdictions. It forces him to be a criminal.

I believe the law is unconstitutional and draconian and virtually unenforceable.

10 posted on 04/03/2010 6:18:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Servant of the Cross

It looks pretty accurate to me. This looks like something out of Uganda or Haiti ... control and confiscation of everyone’s overseas capital except for the rulers themselves and their favored cronies. An absolute abomination, as you wisely said.


11 posted on 04/03/2010 6:18:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Espiritu Santo, Espiritu Santo, renueva la faz de la tierra!)
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To: Candor7

What is one of the basics of all dictatorships, oppressive governments, etc.?

The prohibition of the movement of assets.


12 posted on 04/03/2010 6:18:44 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Candor7
Just like that. Citizens must now decide whether to stay in the USA or follow their capital by reouncing US citizenship and leavingthe country.
Good riddance. We're better off without these tax frauds, cheats and swindlers anyway.
13 posted on 04/03/2010 6:20:49 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Candor7
And should this provision be deemed illegal by a given foreign nation's domestic laws (think Switzerland), well the foreign financial institution is required to close the account.

How can they 'require' a foreign financial institution to close an account? (I know...I know...humor me)

14 posted on 04/03/2010 6:26:22 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Candor7
...renouncing US citizenship and leaving the country.

Oh, come now, boys and girls. Yeah, I also get moments like this, depressed beyond reason as I watch my country devolve into a tyrannical thugocracy. But let's not forget one thing:

This is OUR country, it belongs to its people, NOT the temporary resident of the White House and his unelected Czars. They're here to serve US, not the other way around.

Yeah, they think they're holding all of the cards right now, with unconstitutional legislation rammed down our collective throat. But they forget a few things...

We outnumber them. In spades.

We're motivated. Highly motivated.

We're organizing. On a national level, not just in the "community".

We're dedicated to protect and preserve the Constitution. More so than those who are sworn into public office, and them immediately forget that sacred oath.

We've read Saul Alinsky. We're on to their tricks. And we can use them just as well.

We have faith. Unlike those who find ethics, morals, and the concept of right and wrong akin to Kryptonite, we're rock solid in our belief structure which will carry us through.

So before you go looking for a better country, don't forget that it's our job to first protect this one. And if it's broken, it's up to us to fix it.

November 10th is coming. Don't get impatient.

15 posted on 04/03/2010 6:29:15 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: Candor7

Does this mean that the money in my Canadian savings account, which was taxed by the IRS when I earned it, is now subject to an additional 30% tax when I withdraw funds?


16 posted on 04/03/2010 6:33:55 AM PDT by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: Willie Green

No we are not. A lot of money is made and comes into the USA in this way.

Or are you just being sarcastic?

Ifthe money can;t leave the USA, ot won;t cpme here in the forst place, whinch, in case you have not noticed, is what is keeping the USD strong. People can come here from abriad, shelter their currency and the move it back.

The screws that royally.


17 posted on 04/03/2010 6:35:04 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: tsmith130
How can they 'require' a foreign financial institution to close an account? (I know...I know...humor me) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

By tax treaty. We have reciprocal enforcement treaties with most nations except a very few.

18 posted on 04/03/2010 6:36:37 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Candor7

bump


19 posted on 04/03/2010 6:37:55 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Tigerized
Agreed. But the risks just got a lot higher if we do not succeed in taking our nation back.

The ante is now way up.

20 posted on 04/03/2010 6:38:46 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Tigerized
But they forget a few things...

... We're armed to the teeth ;-)

21 posted on 04/03/2010 6:43:10 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: Chuckster

“Does this mean that the money in my Canadian savings account, which was taxed by the IRS when I earned it, is now subject to an additional 30% tax when I withdraw funds?”

Probably not. Canada does not have banking privacy laws. Although US citizens with funds out of the country are required to report if the total is over $10k, this is an attempt to make foreign banks report that information as well. It’s really about control and will affect middle class expats as well as the jet-setters.


22 posted on 04/03/2010 6:43:10 AM PDT by spaced
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To: Candor7

The mattress is sounding like the better alternative for my money every day.
November can’t come too soon!


23 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:03 AM PDT by LUV W (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!)
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To: Tigerized

Yep, that’s what I say, hold your ground! The truth will bear out, along with a few more folks finding out how miserable Socialism is. We’re the ones best prepared and informed.


24 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:18 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Chuckster

It appears as if it is just on the earnings of that money.


25 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:19 AM PDT by Bruinator (God is Great.... Beer is good.... people are?)
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To: Candor7
By tax treaty. We have reciprocal enforcement treaties with most nations except a very few.

Ah...thanks. I googled 'Tax Treaties' and the first hit is an IRS page that lists of all the countries.

26 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:38 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Chuckster

Yep!

You got it.

Its called “witholding”


27 posted on 04/03/2010 6:46:43 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Candor7

That source link is excellent, thanks for posting the link.


28 posted on 04/03/2010 6:58:11 AM PDT by riri (III)
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To: Tigerized
Good summary! I like your optimism. We must defeat tyranny here in the U.S.A.. We must continue to organize, fight hard and be patient.

The Progressive/socialists took a hundred years to get to where they are now. We are on to them now and we can turn back to our Constitution in a short time. It can be done quickly first by electing Constitutional conservatives to federal and state Congresses and then by appointing judges and Justices to the Courts who will interpret the Constitution and not legislate from the bench.
29 posted on 04/03/2010 6:58:36 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: Chuckster

I doubt it but they will hold onto your cash if you attempt to move it until they’re sure its not subject to further taxes.
What i get out of this is the daily flow of American capital held by individuals will,on a daily basis,be subject to 30% withholding which may or may not be kept by the govt depending on its tax liability if any. The results are twofold (though with many many ramifications).
First,the govt will show way more cash on their books thus hiding their own poor finances. It will cycle through on a daily basis and we’re probably talking significant funds.
Second they will be discouraging Americans from having funds in foreign banks which is tantamount to a trade war. If Americans pull their cash from these banks then those banks will see their tier one or equivalent measure fall.
How would our government react if measure like these were enacted overseas? If the Saudis decided on special taxes for holdings in foreign countries so all those princes started dumping American stocks? This feels extremely isolationist to me.


30 posted on 04/03/2010 7:05:12 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: old curmudgeon; All

Obama's Redistribution of Wealth Checklist:

✔ Get Swiss to divulge secret bank accounts in 2009
✔ Bring back Estate Tax to all Americans in 2011
✔ Pass ObamaCare to Socialize the Health Industry in 2014
Prohibit the of movement of American assets in 2014
__ Pass Cap & Trade (via Congress or Executive Order)
__ Pass Amnesty ...

31 posted on 04/03/2010 7:05:41 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Candor7

Peter Schiff has been warning about this stuff for years. Damn sad. But even more sad is that you can bet the Republicans won’t do anything about it when they get in. Below is Peter’s latest vlog. Tell me it’s not scary that people are leaving the U.S. to FIND opportunity!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR8CLPUS5Y0


32 posted on 04/03/2010 7:06:17 AM PDT by dcgst4
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To: Candor7

Who would ever have thought that tyranny would be implemented with such high-sounding, super-educated, legalistic language.


33 posted on 04/03/2010 7:18:04 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: philman_36

The Secretary can issue waivers to certain favored fatcats. The government chooses the winners from now on.

Fascism.


34 posted on 04/03/2010 7:22:33 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Tigerized

Thanks for the pep talk


35 posted on 04/03/2010 7:25:53 AM PDT by GILTN1stborn
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To: old curmudgeon
The prohibition of the movement of assets.

Next comes prohibition of movement through cap and tax.

36 posted on 04/03/2010 7:27:26 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Candor7; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

37 posted on 04/03/2010 7:27:41 AM PDT by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: orinoco
Good summary! I like your optimism.

Thanks. Optimism, nothing! We simply don't have a choice! Are we gonna turn our country over to a bunch of leftists without a whimper? And where will the freedom seeking people of the world go in search of liberty, if America fails?

Americans have never stood still for being bullied and pushed around. By anyone. Hopefully, there's still a few of us left who appreciate our birthright of liberty, bought and paid for with the blood and lives of our forefathers.

We owe it to them, and future generations, to preserve it for ourselves and our heirs. Anything less is a sure path to slavery, as many of the oppressed in others countries have discovered.

38 posted on 04/03/2010 7:29:57 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: wiggen
The results are twofold (though with many many ramifications). First,the govt will show way more cash on their books thus hiding their own poor finances. It will cycle through on a daily basis and we’re probably talking significant funds.

Exactly. There is absolutely nothing different about this compared to what Enron did. Cooking the books to make it look better to prop up bond sales. After these taxed kick in look for them to shout, "Look the deficit is going down." without any explanation. Or, at least, they will try to hide what they are doing. It's designed to show fiscal improvement by November.

These people are criminals in every sense of the word.

39 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:13 AM PDT by raybbr (I hate B(ig) H(ead) Obama)
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To: Tigerized

Capital controls always work in disfavor of the banana republic who imposes them. Capital stays away. There are still many ways to secret money overseas. Risky, but identifying the beneficial owner of many assets is difficult. Once in place, they effectively block the flow of capital into the country.


40 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:44 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: dcgst4

Great link! Thanks for posting this...


41 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:48 AM PDT by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: Oldexpat
Capital stays away

Once that happens, it is all over.

42 posted on 04/03/2010 7:37:04 AM PDT by riri (III)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe


Who would ever have thought that tyranny would be implemented with
such high-sounding, super-educated, legalistic language.

Just confirms the old addage:
“ “An idea so bankrupt that only an intellectual would consider it.” “

And Obama supporters accept it on faith.
Seeing how Obama is the head of their church.


43 posted on 04/03/2010 7:38:37 AM PDT by VOA
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bookmark


44 posted on 04/03/2010 7:42:50 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Who would ever have thought that tyranny would be implemented with such high-sounding, super-educated, legalistic language.

It's the only way they can succeed. They've been dumbing down schools for several generations now, our publicly educated kids know nothing about American exceptionalism or the massive downside of Communism. Look who voted for BHO. Look who's wearing all of those "Che" T-shirts as fashion statements.

The bastards think we're ripe for the picking. They underestimate those of us who remember and respect our American heritage.

45 posted on 04/03/2010 7:44:24 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: wiggen

This law may impact foreign investing in this country. An important tenet of foreign investing is the ability to move capital when required. Foreign individuals and corporations will not invest if they cannot access capital when necessary. The law allows exceptions so political connections will matter, another negative aspect of crony capitalism. I also think that foreign governments may retaliate by withholding US investor money. In this bill and other proposed bills and existing legislation, I see a potential for an ugly trade war.


46 posted on 04/03/2010 7:47:49 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Candor7
I told folks they would do this. An Economic Berlin Wall goin up. Next thing you know, it will be exit visas necessary for Americans making over a certain amount of annual salary, or in certain professions such as doctors and nurses and firefighters and the like. This happens just before they start ordering some people into the camps, and preventing Americans from leaving the United States itself.
47 posted on 04/03/2010 7:48:18 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The FASCIST knows his window of opportunity is now only 7 months. Watch him like a hawk.)
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To: Willie Green
Read the law.

Or did you become a Communist?

48 posted on 04/03/2010 7:51:03 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The FASCIST knows his window of opportunity is now only 7 months. Watch him like a hawk.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I wrote a few months ago that we were, historically speaking, reaching a time when the next logical step was violence against those who resist. Things have picked up considerable steam since I wrote that. I have zero doubt it is coming.


49 posted on 04/03/2010 7:51:41 AM PDT by riri (III)
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To: Candor7

Every day something evil pops out of BO. He wants to control every aspect of our lives.

When will it stop????


50 posted on 04/03/2010 7:51:53 AM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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