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Britain Will No Longer Grovel To The U.S.
Forbes ^ | 4/1/2010 | Quentin Letts

Posted on 04/03/2010 6:23:01 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

New report shows England's growing disillusionment with its once greatest ally.

British parliamentarians have finally realized that the "special relationship" between London and Washington no longer exists--if it ever did. The House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee has published an unexpectedly lively report urging British diplomats and ministers to be "less deferential" to the U.S.

No more groveling, then. Not that it will stop Prime Minister Gordon Brown from being starry-eyed in the presence of President Obama when he visits the U.S. in a few days' time.

The committee, whose members are about to disband before the general election campaign, is hardly staffed by anti-American hotheads and student rabble-rousers. It is chaired by a stodgy Labour backbencher named Mike Gapes, an Establishment man who is pro-Israel and has never done anything naughty or daring in his political life. It is possible to cast one's eyes on Gapes and feel great, rolling waves of ennui, simply by dint of his predictability. For old Gapes to put his name to a report questioning out biggest diplomatic and military alliance is quite something.

Gapes' senior committee members include Sir Menzies Campbell, who once led Britain's third party, the Liberal Democrats, and was long opposed to the Iraq invasion. Sir Menzies, however, is no Yanqui-bashing Hugo Chávez. His skepticism about the U.S. is put with courtly Caledonian politeness, qualifying phrases and regretful tweaking of the neck. His doubts about the State Department are more than balanced by a Thatcherite member of the committee, Heathcoat-Amory, a keen opponent of the mushrooming bureaucracy of the unelected European Commission. "Eurosceptics" are often the most enthusiastic supporters of the transatlantic alliance because they sense that a strong U.K.-U.S. bond reduces the possibility of us being glurped into a United States of Europe.

In recent months, however, the so-called

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1 posted on 04/03/2010 6:23:01 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Everyone knows Britain grovels to Brussels and the E.U., silly.


2 posted on 04/03/2010 6:24:38 PM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: bruinbirdman

No groveling!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ42IMu7HIQ


3 posted on 04/03/2010 6:24:57 PM PDT by tumblindice (michelle, my hottentot venus belle)
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To: bruinbirdman

Too bad. I was rather enjoying it.

It’s another bad thing that Obama has done.


4 posted on 04/03/2010 6:27:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bruinbirdman

But wasn’t Obama supposed to IMPROVE our relationships with foreign nations?


5 posted on 04/03/2010 6:30:41 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: unspun

“Gapes.....He is very pro-European once declaring that he would prefer closer ties rather than Britain becoming an amusement park for American and Japanese tourists.”

Took me 30 seconds to find that.

Forbes is near worthless. The Pro-EU people in Britain have always looked to undermine the relationship. This is nothing new.

It is malpractice Forbes, which I usually respect, did not look to the EU angle.


6 posted on 04/03/2010 6:30:56 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: bruinbirdman

Well, GB if you want Obama gone look into your records to expose Obama. I’m sure you got something.


7 posted on 04/03/2010 6:31:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: bruinbirdman

Count on the MSM to not cover this.

Obama has wrecked an important relationship with our strongest ally. It would have taken so little to not do this.

He is a disaster.


8 posted on 04/03/2010 6:32:04 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Barack Hussein Obama — alienating all our allies and attempting to appease all our enemies.


9 posted on 04/03/2010 6:32:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Red Steel

Wasn’t Kenya former British protectorate?


10 posted on 04/03/2010 6:34:06 PM PDT by traumer
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To: Signalman

I suspect that Obama has a end in mind when he PO’s the Brits. Probably he wants to make sure the Brits won’t come to our aid when the Mexicans invade us. Come to think of it, it seems to be working.


11 posted on 04/03/2010 6:35:09 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: bruinbirdman

Not groveling to Pres_ent Obama is a good start. Now stop groveling to your own Mohammedans.


12 posted on 04/03/2010 6:35:50 PM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: traumer

Will there be an official photo with Obama and Brown ?


13 posted on 04/03/2010 6:37:08 PM PDT by maine yankee
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To: Signalman
But wasn’t Obama supposed to IMPROVE our relationships with foreign nations?

Long-standing allies don't count. (It's the changey, remaking America thingy.)

14 posted on 04/03/2010 6:38:15 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: bruinbirdman

It’s mutual. We can part as friends.


15 posted on 04/03/2010 6:38:35 PM PDT by quantim
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To: Mr. Mojo
Barack Hussein Obama — alienating all our allies and attempting to appease all our enemies

I'm sure there are a lot of people in countries like G.B., Israel and Honduras who can't wait for the next POTUS to take office, hoping that relations with the US will improve.

We, on the other hand, can't wait for the next POTUS, but we will be stuck with trying to undo all the domestic disasters he is creating.
16 posted on 04/03/2010 6:39:31 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not diggin' this tyranny thing.)
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To: bruinbirdman
British parliamentarians have finally realized that the "special relationship" between London and Washington no longer exists--if it ever did.

Oh, it did exist. It really did at one time...


17 posted on 04/03/2010 6:42:08 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: bruinbirdman

They are busy groveling to Islam at the moment!


18 posted on 04/03/2010 6:42:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT,NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: bruinbirdman

Britain groveled to us?

Damn, I musta missed out on some world-class groveling!


19 posted on 04/03/2010 6:43:17 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: bruinbirdman
I don't know that they ever "groveled" but I don't blame for showing a bit of a chill.
20 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:38 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Clock King

Wonderful photo!
Saving. Thank you.


21 posted on 04/03/2010 6:44:59 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: Clock King
I'll raise you a queen.


22 posted on 04/03/2010 6:45:12 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: BradyLS

LOL!!! That was my first thoughts, too, BradyLS!


23 posted on 04/03/2010 6:47:23 PM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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To: Mr. Mojo

Reagan and Queen Elizabeth II?


24 posted on 04/03/2010 6:48:28 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: bruinbirdman
the "special relationship" between London and Washington no longer exists--if it ever did.

If it ever did?

Sounds like they doubted the relationship before Obama, which means maybe these aren't the pro-American Brits we're looking for.

Or they just can't' bring themselves to blame the O when they had such high hopes for the guy. When your messiah stabs you in the back, who do you blame?

They had an American president who was good for his word, and now they have one who has his own agenda and won't hesitate to sell you out to get it... and in the case of the Brits, he'll positively enjoy selling you out.

He isn't really an American president, after all. He is masquerading as an American president, but he has his own set of loyalties that he has never declared openly but which we are starting to see. He is the visible front man of a larger conspiracy. He has a special relationship, but it isn't with the Brits and it isn't with us either.

25 posted on 04/03/2010 6:48:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: Ole Okie

You got it.


26 posted on 04/03/2010 6:49:57 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Signalman
But wasn’t Obama supposed to IMPROVE our relationships with foreign nations?

In this case the improvement will be with Argentina.

27 posted on 04/03/2010 6:50:33 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: bruinbirdman

For almost a decade I experienced anti-Americanism in the UK. I’ve always wondered why THEY didn’t break off relations with the US.


28 posted on 04/03/2010 6:57:38 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: traumer
Kenya was not a protectorate but a flat out colony, jointly administered with Tanganyika, as any stamp collector will know. Boyobama has never gotten over crap that happened before he was even around.
29 posted on 04/03/2010 6:59:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bruinbirdman

Forbes is part of the problem. They employ one of Obama’s closest advisors, a money manager. Forbes helped make him rich and he was the seed money for Obama’s campaign. He is very close to Obama. I cancelled Forbes and will never subscribe again.


30 posted on 04/03/2010 7:00:45 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Ole Okie
Reagan and Queen Elizabeth II?

That's British PM Margaret Thatcher with Reagan.

31 posted on 04/03/2010 7:01:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: I still care

It does not really matter any more. The left and Labour Party Islamified the UK - it is over. The UK means very little going forward. Sold out by Blair and their newsmedia including Murdoch. The only good guys are the Barclays (Telegrapha & Daily Mail).

Obama is using the same playbook here taht was used in the UK.


32 posted on 04/03/2010 7:03:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Brilliant
Obama has deliberately destroyed the "special relationship" that began in earnest before our entry into WWII. Likewise he is deliberately deconstructing our relationship with Israel. The Alien Usurper believes he will harvest favor from the turd world savages he identifies with, by dissing whites in general, anglophones, europeans and Jews especially.
33 posted on 04/03/2010 7:04:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Clock King
Ronnie and Maggie embodied the special relationship, but it began when Britain stood alone against the Nazi War Machine. America backed them up when there was no one else. Lefty brits like to forget about that unpleasantness.

Just because there was such a relationship, it's demolition is all the more saddening.

34 posted on 04/03/2010 7:08:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bruinbirdman

That’s right! Your now groveling to your islamic masters.


35 posted on 04/03/2010 7:11:43 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Those pix are great. I was recalling Bush throwing baseballs, carrier landings and these great Reagan shots but we have this guy that wobbles around on a flat-tire bicycle with a hitch still attached, he can’t do anything manly at all.


36 posted on 04/03/2010 7:13:01 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: Signalman
But wasn’t Obama supposed to IMPROVE our relationships with foreign nations?

Just the ones that already hated us.

37 posted on 04/03/2010 7:17:31 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Windflier

He’s referring to post #22.

That’s the Queen, not Maggie.


38 posted on 04/03/2010 7:18:25 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Windflier; Ole Okie

Thatcher is with Reagan in #17. In #22, it’s Queen Elizabeth II — or, as we know her here in Canada: Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.


39 posted on 04/03/2010 7:19:00 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: brushcop
we have this guy that wobbles around on a flat-tire bicycle with a hitch still attached, he can’t do anything manly at all.


40 posted on 04/03/2010 7:19:33 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Clock King
Great photos and memories.

Those really were the days!

41 posted on 04/03/2010 7:21:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Thatcher is with Reagan in #17. In #22, it’s Queen Elizabeth II

Pardon me. My browser didn't open the picture of Reagan with Queen Elizabeth. I only saw the one of him with Maggie Thatcher, and didn't notice that the poster was referring to the other pic.

42 posted on 04/03/2010 7:21:59 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ole Okie

My mistake, Okie. I thought you were referring to the other picture of Reagan. The one with him and the Queen didn’t open for me the first time. I see it now.


43 posted on 04/03/2010 7:23:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Obama is meeting his objectives in severing our relationships with our G7 allies, business partners, friends and western civilization.

Its all part of dhiminishing and marginalizing , the US of A.By taking down the leader of the “free” industrialized western world he takes down the west.

Nefarious just nefarious/


44 posted on 04/03/2010 7:30:25 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: bruinbirdman
Like 1980-81, God will restore America.

In a few years the Brits can kiss our feet and plead for forgiveness if they want to be friends.
Australia is Americas only true friend now.

45 posted on 04/03/2010 7:32:55 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Obama will sink as fast as he rose. Idolatry will not succeed. Be patient, folks...)
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To: Brilliant

*Probably he wants to make sure the Brits won’t come to our aid when the Mexicans invade us. Come to think of it, it seems to be working.*

The British haven’t been able to do jack sh*t since 1917—and no, the Falklands doesn’t count. It’s been a steady retreat since then. They managed to completely fritter away the largest empire ever seen on this Earth in less than 30 years after the death of Victoria.

How you think they’d ever be able to ‘help’ us is beyond comprehension—they can’t even keep their sailors from being taken hostage by Iran. If anything, we’ll have to pull their nuts out of the fire once again when Islam tries to convert everyone in the UK by sword.


46 posted on 04/03/2010 7:33:18 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: bruinbirdman

Great photo. God, I miss him. May God continue to bless this country.


47 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:09 PM PDT by jeffDavis1861
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To: bruinbirdman

Surely MI5 has the goods on the red diaper doper boy muslim.


48 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:21 PM PDT by Bankroller
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To: bruinbirdman

I’m an American, but I think I can understand the Brit’s attitude towards us. Look at the outcome of WW2. The war ended with Britain bombed and bankrupt. Except for Pearl Harbor, the US came through it unscathed and quite a bit richer.

Britain was threatened being annihilated by Hitler, yet Britain stood courageously alone against Hitler. Only Germany declaring war against the US could bring the US over to help Britain. Some great friend of Britain those Americans, eh? At least in their eyes. Just guessing, but I suspect these things might have something to do with it.


49 posted on 04/03/2010 7:38:31 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: bruinbirdman

A few liberal British politicans can no more demolish the special relationship between the U.S. and the U.K. by announcing it’s over, than can Obama demolish the special relationship between the U.S. and Israel.

In three years, Obama will be history and we will have a conservative president. Let’s hope U.K. elects some conservatives too. And we’ll see that friendship as strong as ever.


50 posted on 04/03/2010 7:38:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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