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To: Scanian
I'd love to know...

A. How CO2 can be "absorbed" by water
B. How CO2 can be an acid

3 posted on 04/04/2010 4:25:07 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: 6SJ7

They would like to know too. This isnt about green energy, it’s about control.

Everything Obama has done is about control.


6 posted on 04/04/2010 4:29:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 6SJ7
Do you really expect them to apply Science????

I would love to know how what we exhale can be a pollutant. Plants have to inhale it in order to exhale the oxygen that we need to live.

7 posted on 04/04/2010 4:32:52 AM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second - GO SARAHCUDA!!!!)
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To: 6SJ7
To 3 - Good questions.
Only wish we were at a 'town hall' with Obama and you had asked him. His response would be 'noteworthy'.
9 posted on 04/04/2010 4:37:14 AM PDT by jla (Obama & Co. vs. Jefferson & Madison - my money's on the latter)
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To: 6SJ7
CO2 + H2O => H2CO3

Carbon dioxide plus water produce carbonic acid. Let me buy you a soda and tell you about the dangers of carbonic acid...

10 posted on 04/04/2010 4:39:53 AM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: 6SJ7
Surface wave action mixes air with the water.

Wikipedia can be your friend:

"When CO2 dissolves, it reacts with water to form a balance of ionic and non-ionic chemical species: dissolved free carbon dioxide (CO2(aq)), carbonic acid (H2CO3), bicarbonate (HCO−3) and carbonate (CO2−3). The ratio of these species depends on factors such as seawater temperature and alkalinity.

"Dissolving CO2 in seawater increases the hydrogen ion (H+) concentration in the ocean, and thus decreases ocean pH."

11 posted on 04/04/2010 4:40:45 AM PDT by Procyon (An well-armed society is a polite society.)
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To: 6SJ7
H2O+CO2-—>H2CO3

H2CO3 is acidic. (simplified reaction)

The problem comes when you stop at this point. Animal life in the ocean use this to make shells and coverings (clams, coral etc). This removes the H2CO3 and keeps the acid in balance. Like global warming, the computer models on CO2 in the ocean do not take the complex natural cycles in account. I think this is on purpose.

12 posted on 04/04/2010 4:41:16 AM PDT by Kent1957
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To: 6SJ7
CO2+H2O = H2CO3.

Carbon dioxide plus water yields carbonic acid.

15 posted on 04/04/2010 4:46:39 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Let tyrants shake their iron rod, and slavery clank her galling chains)
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To: 6SJ7

CO2 is an acid anhyride and readily binds with water to form carbonic acid which is also very weak bordering on a pH of neutral.


18 posted on 04/04/2010 5:04:59 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: 6SJ7
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A. How CO2 can be “absorbed” by water
B. How CO2 can be an acid
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This is called mass transfer whereby a gas dissolves in a liquid (example water). Concentration differences drive the rate of the mass transfer.

CO2 in water is in equilibrium with carbonic acid, a weak acid. CO2 has long been used to adjust pH in certain water treatment applications with low buffering.

It takes a whopping large concentration of gas phase CO2 in water to first drive the CO2 into solution before the equilibrium with carbonic acid can even come into play. This is confounded by carbonate and bicarbonate that are intermediate between CO2 and carbonic acid. Sea water is buffered pretty good to counter the impact of this weak acid on reducing pH.

Now that I think of on this some more, I think it is more likely that this is a “Chicken Little” approach to hammering on global warming crap from another direction.

20 posted on 04/04/2010 5:06:03 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: 6SJ7

Take a course in geology. There is a chemistry which produced the “limestone” that we use today for the basis of cement in construction. And what we use happened millions upon millions of years ago. Its a long slo process which has been going on as a part of a healthy earth.

Now with the heightened human activities, there is severe co2 loading going on , acidifying the oceans. It is a very real problem and needs to be dealt with. The sooner the world is off of oil, the better....in many ways. It would certainly shut those mid east yaps and return them to the stone age!

As a comparison, we could load you up with toxins, (heck! use alcohol!) impair your liver or kidneys and see how long you function. Small amounts you can deal with , with time.


21 posted on 04/04/2010 5:07:24 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: 6SJ7
I'd love to know...

A. How CO2 can be "absorbed" by water B. How CO2 can be an acid

Water can absorb CO2.That's exactly what happens when they make carbonated beverages. The bubbles that come from the drink and bubbles of CO2 being released.

While the CO2 is dissolved in the water it becomes a weak carbonic acid solution.

But none of this is happening to the degree they claim it is and the and while in the ocean, the CO2 becomes part of carbonates (seashells, etc.) and makes life possible for seaweed and phytoplankton, both of which would cease to exist without the CO2.

33 posted on 04/04/2010 6:29:20 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: 6SJ7

The reaction is:
CO2 (carbon dioxide) + H2O (water) = H2CO3 (carbonic acid)

This is one of the more common chemical reactions in nature. It is needed for life itself.
As soon as H2CO3 is available, plants and algae convert it to O2, sugars and other needed biological organic compounds (amino acids, proteins, etc.)


40 posted on 04/04/2010 8:01:52 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - Thomas Jefferson)
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