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Is Tea Partyers’ hate really that strong?
Las Vegas Sun ^ | April 4, 2010 | By Brian Greenspun

Posted on 04/04/2010 6:18:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Easter’s message is a simple one. It is about love and redemption. I didn’t see much love of fellow men in Searchlight last week. I heard a lot of hate, though. Do the folks who have claimed the Tea Party as their express ride to better government really believe they are more patriotic than the thousands of people who show up every day to work for the government — local, state and national — on their behalf?

There are people everywhere who don’t carry their own weight. Those aside, does anyone really believe the people who have been attracted to public service — as opposed to the rest of us who just don’t have the desire, the time or the inclination to work for the benefit of others — are less American than the folks who braved the winds and Porta Potties in Searchlight?

I don’t see the protesters and naysayers taking oaths of office, government salaries and citizen ridicule to work on behalf of their fellow citizens. All I hear are anger-laden complaints.

Easter brings with it a message of love, redemption and hope. I am not asking people to believe me when I say that most elected officials and government workers are good and decent people who work hard and try to do what is right.

On this Easter, ask yourselves, “What would Jesus do? How would Jesus act? Who would Jesus blame?”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: failure; obamanomics; reichstaggers; sanctimony; socialism; teaparty
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Brian Greenspun is President and Editor of the Las Vegas Sun. He's also delusional.
1 posted on 04/04/2010 6:18:10 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“... the thousands of people who show up every day to work for the government — local, state and national — on their behalf?”

No, we believe they show up to go through the motions of working at a job where they are overpaid and never accountable.


2 posted on 04/04/2010 6:21:50 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It has nothing to do with hate and everything to do with the direction the Democrats are taking the country.

We have a Constitution and prefer our elected officials follow it.

3 posted on 04/04/2010 6:22:01 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...really believe they are more patriotic than the thousands of people who show up every day to work for the government ...

That's as far as I got before it was a choice between a trip to the bark bucket or a messy keyboard...

4 posted on 04/04/2010 6:22:07 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Not sure which planet he's on.

First off only a few specially selected people working for the government get to handle the complaints.

I had such a job for a good long while. My conclusion is that people tell lies, they try to cheat, and an awful lot more than you think they'd like a government subsidy.

Did it bother me?

OF COURSE NOT! Why do you imagine I'm posting on FR? Nothing bothers me.

Now, for the rest of that strange man's tale of woe, since so few government employees come into contact with the public on a direct basis, maybe there are some surveys out there that tell us what's going on ~ and, lo and behold, there are.

THEY (meaning the public) love their letter carriers. At the same time THEY (meaning the same public) hate their window clerks!

And you guys all thought you were transparent eh! Uncle Sam's got your number.

5 posted on 04/04/2010 6:24:06 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Let's Roll

Typical left wing rubbish. No specific criticism just a personal attack. Another brain dead lefty.


6 posted on 04/04/2010 6:25:06 AM PDT by Mr. Right Now
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes to the question of patriotism.


7 posted on 04/04/2010 6:26:25 AM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Google him. His head is so far up Harry Reid’s butt he can see what Harry is about to eat.


8 posted on 04/04/2010 6:28:16 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Delusional??? You’re really into that Easter forgiving spirit, aren’t you? ;-) In order to maintain that spirit, I will not pile on but will point out that the patriots are not so much mad at certain politicians (cough...cough...Reid) as they are mad at what is being done to their country and the Constitution. Perhaps Mr. Greenspun might refer to that oath and see that it promises fidelity to the Constitution — that is the source of the anger.


9 posted on 04/04/2010 6:28:26 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
By Brian Greenspun

His father, Hank, smeared Joe McCarthy as a homosexual:

Joe McCarthy is a bachelor of 43 years... He seldom dates girls and if he does he laughingly describes it as window dressing. It is common talk among homosexuals in Milwaukee who rendezvous in the White Horse Inn that Senator Joe McCarthy has often engaged in homosexual activities.

The Young Republicans held a state convention in Wausua, Wis., at which Sen. McCarthy was an honored guest. During the convention, McCarthy spent the night with William McMahon, formerly an official of the Milwaukee County Young Republicans, in a Eausua hotel room, at which time, McCarthy and McMahon engaged in illicit acts with each other.

McCarthy was very popular in Las Vegas in 1952. There were parades for him. Hank Greenspun was mobbed up and attempting to protect the criminals in the Communist Party USA (behind the idealistic curtain the party was a criminal organization with a maze of lucrative businesses).
10 posted on 04/04/2010 6:28:33 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Easter’s message is a simple one. It is about love and redemption. I didn’t see much love of fellow men in Searchlight last week. I heard a lot of hate, though. Do the folks who have claimed the Tea Party as their express ride to better government really believe they are more patriotic than the thousands of people who show up every day to work for the government — local, state and national — on their behalf?”

What a load of crap. “So those of you who believe in freedom and liberty think you’re more patriotic than a bunch of worthless Government bureaucrats...?” Hmm. Let me think about that one...

Um. Yes, I do.

Just another liberal ploy to shut up ANY opposing viewpoint.. try and make us feel guilty for even HAVING such “mean” opinions of people who want to destroy both our society and the country that we live in. Oooh!I don’t KNOW how I can stand the guilt!

[insert roll of eyes here]


11 posted on 04/04/2010 6:29:54 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Someone needs to tell Mr. Greenspun that those Tea Partiers ARE the ones who show up to work every day.


12 posted on 04/04/2010 6:32:16 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t know what obligation we have to be “nice” at a communist takeover of America.

I get disgusted when lefties try to invoke the “spirit of religion” to quell dissent. Most of the their time is spent getting rid of religion.


13 posted on 04/04/2010 6:33:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A journalist telling us WWJD?

Nice try, commie!


14 posted on 04/04/2010 6:34:36 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Let's Roll

“No, we believe they show up to go through the motions of working at a job where they are overpaid and never accountable.”

So true. I have never seen so many listless and semi-functional “workers” in my life. To say they “go through the motions” is to suggest they exercise a greater effort than they actually do. I have seen rocks with more animation.


15 posted on 04/04/2010 6:39:30 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Back from the barf bucket,

I’ll add what someone was saying the other day: there’s more people riding on the wagon now than there are people pulling it, and the wheels are coming off. It’s not a matter of hate, unless the one’s doing the riding are doing the hating...


16 posted on 04/04/2010 6:40:00 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This buffoon has obviously never attended a Tea Party. I have never met a more congenial group than those who attend Tea Parties. certainly they shout “Kill the Bill” What would he have them do?

Certainly people are angered over being screwed ove by the Congress they elected. We have been betrayed, that always will bring about anger, but Tea partiers leave at the end of the day, they go home, they leave the place they demonstrated clean ,and they hold their anger. Hopefully this anger will arise on November 2nd and show these politicians the road.


17 posted on 04/04/2010 6:41:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Poor Brian, he probably believes in the tooth fairy too.


18 posted on 04/04/2010 6:44:12 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He is also a scumbag and a very very close friend of Bills.
Commie to the core


19 posted on 04/04/2010 6:46:03 AM PDT by winodog (We've got more people voting for a living than we do working for a living.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tea Partiers: It is their love for America, what she stands for and fierce opposition to those hypocrites who would bring her down, just as Jesus fought fiercely against the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and wished them that the worst would come to them in their lives.
[ Woes-= “
1 : a condition of deep suffering from misfortune, affliction, or grief 2 : ruinous trouble : calamity, affliction” -www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woe

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Matt 7:15-23
15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing,
but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Matthew 23:1-7, 13-33 (NIV)

Seven Woes
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!...
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!..
“Woe to you, blind guides!...
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!...
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!...
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!...
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!...
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?...

Jesus was no wimpy wimpy kowtowing bowing-down pussycat liar as Obummer.


20 posted on 04/04/2010 6:46:07 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t get it and I never will
If you have a commie background, you could be Dr. Phil
Just because you get all wee wee’d up on the internet
Does not mean you have to hate and have to fret.
No matter what is true, I am more enlightened than you
And that is why I can ask you “What would Jesus do?”


21 posted on 04/04/2010 6:48:37 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Patriots are on the move!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is a joke, right?

If not, I seem to remember Christ throwing the money changers out of the temple. Money changer/politican not much difference if you ask me.

I’ll render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser’s, but I’ll use my vote too.


22 posted on 04/04/2010 6:49:10 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: winodog
This stupid communist sticks his nose into the high and mighty air and lectures teat partiers from a Bible he doesn't even believe in. I can give him a verse right back at his little red pointed head.

“Woe unto thee who call evil good and good evil.”

23 posted on 04/04/2010 6:51:34 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Is “partyer” correct? I’m not the grammar police or anything, but that doesn’t seem right.


24 posted on 04/04/2010 6:51:34 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Reichstag Fire on the Installment Plan -bump!


25 posted on 04/04/2010 6:52:52 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (The FASCIST knows his window of opportunity is now only 7 months. Watch him like a hawk.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
in Searchlight last week. I heard a lot of hate

The Alinsky advocates of artifice like to play checkers. Chubby Checkers that is, twistin', spinin' and shoutin' (invectives).

Why should the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus/street revolutionary rabble and their ideological issue (arguably now the Establishment) have all the fun lying about the Tea Party, et al.? Tain't fair. Let's twist and shout!

Why do the Democratic Party leaders and stalwarts hate our Constitution and the United States of America? To wit, Pelosi, Reid, all the leaders and stalwarts, even in the MSM, say the Constitution (and thus our Republic) is s***. How so?

Democrat Congressman Phil Hare said "I don't worry about the Constitution." Party leaders and stalwarts were there. The MSM were there. They rallied, they cheered, they smiled, they schemed. They have disgraced our Republic. A simple apology is not enough.

Headline?

Democratic Party: America, fix it or forget it
Democratic Party Vilifies Constitution, the U.S.
Witness said overheard Democrat: It sucks. "I don't worry about the Constitution."

26 posted on 04/04/2010 6:54:24 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is no more about hate and love then it was for the Founders of the nation who found life under the British yoke intolerable. “Hate” is an attempt at misdirection.

This racist obfuscation is a smokescreen to deflect the way that this massive unconstitutional redistribution of wealth was brought in, not on C-Span in a bi-partisan manner, but in the dark of night, with outrageous bribes, threats and intimidation. All supported by a lapdog press that the President himself jokes that is in bed with him. They all realize they cannot debate the facts because there are a multitude of very ugly ones. Their solution - quickly shout racism at their opponents.

The only bi-partisan vote, was the vote against it.


27 posted on 04/04/2010 6:55:22 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Issaquahking

It’s all your fault ping LOL


28 posted on 04/04/2010 6:57:53 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (To sin by silence when we should protest, makes cowards of men -Ella Wheeler Wilcox)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
At the risk of sounding "intolerant," I think we don't "hate" enough, and there is coming a time soon where we're going to have to get real, and get nasty, because protests and letters and e-mails have no effect on these guys.

I think massive, Martin Luther King-type civil disobedience that absolutely shuts down government, that surrounds these people's homes with sit-down strikers like the hippies, all this is going to ultimately be necessary.

29 posted on 04/04/2010 6:58:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Beyond delusional, he is a moron..WWJD? He ought to meet Jesus before he tries to quotes him.


30 posted on 04/04/2010 7:00:38 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For Mr. Greenspun:
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and clever in their own sight! (NAS, Isaiah 5:20-21)

But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. “Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! (NIV, Matthew 18:6-7)


31 posted on 04/04/2010 7:03:13 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s getting to the point where I think in order to be a democrat you have to have a low IQ. These folks are really, really stupid.


32 posted on 04/04/2010 7:07:42 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Brian....stop dropping acid.


33 posted on 04/04/2010 7:10:30 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"What would Jesus do?"


34 posted on 04/04/2010 7:11:52 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: navymom1
I’ll render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser’s, but I’ll use my vote too.

In America, we're supposed to be Caesar. Caesar is the three hundred million members of the Board of Directors. That's what makes us different.

We oppose those who would change that, those who would make this (yet another) statist kingdom as it were, through a constant and incremental transfer of power to government.

As Reagan said- where government expands, liberty contracts. Maybe the author can grace us with an explanation of how supporting power being taken away from us and given to government is somehow 'patriotic'.

35 posted on 04/04/2010 7:13:33 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Brian, with this lot in Congress and on Wall Street, probably just as he did at the Temple at the sight of the Money Changers; it wasn’t a pretty picture.


36 posted on 04/04/2010 7:13:56 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here's my question to sister Brian, assuming what you say is true, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT (besides whine, I mean)?
37 posted on 04/04/2010 7:23:45 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
On this Easter, ask yourselves, “What would Jesus do? How would Jesus act? Who would Jesus blame?”

A few days before his crufixion he went thru the temple, the seat of the Jewish government of his time, pitching out the thieves who were running it.

He also had some remarkably harsh things to say about the scribes and Pharisees, who ran the Jewish government.

38 posted on 04/04/2010 7:35:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There are people everywhere who don’t carry their own weight. Those aside, does anyone really believe the people who have been attracted to public service — as opposed to the rest of us who just don’t have the desire, the time or the inclination to work for the benefit of others — are less American than the folks who braved the winds and Porta Potties in Searchlight?

Yes, and with very good justification - Exhibit #1 being Harry "Ima Fascist" Reid himself!
39 posted on 04/04/2010 7:37:06 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; abb; weegee; Liz
This is the journalistic equivalent of

"LEAVE 0BAMA ALONE!!1!"

40 posted on 04/04/2010 7:41:32 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

First of all, there are plenty of government employees that consider themselves Tea Party members (although there is nothing to join, so how can you be a member?).

Hopefully conservatives will not make the same mistake that Democrats are making.

Democrats have painted Tea Party members as radical right wing racists assuming that all government employees back them, as well as all minorities and all Democrats. There are plenty of all of these in the Tea Party. When you look at the tea party movement and compare it to the US as far as %’s you will find that it is quite American.


41 posted on 04/04/2010 8:49:13 AM PDT by ODDITHER (c)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is omnipresent in every article I read about Tea Partiers written by a lib is that they fail to understand the basic motivations of the TP’s. It would be amusing if it wasn’t so irritating. Somehow these morons believe the TP’s are angry over government for “no good reason” whatsoever. Like the TP’s just concocted their complaints about of thin air. Yes, Mr. Greenspun is delusional.. and disingenous. Once again libs prove they’re completely at a loss when they try to understand basic conservatism.


42 posted on 04/04/2010 9:19:59 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Democrat ic Party: America, fix it or forget it
Democrat ic Party Vilifies Constitution, the U.S.

Because there's nothing DEMOCRATIC about it!

43 posted on 04/04/2010 10:31:05 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is my point-by-point reply I sent him. I know it won't do any good, but it made me feel better. Sorry for the length of this:

You: “Happy Easter.”

Me: Why thank you!

You: “Christians all over the world celebrate Easter today. It is a time for rejoicing, a time for counting blessings and a time to be thinking about matters much greater than our own.”

Me: I think most Christians would agree with this – and probably a lot who are not Christians.

You: “Easter’s message, though, should not be reserved just for Christians or just for the faithful because it is a message of hope and of all that is good in our fellow men.”

Me: Agree.

You: “I think about Easter as I have been considering what has been taking place in our country, our state and here at home. And I am having trouble understanding how we square the message of Easter with the messages that are being sent almost hourly by people across the country.”

Me:  Well, let me help you understand then.  What has been taking place in our country and your state is “We the People” exercising our God-given rights and expressing our sincere and justifiable displeasure with a government that seems to be completely detached from the will of the people.  We are blessed in this country to have these God-given rights enumerated in our Constitution.  Among these is the First Amendment which, in addition to giving you the freedom to condescendingly lecture a huge majority of the country on the merits of peace, love and harmony, also protects “the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”  That, sir, is exactly what happened in Searchlight – people peacefully assembling to petition our Government for redress of very real, very legitimate grievances.   It was a peaceful assembly except for the Harry Reid supporters who were making threats and throwing eggs at Tea Party vehicles.  I don’t think the Easter message implies that people should sit by and watch their leaders engage in what many think is tyranny and not exercise these wonderful God-given rights that our Founders had the wisdom to enumerate.         

You:  “We are all surrounded by fear, by anger and by frustration. It is palpable and it grips us throughout our days and nights. Some of it — much of it — is justified as the economic meltdown and its consequences have caused difficulties for everyone, most of whom had little or nothing to do with the causes of the financial disaster.”

Me:  Right – much of it (most of it actually) is justifiable and is being caused by a Democrat majority in both houses of Congress and in the White House that has embarked upon an agenda that the majority of people do not support and do not want to see happen.  So if you get this basic fact – that much of the frustration is justifiable - then I’m not sure why you have such a hard time understanding so many average, normal, hard-working American people expressing their displeasure with this cabal of left-wing radicals who are hell-bent on shoving their agenda down our throats.  Could it be that it is because you are on their side of these issues and thus really don’t want to understand, not that you can’t understand?  Could that be the answer?  I suspect if you were to be honest about it, the answer would be yes.

Me:  Some of us understand that what is going on in Washington DC is going to change our country forever and we happen to like the country the Founding Fathers envisioned – one of LIMITED government, NOT the country that President Obama, who in his book Dreams From My Father admits that he sought out Marxist professors at college, envisions.  If that doesn’t disturb you, then that fact alone would help explain why you don’t understand us in the Tea Party movement.  The bottom line is, we don’t WANT a socialist, or Marxist government, nor a government that controls as much of the economy as possible.  We want a free-market country with a government limited in scope to those things spelled out in the Constitution.  If that is hard for you to understand, then there probably isn’t any real hope that you will ever understand.   

You:  “Somehow, though, we have allowed our fear to consume us to the extent that we can no longer see the difference between what is real and what is not and what is fact and what is fiction. And that fear has turned to anger in many cases and frustration in most.”

Me:  Fact: Harry Reid supporters were the only one’s expressing real anger.  They were cussing and throwing eggs and just being as nasty as you can imagine.

Fact:  I was there in Searchlight and I heard a lot of cheering and expressions of support for the many patriotic speakers.  I did not witness the kind of real anger that I’ve so often seen on the left when they were burning George Bush in effigy and hanging Sarah Palin in effigy and expressing real, vile hatred towards our then-President.

Fact: The mainstream media has been intentionally mischaracterizing the Tea Party movement as a bunch of racist bigots shouting racial invectives at every passing black man.

Fiction:  There were black Congressmen who claimed bad things happened to them at the recent DC protests against the Health Care bill.  In one case a Congressman claimed people were spitting at him.  When video showed that no such thing had happened, he backed off his claim and now will not discuss it.  In another case, it was claimed that people were shouting racial epithets as the black congressmen.  However, despite hundreds of videos on the scene, not one single video has surfaced with evidence that this actually happened.  In fact, I heard that Andrew Brietbart has offered a reward of $100,000 for any video that shows Tea Partiers shouting racial slurs at anyone in DC.  Comedian Jackie Mason has offered $250,000 for the same evidence.

Fact:  But despite the fact that ZERO evidence exists, that hasn’t stopped the mainstream media – both electronic and print – from continuing the totally false, unfair and despicable charge that the Tea Parties are driven in large part by racism.  That is simply a lie – pure and simple.  But as Dan Rather proved with his bogus National Guard memos, truth doesn’t matter when the left is pushing an agenda to malign people who disagree with them.  No one that I know associated with the Tea Party movement would condone such behavior and in fact, I suspect that if someone at a Tea Party did start shouting racial comments, the rest of the Tea Partiers would turn on them and drum them out of the event!  In Searchlight, there were presenters who were themselves black, yet the crowd did not don sheets and pitchforks!  You can imagine how the characterization of my fellow Americans as angry, racist bigots frustrates those of us who know – know beyond any doubt – that their narrative is based on a complete lie and designed with a specific corrosive agenda in mind. 

You: “I suppose the obvious example of what I am talking about is last week’s gathering in Searchlight. I am happy for the merchants in that small town — I assume they did a year’s worth of business that day. But I am also saddened that so many people felt so aggrieved that they had to drive their campers, trucks, cars and buses to a place that most people need go to only once to realize they don’t want to go there again. With apologies to our good senator, Harry Reid.”

Me: You should be saddened alright; saddened that we have a government with leaders who would drive ordinary citizens, not political zealots, to take such drastic action.  Instead of focusing your “searchlight” on those of use who were willing to take leave from work and drive (in my case 10 hours) to express our legitimate concerns, perhaps you should examine the members of Congress and this Administration who seem to be completely shut off from the electorate and the people they are supposed to serve.  They should be the focus of your examination, not us normal average citizens who are simply trying desperately to get our elected officials’ attention.  They are the ones who are abusing their power with back-room deals and parliamentary shenanigans to push legislation that We the People overwhelmingly do not want!  Do not want!   

You:  It doesn’t matter whether it was 1,000 or 10,000 people who showed up to give support to the Tea Party movement. What matters is the reason so many people felt obligated to go: They are, to quote the movie “Network,” fed up and they are not going to take it anymore.

Me:  Well, yes, it does matter!  We have a media intentionally and repeatedly trying to downplay the numbers involved in this movement and doing so for their own ideological reasons.  If you are a legitimate, objective journalist (and I don’t know you so I honestly have no idea if you’re an objective journalist or just another left-wing ideologue), then that should concern even you.  A CNN reporter stated there were maybe “dozens” of people at the Searchlight event.  Why would she say such a ridiculous thing?  There were clearly thousands (I’ve seen different estimates from 7,000 to 10,000).  While I can’t say with certainly how many thousands were there, I can say with certainly that it was a whole lot more than “dozens.”  Our media these days seems to carry water for only one side of the debate and that approach to news, in a free society, is a dangerous thing.  At what point does it cease being news and become propaganda?  Seriously, think about that for about two minutes!

You:  The question that looms large, though, is fed up with what? With whom?

Me:  This statement makes it clear that you simply are not listening to the Tea Party members.  If you were paying event a modicum of attention to what is actually being said in this movement, you would not need to ask this question.  But your deafness to what is being said is the same deafness our elected officials are demonstrating that is at the root of the movement in the first place.  Of you don’t get it, then it can only be because you don’t want to get it, not that you’re incapable of getting it.

You: And that is where the “F” words — fear and frustration — come into play.

You:  As best I can tell, some people believe that someone, anyone, else is responsible for whatever our problems are. To some extent, I agree with them. After all, in my mind I did nothing wrong over the past 15 years. In fact, I tried to do everything right. And, yet, when the economic tsunami hit, my family’s faith and investment in Las Vegas were rewarded with a meltdown the likes of which no one could have predicted. That has caused a great deal of fear and frustration. And, in some cases, anger.

You: “But we know with whom to be angry. We have to look inward for much of the blame. We had too much faith in the unimpeded growth of Las Vegas , too much faith in the belief that things would only go up and never come down so precipitously. But, having faith in your community, your friends and your dreams is not a bad thing.”

Me:  You have to look inward for much of the blame?  So it was you, not the government who was encouraging and in some cases requiring banks and other lenders to make unsafe, unsound loans?  It was you encouraging unsound loans so that everyone could own a home – even those who could not afford it?  That was you?  Darn, and here I thought it was people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and many other Democrats in Congress who refused to listen to Republicans and even to their own auditor regarding the obvious need to place stricter oversight on the lenders like Fannie and Freddy.  It was this refusal to provide stricter oversight that ultimately led to the melt-down of the mortgage markets!  If it had not been for the government’s insistence that backs make loans that were extremely risky, this meltdown either would not have happened, or it would have been a minor correction, not a major collapse.  The free market is always going to have ups and downs and there will always be winners and losers, but the Democrats insistence on continuing down there reckless path certainly exasperated the problem in a major way.  This is fact.      

You:  “Losing faith, though, can be serious.”

You:  Easter’s message is a simple one. It is about love and redemption. I didn’t see much love of fellow men in Searchlight last week. I heard a lot of hate, though. Do the folks who have claimed the Tea Party as their express ride to better government really believe they are more patriotic than the thousands of people who show up every day to work for the government — local, state and national — on their behalf? While the rest of us are tending to our own businesses, our own families and our own challenges, is it fair to believe that those who earn government paychecks are working overtime to do us harm?

Me:  Ah ha!  I knew eventually you would get to the “H” word.  Hate!  Well, if you were in fact there, then you did not hear hate, you heard anger and frustration regarding our government and a lot of enthusiastic support for those who want to fix what DC is breaking!  I don’t know if you bothered to attend or if you simply got your low-down from MSNBC, but I was there in the flesh and did not hear any hate.  If I had, I would have left.  There was a good deal of passionate speech against much of what is going on in our government, but there was not hate (not counting the Harry Reid supporters threatening people and throwing eggs of course).  You probably don’t want to hear this, but for you to accuse an entire group of normal, ordinary, hard working fellow Americans of “hate” where none exists, is itself an act of hate.  If anyone in this conversation is being hateful, it is you, sir.  You are assigning that corrosive charge to thousands of good people who are simply expressing their opinions and peacefully assembling.  You, sir, should be ashamed of yourself, if shame is something that you are capable of.  But your off-handed charge of “hate’ is in keeping with the overall untruthful narrative of the media at large.  It isn’t true and I suspect you know it (if you really were at the Searchlight event then you know for a fact it’s a lie).  Were you equally concerned when Bush was President and we had protests all over this country expressing genuine hatred for the man who kept them safe for 8 years?   There were no incidents of the President being burned in effigy at the Searchlight event like there were all over the country during the Bush administration.  No one can hold a candle to the far-left in this country when it comes to genuine expressions of hate.

Me:  And I have not heard anyone in the Tea Party malign people who serve honorably in government.  I have gone back and looked at the many pictures I took of posters at the Tea Party and didn’t see any signs that expressed this made-up sentiment.  Your complaint that somehow those of us in the Tea Party movement believe we are “more patriotic” than people employed by government is pure fiction – nonsense!  This isn’t about individuals who happened to be employed by the government – heck, I was a government employee for 24 years.  No sir, this is about “the government” and our elected officials turning a deaf ear to the will of the people!  When you have a government that ignores completely the will of the people, then how far can we be from true totalitarianism?  Sean Penn may like the government of Venezuela , but most of us who call ourselves Americans really don’t want to live under such rule.       

You: “There are people everywhere who don’t carry their own weight. Those aside, does anyone really believe the people who have been attracted to public service — as opposed to the rest of us who just don’t have the desire, the time or the inclination to work for the benefit of others — are less American than the folks who braved the winds and Porta Potties in Searchlight?”

Me:  No, no one does really think that.  This sentiment is a figment of your wild imagination.  I neither saw nor heard anything at the Searchlight event (nor ant any of the several other Tea Parties I’ve attended) to substantiate your claim.  You are just making stuff up – and if there is some antidotal evidence of people who feel that way, it is just that – antidotal and not by any stretch what the Tea Parties are all about.  But again, throwing these kinds of charges out there is a favorite tactic of the left.  Whether the charges are grounded in truth makes no difference, and that’s really sad.   

You:  “Isn’t there enough hate in the world directed at us because of who we are, how we live and what we believe? Why do we have to manufacture our own and aim it at people who, for the most part, are just trying to do the right thing the best way they can?”

Me:  Yes sir, there is enough (too much) hate already, so why don’t you stop making these hateful claims that are not founded in truth in order to malign your fellow Americans.  You have to know that much of what you are ascribing to the Tea Partiers is total bunk – either that or you are listening to MSNBC and really believe their propaganda. 

You:  “I don’t see the protesters and naysayers taking oaths of office, government salaries and citizen ridicule to work on behalf of their fellow citizens. All I hear are anger-laden complaints.”

Me: Again, this is untrue.  I took an oath of office myself as a commissioned officer and served my country proudly for 24 years.  A large portion of those attending the Tea Party in Searchlight were veterans who all served in our government.  (Or doesn't that count in your world?)   There are several people around the country who are stepping up to the challenge of government service as a direct result of the Tea Party movement.  If you don’t see it it’s because you don’t want to see it.

You: “And what about redemption? Isn’t that what Easter is all about? Didn’t Jesus make the ultimate sacrifice to redeem the rest of the world from its sins? Where does it say the Tea Party or any other aggrieved group of citizens needs to take that one on, too?”

You:  “I know it is every citizen’s right to complain, and I have done my share over the years. But mine has never been filled with hate. I don’t believe all politicians lie. And I don’t believe I have a corner on the truth. And, for certain, I am careful about what I choose to believe of what comes over the Internet — a medium filled with junk that is designed to inflame our passions, play with our emotions and lead us down the path of falsity and away from truth.”

Me:  If you know it’s every citizen’s right to complain, then why on Earth are you complaining so much about our complaining?  Good grief!  And there’s that “H” word again…for goodness sake, stop ascribing that corrosive motivation to those of us who are good hard working citizens just because you don’t like what we’re doing.  That’s; really what is behind your so-called concern – it’s that you disagree with our views.  Fair enough, but stop with the hate word, ok?

You: “That doesn’t make me better, just better informed.”

Me:  Better informed than who?  I will assure you that a large percentage of the Tea Party goers are as well informed as anyone out there!  We are not all knuckle dragging illiterate rubes with 3rd grade educations!  Your statement sounds extremely self-serving and not just a little condescending.  You only think you’re “better informed.”  Keep living the dream my friend! 

You:  I’m not complaining about people who are frustrated, angry and scared. That’s most folks today. But, I am concerned about those who hear the truth — that jobs are starting to come back, that the economy is beginning to rebound ever so slightly and that major financial disaster was averted last year — and refuse to believe it, choosing instead to see socialists, communists and anti-American sleepers under every bed. We have been there and done that — 60 years ago it almost destroyed this nation.

Me:  Jobs are starting to come back?  Really?  Well, there will be those census workers that will cause the unemployment rate to temporarily tick up, and there are a lot more government jobs.  But where are the real, private sector jobs that are the engine of an economy?  Those have not started to come back.  If you want truth, then how about the fact that President Obama promised that if they enacted these draconian government takeovers and bailouts that unemployment would not go above 8 percent?  Well, it blasted through that figure in pretty short order and has been hovering at near 10 percent ever since.  And the economy is rebounding?  And as for avoiding a major financial disaster - really?  It was liberal policies in the mortgage markets that got us into the mess in the first place, that’s number one.  Number two, have you not been reading the reports that, because of the massive debt this administration is saddling us with, we are on the verge of loosing our AAA Credit rating?   This administration is placing a $12 Trillion debt on the heads of our children and their children and their children’s’ children, probably forever.  Since you are a columnist, mathematics may not me your cup of tea.  I’m an Engineer (with a masters degree), so let me see if I can put this in perspective for you.  Let’s just talk about $1 Trillion – never mind twelve!  Let’s say you were alive when Christ was born, and you began at that time spending $1 million every single day up till today.  You would need to continue your spending spree for nearly another 700 years from today to have spent just $1 Trillion.  Now multiply that by 12.  See the problem?  If you don’t then there probably is no hope of convincing you that there is a damn good reason for people to be frustrated and angry.     

You:  “Easter brings with it a message of love, redemption and hope. I am not asking people to believe me when I say that most elected officials and government workers are good and decent people who work hard and try to do what is right.”

Me:  You mean like the message of love and redemption you reflected when, in a April 2009 column, you compared the Tea Party goers to a child throwing a tantrum?  Do you have any idea how much that makes you sound like an elitist, toffee-nosed twit?  Well it does.  Frankly, sir, who the heck are you to lecture us about, well about anything, especially about redemption?  You really are quite full of yourself, aren’t you?    

You:  “What I am asking of those individuals, who are so angry that they point fingers of blame in so many of the wrong places, is to step back and ask themselves a question that is on so many car bumpers in cities across this country.”

Me:  Are you talking about us in the Tea Party, fighting to save our country from a path that is going to lead to massive debt and Lord knows what else, or are you talking about President Obama who continues to this day to “point the finger of blame” on the previous administration?  I’ve yet to hear the man speak without some reference to the horrible things the previous administration caused – which he must now save us all from.  I've yet to hear him take responsibility for anything!  This is a man who bristles at the slightest criticism.  He continually maligns his opponents while constantly complaining about those who oppose his policies.  Not very Presidential if you ask me.  The term narcissist comes to mind. 

You:  On this Easter, ask yourselves, “What would Jesus do? How would Jesus act? Who would Jesus blame?”

Me: Please, sir, get off your high horse and stop lecturing the rest of us about the spirit of Easter…you have demonstrated in your past articles that you live in a glass house. 

Happy Easter.

Indeed

Note:  There was no hate expressed in this response, only frustration at the unfair and untrue characterization by this author regarding those of us who are genuinely and legitimately concerned for your country.  I will pray for his poor, lost soul on this Easter Sunday.

44 posted on 04/04/2010 12:15:05 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: JaguarXKE

Bravo!!


45 posted on 04/04/2010 12:39:29 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
On this Easter, ask yourselves, “What would Jesus do? How would Jesus act? Who would Jesus blame?”

I suggest, Brian, you check out what Jesus DID when He found the moneychangers in the temple, full description available of how He acted and whom He blamed.

46 posted on 04/04/2010 12:45:18 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: LRS
I’ll add what someone was saying the other day: there’s more people riding on the wagon now than there are people pulling it, and the wheels are coming off.

As Sen. Phil Gramm used to say during the days when he was almost the lone voice against Hillary-care: "It's time for people who are riding in the wagon to get out and help push it."

47 posted on 04/04/2010 12:48:24 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, brother. Here is a perfect example of Alinsky’s advice to “make them live up to their own standards,” and nothing more than that - shameless, hypocritical, and manipulative. I wouldn’t give Greenspun another thought. He isn’t even a very good propagandist.


48 posted on 04/04/2010 12:53:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: autumnraine
Is “partyer” correct? I’m not the grammar police or anything, but that doesn’t seem right.

It doesn't, does it? But it is: partyer

If you click the "Also: partier" link, you are brought right back to seeing that partyer is a proper spelling ... it's that y/i problem, I had to make sure my own self.

49 posted on 04/04/2010 12:55:13 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; 2nd Amendment; 2ndDivisionVet; 9YearLurker; andy58-in-nh; Arizona Carolyn; ...

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If you don’t love tyranny, then you’re full of hate?
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50 posted on 04/04/2010 12:59:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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