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Women in submarines face health issues
washingtontimes.com ^ | April 5, 2010 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 04/04/2010 9:45:22 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

On the surface, the Navy's leadership has sounded exuberant in speaking publicly about its recent decision to begin deploying female sailors in the cramped confines of combat submarines by next year.

But behind the scenes, the prospect of coed submarines is presenting medical and ship-construction challenges.

A specialist on undersea medicine is warning Congress that the air inside a submarine can be hazardous to fetal development.

"Atmosphere controls are different between ships and a submarine's sealed environment," retired Rear Adm. Hugh Scott, a former undersea medical officer, told The Washington Times. "There are all types of organic traces that off-gas into the air that have to be removed by mechanical means. You just can't open a window and let them out."

Adm. Scott said the Office of Naval Research contacted him about serving on a panel to study women and submarine issues, but he never heard back. A spokesman for the office said he had no immediate information on any submarine study.

The Navy is following the template it is using to allow gays in the military. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates voiced support for removing the ban on gays, then ordered a study to determine the impact on combat readiness and military families.

During congressional testimony this year, Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, enthusiastically endorsed placing Navy women in subs.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: militarywomen; submarines; usnavy
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1 posted on 04/04/2010 9:45:22 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

>>”There are all types of organic traces that off-gas into the air that have to be removed by mechanical means. You just can’t open a window and let them out.” <<

IOW, when men fart, you can’t luff the covers.


2 posted on 04/04/2010 9:46:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Craven spirits wear their master's collars but real men would rather feed the battlefield's vultures)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t think the “diversity” knucklehead crowd in the Pentagon is really all that concerned about the health of their female sailors. “Diversity” and “social engineering” in number one on the military’s list of priorities right now.


3 posted on 04/04/2010 9:51:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dumbest idea I ever heard of, women on submarines ...


4 posted on 04/04/2010 9:51:59 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well there you have it, I guess...we've been building our submarines wrong all these years...
5 posted on 04/04/2010 9:52:33 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Open toilets, dangerous gases, fetal damage, lack of physical strength, getting pregnant ...

WHen an emergency comes will Gates be there to cover for them?

Remember the 9 fatal crashes during training for our next F-16 to-be-pilot???

Then she sued!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 04/04/2010 9:54:30 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Blame Lauren Holly, she started it all.


Down Periscope

7 posted on 04/04/2010 9:55:26 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

See “Das Boot”, then decide if you want an underwater fetus.


8 posted on 04/04/2010 9:57:33 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A million crude jokes using the words “down” and “under” are flooding my brain. Not to mention references about “scrubbing the head.”

Seriously, though, isn’t a laugh riot that men could breathe that same toxic soup for decades without a single complaint, but the moment women step on board, suddenly we need a can of Fabreze ready to lighten up the aroma? How about one of those odor eaters in an outlet? At least spray the bathroom after using it. (My wife’s favorite complaint, by the way.) A nice floral decor would make everything better... at least until that special gal with those allergies to offensive odors comes on board.

Our descendents will find this era a gold mine for absurd humor.


9 posted on 04/04/2010 9:58:47 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: freedumb2003
And what are they gonna do with all those 'pre-owned' tampoons? Fire them out a torpedo tube? It would look like a can of cuttlefish exploded.........


10 posted on 04/04/2010 9:58:48 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Where the hell can I get a court injunction to keep my own government out of my life?!?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Jock rot” is bad enough...what do they call it for women?


11 posted on 04/04/2010 9:59:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"air inside a submarine can be hazardous to fetal development."

Oh, god! roflmbo The things you have to worry about when you make changes you haven't thought out.

12 posted on 04/04/2010 10:02:09 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh sweet *censored*. THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA!


13 posted on 04/04/2010 10:06:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (FUBO! FUNP! FUHR! FUBS!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Operation petticoat...
14 posted on 04/04/2010 10:06:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: freedumb2003

That crap is in the air for up to 4 months if you are on a nuclear deterrent patrol, guys get wacky on these extended cruises..can only wonder at the sexual harassment claims this will create.


15 posted on 04/04/2010 10:07:45 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sorry, guys, but I would not want to be 500 ft down in a pressure hull with a partial complement of ratings with PMS. No thanks.


16 posted on 04/04/2010 10:07:57 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: redpoll

I stipulate that women are sometimes physically as hardy if not hardier than men. But what is the point of mixing them with men if an all male crew can perform better. Should the NCAA make Duke add a woman to the mix?


17 posted on 04/04/2010 10:09:30 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Stupidity . . .

I look forward to the day when front-line officers are in charge again, and these desk driving idiots are retried.

18 posted on 04/04/2010 10:10:27 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (insert witty comment here)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“air inside a submarine can be hazardous to fetal development.”
There’s two ways to save developing babies in submarines, 1) Don’t let women serve aboard subs and 2) don’t let pregnant women into the submarines.
Problem solved.


19 posted on 04/04/2010 10:10:59 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Another potential problem when you mix submarines and women ...


20 posted on 04/04/2010 10:12:38 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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