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Obama Limits When U.S. Would Use Nuclear Arms
New York Times ^ | April 5, 2010 | DAVID E. SANGER and PETER BAKER

Posted on 04/05/2010 5:37:13 PM PDT by lbryce

WASHINGTON — President Obama said Monday that he was revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions under which the United States would use nuclear weapons, even in self defense.

But the president said in an interview that he was carving out an exception for “outliers like Iran and North Korea” that have violated or renounced the main treaty to halt nuclear proliferation.

Discussing his approach to nuclear security the day before formally releasing his new strategy, Mr. Obama described his policy as part of a broader effort to edge the world toward making nuclear weapons obsolete, and to create incentives for countries to give up any nuclear ambitions. To set an example, the new strategy renounces the development of any new nuclear weapons, overruling the initial position of his own defense secretary.

Mr. Obama’s strategy is a sharp shift from those adopted by his predecessors and seeks to revamp the nation’s nuclear posture for a new age in which rogue states and terrorist organizations are greater threats than traditional powers like Russia and China.

It eliminates much of the ambiguity that has deliberately existed in American nuclear policy since the opening days of the Cold War. For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Those threats, he argued, could be deterred with “a series of graded options” -- a combination of old and newly designed conventional weapons.

“I’m going to preserve all the tools that are necessary in order to make sure that the American people are safe and secure,” Mr. Obama said during the interview in the Oval Office.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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He's turning out to be worse than our worst fears
1 posted on 04/05/2010 5:37:13 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

We now WISH he was Jimmy Carter.


2 posted on 04/05/2010 5:38:35 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.JDforsenate.com)
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To: lbryce

When can we impeach this guy?


3 posted on 04/05/2010 5:42:17 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: lbryce
From "45 Communist Goals":
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963:

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

4 posted on 04/05/2010 5:43:26 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: All

WTF???!!!


5 posted on 04/05/2010 5:43:28 PM PDT by quesney
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To: BillyBonebrake
When can we impeach this guy?

Hopefully before he kills ALOT of Americans.

6 posted on 04/05/2010 5:43:28 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists".)
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To: lbryce

And Chrissy gets a tingle up his leg.


7 posted on 04/05/2010 5:43:44 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: BillyBonebrake

It’s time for the poseur-in-chief to resign or be removed from office. Actually, it’s past time.


8 posted on 04/05/2010 5:44:06 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: lbryce

Calling all nutty dictators and jihadis. Go ahead and attack us - our pants will be down for the next three years.


9 posted on 04/05/2010 5:44:16 PM PDT by Argus
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To: lbryce
Drudge headline linked to this.


10 posted on 04/05/2010 5:44:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BillyBonebrake

I always thought there was an implied MADD strategy saying that if nukes were used as terror weapons (or if any similar weapons of mass destruction were used in the US), that we would respond with nukes against the presumed country where the terrorist acts originated, and also possibly against Mecca (that being the one thing the terrorists would hesitate to see destroyed).

If so, and if that threat was effective, this policy has just removed it and whatever deterrent it offered.


11 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:00 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: BillyBonebrake

Never until we take back at least the House. Would Biden be more sensible?


12 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:01 PM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: lbryce

This idiot is a danger to our liberty and our lives. He is out to destroy everything that made the USA a strong nation.


13 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:10 PM PDT by GregoTX (I am the resistance)
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To: lbryce

The ambiguity was good. Let the bad guys worry. Now they have an F’in road map.


14 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:15 PM PDT by AU72
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To: DCBryan1; STARWISE; SE Mom; onyx

From the article:

“For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack.”

Good god...the man is going to get us all killed!


15 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:24 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: lbryce

The Obama doctrine:

1. If Bush did it right (like with nuclear deterrence), do it wrong.

2. if Bush did it wrong (like with deficits), do it wrong worse.


16 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:45 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: lbryce

Seeing that not only is he doing things NOT empowered by the Constitution,

he now is deliberately NOT doing things to protect the country.

He needs removal from office immediately. Then Biden. Then Pelosi. Then Reid.


17 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: lbryce

This guy is a f%#€tard of the first order.


18 posted on 04/05/2010 5:45:54 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Socialism is for people who've given up.)
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To: lbryce

We are all French now.


19 posted on 04/05/2010 5:46:13 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: lbryce

God help us.


20 posted on 04/05/2010 5:46:43 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: lbryce
" For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons, or launched a crippling cyberattack."

Correction: For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing SUICIDE. We're sitting ducks.

21 posted on 04/05/2010 5:47:12 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (You better HOPE you end up with a little CHANGE in your pocket after he's finished.)
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WEAKNESS IS STRENGTH


22 posted on 04/05/2010 5:48:06 PM PDT by woofie
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To: lbryce

Is this “humor?”


23 posted on 04/05/2010 5:48:24 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: lbryce

obumpa


24 posted on 04/05/2010 5:49:05 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: lbryce

Why is it every time I dare to think “Well, it couldn’t get any worse,” I’m proven wrong?

At this rate, I can’t even imagine where we’ll end up by the time we’re done with this man and those who support him. It’s too frightening to comprehend.


25 posted on 04/05/2010 5:49:10 PM PDT by The4thHorseman
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To: BillyBonebrake

Impeaching a frontman of the globalist elite will not do anything. Obama plays a pivotal role in the deliberate dismantlement of America.


26 posted on 04/05/2010 5:49:19 PM PDT by myknowledge (B.H. Obama's just a frontman. A frontman for who? The globalist elite, stupid!)
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To: lbryce
He's trying to overwhelm us, confuse us, defeat us, and destroy us.

If we don't stop this tyrant in November, we're all going to end up dead.

27 posted on 04/05/2010 5:50:36 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: BillyBonebrake

“When can we impeach this guy?”

He can’t be impeached because he’s not really President.


28 posted on 04/05/2010 5:50:36 PM PDT by devere
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To: lbryce

Who has the stinking gonads to actually bring up papers of impeachment on our side?


29 posted on 04/05/2010 5:50:43 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I seriously can't tell if the Times is trying to dupe me or not!

There again, I can't believe America is going down the tubes at this quick a pace.

30 posted on 04/05/2010 5:50:54 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

PING...

Obama selling out to Russia and China!


31 posted on 04/05/2010 5:51:01 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: lbryce

Everybody will like us a lot more now....


32 posted on 04/05/2010 5:51:04 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: lbryce
China and Russia now know that we will quietly absorb as many nuclear weapons as they care to launch.

Does anyone -- ANYONE -- believe that Obama would launch a retaliatory strike if Russia launched FULL ON at us?

Anyone?

33 posted on 04/05/2010 5:52:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: lbryce

He just gave our opponents the initiative. Not that he hasn’t already.

Why tell opponents your strategy?


34 posted on 04/05/2010 5:52:14 PM PDT by blogOps (don't bite me. i'm newbie)
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To: Thunder90
Russia and China!

Honestly, I could see those two scheming and together nuking our arse.

35 posted on 04/05/2010 5:53:55 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: ohioWfan

“If we don’t stop this tyrant in November, we’re all going to end up dead.”

Dead or red. Sad.


36 posted on 04/05/2010 5:53:56 PM PDT by blogOps (don't bite me. i'm newbie)
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To: Nachum

ping


37 posted on 04/05/2010 5:54:59 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: penelopesire

First thing’s first..
We are back to “Launch on Impact” protocol, thus we need to wait until nukes hit our soil before we can launch back

Second..
Because we have to wait until multiple nukes hit us (To ascertain who attacked us with certainty) then wait until POTUS gives the order to retaliate (Which does take time), we would have to wait at least one hour AFTER the first nukes hit before retaliation. By this time, many of our subs would be on the bottom (those 1/3 that are not in port).


38 posted on 04/05/2010 5:55:10 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: lbryce
Kiss Taiwan Eastern Europe and former Soviet Union states buh-bye.

Japan, S.Korea, W. Europe, Gulf States, So. America, your are on your own.

Better cut the best deal you can now.

39 posted on 04/05/2010 5:55:26 PM PDT by AU72
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To: blogOps

Commander in Chief... NOT!


40 posted on 04/05/2010 5:56:09 PM PDT by CurlyBill (1-20-13 can't get here fast enough!)
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To: ohioWfan
If we don't stop this tyrant in November

Think I might make a betting pool on if we even make it to November in one piece. And if we do, will there be anything left to vote on/for?

41 posted on 04/05/2010 5:56:25 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: lbryce

IMO, Treason, plain and simple, and that extends to Gates and Jones if they go along with it.


42 posted on 04/05/2010 5:56:43 PM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: blogOps
Not sad. Tragic.

We MUST stop this man. We MUST resist. We MUST revolt.

The Tea Party movement just got stronger. IMO. The ONLY thing he's supposed to be doing - keeping us safe - he is choosing not to do.

Americans neither want to be red nor dead. He will be stopped.

43 posted on 04/05/2010 5:56:59 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: woofie

Huh?


44 posted on 04/05/2010 5:57:32 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (You better HOPE you end up with a little CHANGE in your pocket after he's finished.)
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To: BillyBonebrake
You were asking ...

When can we impeach this guy?

Ummmm..., that would be when the House of Representatives does it... :-)

BUT..., then... you've still got to go through the Senate, and the last time that was tried, it failed in the Senate, if you remember.

45 posted on 04/05/2010 5:58:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: AU72

We are so circuling the bowl!!! 2012 can’t come fast enough for the U.S....


46 posted on 04/05/2010 5:58:25 PM PDT by hstacey
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To: theDentist

When 0bama is revealed publically to be Constitutionally unqualified, and his past history is made clear, he’ll be out of the White House and if Biden is up next (no telling, if 0bama is dragged out before his term is up), the Dems will be castrated anyway.


47 posted on 04/05/2010 5:58:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Thunder90

Isn’t Obama also refusing to allow us to do needed ‘maintenance’ and ‘testing’ work on our missile silos and equipment now too? I thought I read that somewhere last week.


48 posted on 04/05/2010 5:59:01 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Michael Barnes

As I said in my above post, the resistence of American citizens will only grow stronger with this reckless behavior. It’s up to US to save the country now.


49 posted on 04/05/2010 5:59:02 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: lbryce
I think he just told Russia to come and get us and the muzzies to attack Israel.
50 posted on 04/05/2010 5:59:10 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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