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Jane Fonda Decries Hanoi Jane ‘Myth’ ‘Created by Right-Wingers,’ Palin Popularity ‘Worries Me’
NewsBusters ^ | April 6, 2010 | Brad Wilmouth

Posted on 04/06/2010 6:34:27 AM PDT by Zakeet

On Monday’s Larry King Live on CNN, guest Jane Fonda portrayed herself as a victim of a "myth" that was "created" by "right-wingers" about her infamous "Hanoi Jane" visit to Vietnam to protest the Vietnam War. Without specifying what aspect of the "Hanoi Jane" story she considered to be a fallacy, though the "Product Description" at Amazon.com seems to shed some light on what she was referring to, she claimed that author Jerry Lembcke’s new book, "Hanoi Jane: War, Sex, and Fantasies of Betrayal," is "about the myth," and asserted that it is "sad" that some conservatives are "still stuck in the past":

JANE FONDA: No, it's about the myth, you know, why it is that 300 people went to North Vietnam, people, many people before me, why me, why have they created this myth? You know, when I came back from North Vietnam, there was maybe a quarter of an inch of media about it in the New York Times. Nobody made any big deal out of it. It was created, and some people are stuck-

LARRY KING: By critics?

FONDA: By right wingers. There are some people who are like stuck there, you know, they're still stuck in the past. I always want to say, "Get a life," or, you know, "Read what really happened," you know. The myths are now true.

Referring to people who sometimes protest against her, she continued: "But it makes me sad for these people who are stuck because they've not taken the time – if they're going to waste their energy on hatred, they should take the time in finding out what was really true."

The "Product Description" of the book at Amazon.com contends:

Hanoi Jane, the book, deconstructs Hanoi Jane, the myth, to locate its origins in the need of Americans to explain defeat in Vietnam through fantasies of home-front betrayal and the emasculation of the national will-to-war. Lembcke shows th t the expression Hanoi Jane did not reach the eyes and ears of most Americans until five or six years after the end of the war in Vietnam. By then, anxieties about America s declining global status and deteriorating economy were fueling a populist reaction that pointed to the loss of the war as the taproot of those problems. Blaming the antiwar movement for undermining the military s resolve, many found in the imaginary Hanoi Jane the personification of their stab-in-the back theories.

Ground zero of the myth was the city of Hanoi itself, which Jane Fonda had visited as a peace activist in July 1972. Rumors surrounding Fonda s visits with U.S. POWs and radio broadcasts to troops combined to conjure allegations of treason that had cost American lives. That such tales were more imagined than real did not prevent them from insinuating themselves into public memory, where they have continued to infect American politics and culture.

Hanoi Jane is a book about the making of Hanoi Jane by those who saw a formidable threat in the Jane Fonda who supported soldiers and veterans opposed to the war they fought, in the postcolonial struggle of the Vietnamese people to make their own future, and in the movements of women everywhere for gender equality.

When asked by host King what she thought of Sarah Palin, after asserting that "she should not be a politician, in my opinion," and that it is "sad when someone says I'm going to run for office and they can't answer basic questions, you know, about the world, about what they read, about history," the left-wing actress concluded that Palin’s popularity "worries me, frankly."

Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Monday, April 5, Larry King Live on CNN:


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fonda; fta; hanoijane; janefonda; mediabias; msm; palin
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To: Zakeet

I think Hanoi Jane needs to visit Dr Conrad Murray so she sleep easier.


41 posted on 04/06/2010 6:55:27 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: ETL

They sure refer to “armed struggle” a lot for peaceniks. And the left projects that on the Right every chance they get.


42 posted on 04/06/2010 6:55:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hope I live long enough to urinate on her grave.

Living long enough to make it to the front of that line is the part that worries me.

Guy in line: Go to the end of the line.
New guy: Where's that?
Guy in line: Nashville.

I'm assuming she will be buried in California.

43 posted on 04/06/2010 6:59:36 AM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Zakeet

The updated phrase is “Traitorous Communist Bitch”.

The day she finally assumes room temperature, there will be a coast-to-coast party among the Nation’s remaining Vietnam Vets.

I can hardly wait...


44 posted on 04/06/2010 6:59:42 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: katana

“We won’t forget or forgive until you die a natural death or, preferably, by way of a short rope and a long drop, Jane.”

Exactly. She should have been tried for treason and hung a long time ago.


45 posted on 04/06/2010 6:59:46 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: massgopguy

“If it wasn’t for her father she’d be in jail.”

F A C T


46 posted on 04/06/2010 6:59:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Zakeet
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Cindy Sheehan, Jodie Evans, Hugo Chavez,
Medea Benjamin [co-founder Code Pink]

Code Pink 'Bundles' for Barack, 4/14/2008

"The co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink [Jodie Evans] has “bundled” more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25997

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REVOLUTION: Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]

Revolution interview with ["Peace Mom"] Cindy Sheehan: October 29, 2005:
['Revolution' is the official newspaper of the Revolutionary Communist Party]
http://rwor.org/a/021/cindy-sheehan-interview.htm
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

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"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans embraces commie traitor Jane Fonda

47 posted on 04/06/2010 7:00:16 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: magslinger

The upside is, someone can make a lot of money selling 6 packs...


48 posted on 04/06/2010 7:00:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Zakeet

June, 1970 -- Kerry joins Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), a national veterans group that is part of the Peoples Coalition for Peace and Justice. The PCPJ is a broad coalition of local and national organizations, including the Communist Party, USA, "committed to conducting demonstrations aimed at ending the war in Indochina, and poverty, racism and injustice at home." The VVAW, CCI and PCPJ all have headquarters at 156 Fifth Avenue in New York City. VVAW Executive Secretary Al Hubbard, a former Black Panther, is also on the coordinating committee of the PCPJ. Hubbard soon appoints Kerry to the VVAW's Executive Committee, bypassing the normal election process.
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Fact: The Black Panthers were revolutionary communists...

From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo [i.e., the police].

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://web.archive.org/web/20060717050055/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline

49 posted on 04/06/2010 7:02:01 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And Beechnut...


50 posted on 04/06/2010 7:02:36 AM PDT by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Dudoight
"What these Hollywood liberals don’t realize is their very lifestyle and big living would also fall under the hammer."

Oh contraire my friend. That is the insideousness of this. In communism, while the philosophy is that all are treated equally and the state controls everything, the reality is that there are the masses of people who live like dogs grovelling at the feet of their government masters and then there are the ruling elite in the government and upper crust of society. She plans on being part of the elite. She just doesn't want you there.
51 posted on 04/06/2010 7:03:06 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ConorMacNessa
"Hanoi Jane - communist traitor b*tch!"

You have succinctly and accurately summed up her entire pathetic existence.

When the time comes, your words should be her eulogy and epitaph.

52 posted on 04/06/2010 7:03:06 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms. - Aristotle)
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To: Markos33

We were kickin tail when I was there and it was an honorable cause!


53 posted on 04/06/2010 7:05:20 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Zakeet

W. Beatty stated Hanoi Jane can unhinge her jaw..or something like that..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sexy_tell_all_jumps_into_beatty_MrbzhzXV8qA78Fyi26QVzL/0


54 posted on 04/06/2010 7:06:27 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Zakeet

We did NOT see her in the tank aiming at Americans.

Nope, didn’t see it!


55 posted on 04/06/2010 7:08:54 AM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Zakeet

Yes Jane, you were one hot babe in your day. No doubt about that. In fact, I’m sure that most males on this site would gladly turn communist for the 15 - 30 minutes it would take to get with you. Sort of like the Happy Days episode when Potsy and Ralph Mouth turned from Stephenson supporters to Ike supporters for the free hot dogs.

Other than that, your philosophy has proven to not work. You stance was a lie from the first. The people of South Vietnam had made their choice for a free democracy. Yes, it was corrupt but they were under an elected government. It was the North who were the agressors dear Jane. You know, the communists ones you loved. We were protecting the choice that the people of South Vietnam made. You were a disgrace to America and in another time, would have been hung for consorting with the enemy. You can’t make enough amends in some peoples eyes. However, denying what you did is not going to make amends to a lot of other people. Your problem is not that people have not taken the time to read about what you did. Its that they have read about what you did and disapprove.


56 posted on 04/06/2010 7:11:50 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Zakeet
Poor Jane, the only struggle you now endure is the one to stay relevant...
57 posted on 04/06/2010 7:15:41 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: Zakeet

Who knew that PhotoShop was so advanced in the early 70s?


58 posted on 04/06/2010 7:18:50 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Give them 2.54 cm and they'll take 1.61 km.)
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To: Zakeet
The myths are now true.

Jane, you ignorant slut.

59 posted on 04/06/2010 7:20:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: VRWCmember

Jane “traitor” fonda is a tool and a fool. STFU you dried-up old hag.


60 posted on 04/06/2010 7:20:31 AM PDT by hal ogen ($10 (I think) ajmo0unts through the internet from all over the world.)
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