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Social Security Institute ^ | April 4, 2010 | Larry Hunter

Posted on 04/06/2010 10:51:20 AM PDT by lward99


If you are a mainstream Christian or a Jew, you need not apply to Opt Out of ObamaCare; that exemption is reserved for Muslims, Scientologists, Amish, Christian Scientists and Native American Indians who have a “conscientious objection” to insurance. A conscientious objection to theft committed by rogue politicians under the color of law with the threat of violence for non-compliance isn’t sufficient in America today to exempt average Americans from the stranglehold of government.

Believe it or not, if you are a Muslim you may claim a special religious exemption to Obama-Care that is denied to main-stream Christians and Jews. Or if you prefer a New-Age religion to Islam, you may become a Scientologist and Opt Out of ObamaCare’s mandatory pur-chase of health insurance. Or, if you happen to be of Native American Indian extraction you too can opt out of the insurance laws by which everyone else in America must abide.

“There are several reasons why an individual could claim exemption, being a member of a religion that does not believe in insurance is one of them. Islam is one of those religions. Muslims believe that health insurance is ‘haraam,’ or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling. This belief excludes them from any of the requirements, mandates, or penalties set forth in the bill. Other excluded groups include Amish, American Indians, and Christian Scientists.” Quote from Liberty & Pride Blog

DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you? 

What is next? Allowing Muslims to opt out of mandatory state automobile insurance laws?

If you are a typical hardworking American who pays the freight for this healthcare Obamanation, you are required not only to pay the taxes to support free and subsidized healthcare for others, you also will be required to purchase health insurance or pay a fine if you don’t while certain favored religions and ethnic groups are allowed to escape the government’s maw. The U.S. Constitution supposedly grants ALL Americans equal protection of the law but under ObamaCare, some Americans are clearly more equal than others.

Make no mistake, ObamaCare is a law specifically written NOT to apply equally to everyone. It is the single biggest act of discrimination enacted under the color of law since Jim Crow Laws. One Congressman, Jim Hare of Illinois, let the cat out of the bag in shocking fashion when he admitted he didn’t worry about the Constitution when legislating ObamaCare into law.
DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?
Even more astonishing, the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus admitted that the purpose of ObamaCare is as much about redistributing income—“sharing the wealth”—as it is about reforming health care:

“Health reform is ‘an income shift,’ Democratic Sen. Max Baucus said on March 25. ‘It is a shift, a leveling, to help lower income, middle income Americans.’

“In his halting, jumbled style, Baucus explained that in recent years ‘the maldistribution of income in America has gone up way too much, the wealthy are getting way, way too wealthy, and the middle income class is left behind.’ The new health care legislation, Baucus promised, ‘will have the effect of addressing that maldistribution of income in America.’”

Hand in hand with income redistribution and religious discrimination comes the iron fist of government and outright control of the people by bureaucrats, which Congressman John Dingell of Michigan admits will be the eventual consequence of ObamaCare. His only regret is that it will take so long to erect the mechanisms of control.

Religious Discrimination, IRS oversight of religion, blatant theft euphemized as “an income shift,” and control of the people with the threat of violence disguised as “law enforcement,” these are the purposes and consequences of ObamaCare as admitted by the very legislators who voted to enact it into law. By our representatives’ own words, the U.S. Congress has come completely un-tethered from the U.S. Constitution and gone off the rails.

This law must not stand.


DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?


All three great religions of Abraham hold theft as morally wrong. Forcibly taking the property of an innocent person and giving it to another person is theft, pure and simple, whether it is committed by an outlaw under the cover of darkness or by a politician under the color of law. ObamaCare is Theft.
Therefore, if the same logic applies by which the ObamaCare holds Sharia Law’s prohibition against gambling above the law of the land, so too should Christians and Jews be allowed to place the Eighth Commandment (Thou Shalt Not Steal) above the power of the state to expropriate property from innocent people in the name of income redistribution for “the greater good.”

Instead, ObamaCare replaces the Eighth Commandment of the Book of Exodus, which was inscribed on a stone tablet by the hand of God, with the Seventh Commandment from the Book of Orwell, Animal Farm, written on the wall of a barn: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
Muslims are given exemptions from laws everyone else has to follow, and this special privilege is justified as simply allowing them to freely exercise their religion; when average Americans demand to be allowed to live their lives without being oppressively regimented under the threat of violence from IRS goons, they are accused of demanding “special rights,” and denied the freedom of choice under the excuse of “serving the greater good.”
DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?
After Osama bin Laden destroyed the Twin Towers in the name of Allah, Christians and Jews across America rallied to prevent a backlash against innocent Muslims. In the great American tradition of religious freedom and tolerance and in defense of our cherished commitment to equal protection of the rule of law, Americans of all walks of life stood shoulder to shoulder with their peaceful Muslim brethren to prevent religious discrimination.

That is why freedom-loving, tolerant Americans are so outraged at the President of the United States and the U.S. Congress for conniving to drive a wedge between Muslims and the other two great religions of Abraham. In the greatest power grab of all time, President Obama and the U.S. Congress have pitted American against American, Christian against Muslim, Torah against the Koran. It is unconscionable.

This law must not stand.

DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?

The lucky few that get to OPT OUT of ObamaCare are not forced to buy healthcare insurance they don’t want, unlike most Americans; and, to top it off, they don’t have to pay the taxes or penalties associated with health care reform.

So while most Americans (that includes You!) will be required to purchase health care coverage deemed appropriate by President Obama and the government or face heavy fines, the privileged few such as Muslims get to OPT OUT.

Where is your OPT OUT?

Sign The National ObamaCare Opt Out (NOOO!) Registry and demand to be permitted to opt out of Obama’s socialized health-care mandate. Demand that your representatives put God’s Eighth Commandment above George Orwell’s Seventh Commandment. Demand that Congress keep the government out of your health care decisions. DEMAND EQUAL TREATMENT. Demand to be EXCLUDED from any government-run or mandated health care program and exempt from any and all taxes, fees, and mandates imposed to pay for it.

DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!
They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?

Let’s Get this Straight:

President Obama
Vice President Biden
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
White House Staff
Cabinet Secretaries
Congressional Staff*
American Indian Tribes
Christian Scientists

Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
Exempt from ObamaCare
NO Exemption
NO Exemption
NO Exemption
NO Exemption
NO Exemption

*Congressional staffers who wrote ObamaCare, staffers working in a leadership office or for a Congressional committee all receive an exemption.

DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!

They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?


How can a religious exemption include certain religions and not others? Whatever happened to Equal Protection of the Laws guaranteed in the United States Constitution?

Demand an Individual Opt Out Today!
President Obama and Lawmakers put themselves above the law. Now, certain special individuals are allowed to opt out too? It is unthinkable that socialized health care is MANDATED to you and NOT EVERYONE! A healthcare mandate nonetheless, shoved down your throat despite cries and protests against it.

This Law Must Not Stand.

DEMAND an Individual Opt-Out AMENDMENT!

They can OPT OUT, why can’t you?

Defend America,
Larry Hunter
Lawrence A. Hunter, Ph.D.
Social Security Institute 
15 Culpeper St. 
Warrenton VA, 20187

P.S. Please forward this email to EVERYONE that cares about this country.

The Social Security Institute (SSI) is a national, 501(c)(4) non-profit, non-partisan seniors’ advocacy organization working to promote the retirement security of today’s seniors and the seniors of tomorrow. SSI’s top policy priorities are to stop the raid on the Social Security Trust Funds, prevent cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits, and protect seniors from health care rationing and other limitations on their access to health care.

KEYWORDS: april; christians; muslims; obamacare; optout; patientoptout

1 posted on 04/06/2010 10:51:21 AM PDT by lward99

To: lward99

Why not an opt out on abortion grounds?

2 posted on 04/06/2010 10:53:48 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence)

To: lward99
This is the missing image
3 posted on 04/06/2010 10:55:07 AM PDT by lward99 (

To: lward99

As if Obamacare wasn’t unconstitutional enough on its basic merits, creating different categories of exclusion for groups based on their religion should be its death knell (in a sane world). Challenges can’t get before the Supreme Court soon enough.

4 posted on 04/06/2010 10:56:15 AM PDT by COgamer

To: lward99

I wonder if those that are allowed to opt out will be denied medical care should they need it.

5 posted on 04/06/2010 10:56:17 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)

To: lward99

Interesting that this is one of the first time we have actually seen congress pass a “law respecting establishment of religion” and it would probably be ruled ok by the Courts but a nativity scene in a grade school lobby wouldn’t.

6 posted on 04/06/2010 10:57:20 AM PDT by circlecity

To: lward99

Hell, we are all moslems now!

7 posted on 04/06/2010 10:57:32 AM PDT by parisa

To: lward99
conscientious objection”

Well I am a Roman Catholic and I have a conscientious objecton to abortion.

Add me to the list.

8 posted on 04/06/2010 11:01:28 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free baby.)

To: lward99
allowing any group special priveledge based on race religion or creed is against the constitution .

but then the US Constitution is no longer relevent it is merly a historical document

The new regime is now making and interpreting law from scratch

9 posted on 04/06/2010 11:01:55 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)

To: lward99


10 posted on 04/06/2010 11:02:22 AM PDT by Bitsy

To: lward99

I see many conversions on the horizon.

11 posted on 04/06/2010 11:04:08 AM PDT by JudyinCanada

To: lward99

Hmmmm, if I don’t buy, I’m a criminal, right?

Christian Scientists

Scientology seems the easiest to It is whatever I think it is. L. Ron Hubbard.

12 posted on 04/06/2010 11:05:19 AM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)

To: mware

the new Regime of Change will not aknowledge your “consciensctious objection” on the grounds that a woman has a right to choose

13 posted on 04/06/2010 11:09:11 AM PDT by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)

To: onyx
Hindus and Buddhists need not apply!
14 posted on 04/06/2010 11:09:23 AM PDT by WellyP

To: lward99

The premise is unconstitutional on it’s face and there is no wiggle room.

15 posted on 04/06/2010 11:10:19 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)

To: Bitsy

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were no elections in November. JMHO

16 posted on 04/06/2010 11:10:58 AM PDT by unkus

To: WellyP

Oh my, you’re right about that!

They were entirely omitted.

17 posted on 04/06/2010 11:11:57 AM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)

To: lward99

Christians too. The bill allows members of “Health Care Sharing Ministries” to be exempt. There a several Christian health care sharing ministries.

But don't let that stop people from panicking and having knee jerk reactions.

18 posted on 04/06/2010 11:14:48 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Are Christians allowed to eat deviled eggs?)

To: onyx
Don't forget he Jehovah Witness. They seem like peace loving people who don't mind being exempt.
19 posted on 04/06/2010 11:15:08 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)

To: Bitsy


New bumpersticker? ;)

20 posted on 04/06/2010 11:15:50 AM PDT by Chronically aghast in Florida (Thanks Mom (for not being a hippie chick)

To: lward99

“If you are a mainstream Christian or a Jew, you need not apply to Opt Out of ObamaCare; that exemption is reserved for Muslims, Scientologists, Amish, Christian Scientists and Native American Indians who have a “conscientious objection” to insurance. “

Does this mean I can declare I’ve found Amishness and opt out? I can pack up and move to Amish Country in a heartbeat.

21 posted on 04/06/2010 11:19:39 AM PDT by Chronically aghast in Florida (Thanks Mom (for not being a hippie chick)

To: KTM rider
Last time I checks Muslim were very against abortion too.

If they get a pass I want one too.

22 posted on 04/06/2010 11:22:08 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free baby.)

To: lward99

I understand that these organizations, are health sharing type plans that do allow CHRISTIANS to opt out. My family will find out what is going to happen to our health care in October, at the latest. We are seriously considering the following organizations. I have had Freepers comment on the first one as being the best of the three. I have no experience with any of them.

23 posted on 04/06/2010 11:31:22 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)

To: lward99
Whatever happened to:

"Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."?

24 posted on 04/06/2010 11:34:13 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)

To: lward99

My question is this: how many of those who will be exempt for religious reasons make up the “35 million uninsured” we keep hearing about? Prsumably none of them have had insurance up to now, since they do not believe in it. So how many will continue to be uninsured due to religious reasons?

25 posted on 04/06/2010 11:35:50 AM PDT by NEMDF

To: lward99
Dear Mr. President,

I have just become "Amish", please exempt me from obamacare.


PS# I will provide proof that I'm Amish when you provide proof you're a NBC.

26 posted on 04/06/2010 11:40:03 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)

To: lward99

If you opt out, does that mean you don’t pay the penalty for not getting a health insurance policy, and then if you get sick you can instantly opt in and instantly receive benefits. Crazy stuff!

27 posted on 04/06/2010 11:45:29 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)

To: lward99

This should be the basis for overturning it is the government recognizing some religions over others....the Liberals “Seperation of Church and State”

28 posted on 04/06/2010 11:45:55 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate

To: lward99

Who knew? A loophole.

29 posted on 04/06/2010 11:50:14 AM PDT by Mark was here (Fighting for freedom is never easy, especially when your enemies are merely fighting for free stuff.)

To: lward99

This is not true. Christian Scientists cannot opt out...our leadership has communicated this to all our members. Please correct this fallacy.

30 posted on 04/06/2010 11:51:23 AM PDT by Keith (We live in an America of National Socialism...sound familiar? It should...)

To: Sergio
When they need it, they simply apply for insurance. The insurance company cannot deny them.

Of course, under shariah law they may then be sentenced to be beheaded or stoned to death or whatever.

31 posted on 04/06/2010 11:52:01 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt

To: lward99

Of course Zero would leave himself a way out.....

32 posted on 04/06/2010 11:53:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase

To: lward99

Perhaps something needs to be clarified here. In the case of “opting-out” of benefits, does this also remove your obligation to support the program with your taxes?

My suspicion is no, and if this is the case you may be cutting off your nose to spite your face. You might still have to come up with all the bucks to support everyone else, but you cut yourself out of the benefits. Sure, you’re maintaining your principles, but your also getting screwed on your taxes.

Just askin’ the question.

Oh yeah, since I’m 1/4 Indian, do I have the option based on my “ethnic extraction”? If so, it will be the first time in my life I ever found it make any difference one way or the other. I’ve told folks I’d swap it for a lift ticket, but so far no takers. :-)

33 posted on 04/06/2010 11:55:39 AM PDT by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)

To: Mark was here
I am going to look into the new Amish/Islamist sect. All the exemptions you could ever want. They do use “horse bombs” however, which really s*cks for the horse.
34 posted on 04/06/2010 11:56:15 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)

To: UCFRoadWarrior

I don’t know about the other groups, but the Amish already have an exemption in place for Social Security. You can read the story here:

“Tucked into the 138 page bill was a clause exempting the Old Order Amish, and any other religious sect who conscientiously objected to insurance, from paying Social Security payments, providing that sect had been in existence since December 31, 1950.”

I would think there are constitutional grounds to challenge this law’s restriction to groups that have been in existence since 1950. It seems to be a law “respecting” certain religions over others if they make a distinction based on the age of the group.

I’m also curious if there is a similar exemption in the health care bill for ministers. Ministers can opt out of Social security on an individual exemption on wages paid by a church.

35 posted on 04/06/2010 11:58:30 AM PDT by mongrel

To: lward99

Native Americans have their own healthcare plan ... They do not have to opt out of anything.

36 posted on 04/06/2010 12:03:23 PM PDT by zeaal

To: cameraeye

I totally agree mware. Catholics should be exempt. Through taxes, the Government forces us to contribute to the practice of abortion.

37 posted on 04/06/2010 12:03:54 PM PDT by jerseyrocks

To: JustPiper; Arthur Wildfire! March

Ta Da

38 posted on 04/06/2010 1:00:09 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)

“I have been to all 57 states. One more to go.”

39 posted on 04/06/2010 1:01:02 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)

To: mware

I don’t think they’re actually against abortion, they just do it differently...I think they call them “honour killings”.

40 posted on 04/06/2010 1:02:54 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)

To: lward99

“Muslims believe that health insurance is ‘haraam,’ or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling. “

So what do they do about automobile insurance which is a requirement in many if not all places in the US?

41 posted on 04/06/2010 1:36:48 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)

To: DaxtonBrown

are they actually allowed to ask what the religious objection is? In my state of Maryland, there are religious objection forms you can sign to opt out of routine vaccinations etc. but they cannot ask you information as to “which” religion you belong to, as that is private.

I’m thinking it would be very much the same on the federal level?

42 posted on 04/06/2010 3:11:01 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)

To: lward99

This can’t be legal.

43 posted on 04/06/2010 4:10:19 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)

To: rdl6989
"This can’t be legal."

more importantly, it is not lawful. lawful is real. legal is fiction. look them up.

44 posted on 04/06/2010 4:12:40 PM PDT by Beloved Levinite (I have a new name for the occupier of The Oval Office: KING FRAUD! (pronounced King "Faa-raud"))

To: combat_boots

You were right. I never doubted you, FRiend.

45 posted on 04/07/2010 2:43:03 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)

To: All

Tuesday, April 27, 2010Claim: Scientologists, Amish, Christian Scientists, and Muslims will be exempt from requirements to obtain health insurance

Today I received an email from a family member asking if it is true that certain people of faith will not be required to comply with the healthcare mandate. Since this was the first time I’d heard this rumor, I went to to see what they had to say. So far, they claim that the answer to this question is “undetermined”. That’s not very comforting! Read on.

This is the email forwarded to me. I have attached links for further clarification.


Had never heard the word until now-—Type it into Google and start reading…Pretty interesting. Note that Muslims and certain other religions are exempt from the Obamacare penalties and it is supported by law. We are surrendering from within!

Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.

The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be “gambling”, “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient. So I, Ann B......, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims. Period. This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude serves two purposes: it enriches the muslim masters AND serves to drive conversions to islam. In this case, the incentive to convert to islam will be taken up by those in the inner-cities as well as the godless Generation X, Y and Z types who have no moral anchor. If you don’t believe in Christ to begin with, it is no problem whatsoever to sell Him for 30 pieces of silver. Lots of people will say “Sure, I’ll be a muslim if it means free health insurance and no taxes. Where do I sign, bro?”

According to, the recent healthcare legislation signed into law “does not include language which specifically exempts members of any particular religion from health insurance requirements. It includes a general “religious conscience” provision which may exempt some Americans from health insurance requirements if they are members of religions which have established objections to certain forms of insurance.” See Internal Revenue Code Definitions

See Religious Conscience Exemption, section 1311(d)(4)(H).

(H) subject to section 1411, grant a certification attesting that, for purposes of the individual responsibility penalty under section 5000A of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, an individual is exempt from the individual requirement or from the penalty imposed by such section because—
(i) there is no affordable qualified health plan available through the Exchange, or the individual’s employer, covering the individual; or
(ii) the individual meets the requirements for any other such exemption from the individual responsibility requirement or penalty.
Snopes further states:

Whether Muslims would qualify for an exemption from the health insurance requirements is a tougher call. Although Islam does have a tradition of barring conventional insurance products because they “involve an element of uncertainty, gambling and the charging of interest, which are prohibited by the Koran,” it does not have a tradition of spurning Social Security [like the Amish], which is viewed more as a form of caring for those who are unable to meet their own needs than as something which involves elements of uncertainty, gambling, and interest payments.
If the courts do not find the health care mandate to be unconstitutional, and if large numbers of people in religious groups are indeed exempt from the mandate and fines, America will experience a ferocious rift between its peoples. Obama will always be remembered as The Divider in Chief.

46 posted on 02/09/2011 5:23:07 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Trent Lott on Tea Party candidates: "As soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them" 7/19/10)

To: lward99

I think the Muslims may avoid Obamacare, but also have to opt out of SS.

But IMO I bet they get to opt out of Obamacare and yet find a way to suck onto the SS and medicare (Just watch).

47 posted on 09/29/2013 9:37:18 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)

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