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Samantha Kuberski, Six Years Old, Youngest Suicide Victim in Oregon State History
Seattle Weekly ^ | 4/05/10 | Caleb Hannan

Posted on 04/06/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Six-year-old Samantha Kuberski was a happy kid who did well at school. Which is why tragedy was compounded by shock back in January, when medical examiners in Yamhill County, south of Portland, declared Samantha's death a suicide, making her the youngest person to take her own life in Oregon's history.

On December 2, the first-grader was allegedly sent to her room after getting in a fight with her mom. While her mother and three sisters were in other parts of their McMinnville house, Samatha reportedly crawled into an unused crib that had no mattress or box spring, tied a cordurouy belt around her neck and onto the crib's top railing and hung herself.

Samantha was found unconscious and rushed to a hospital where she was pronounced dead. Her parents and siblings were later interviewed by police, who ruled out any foul play and said they found no signs that the young girl had ever been abused.

Now the only thing left to parse is what to call Samantha's tragic death. While the medical examiner has ruled it a suicide, detectives insist on calling it an accident, saying that a child that small could have no idea of the consequences of her actions, an argument backed up by adolescent psychiatrists like Dr. Kirk Wolfe.

"Most kids this age are not aware of what death actually is," he told the Yamhill Valley News-Register. "Not until they get to be 8, 9 and 10 do they understand death is final and you don't come back."


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...making her the youngest person to take her own life in Oregon's history.

Man, six years old... I'm surprised it doesn't say 'the youngest person to take her own life in the history of the planet.' Can't conceive of anyone that young doing that.

1 posted on 04/06/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Somehting is more than fishy


2 posted on 04/06/2010 3:44:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LibWhacker

Constantly thought about it at that age


3 posted on 04/06/2010 3:45:04 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: LibWhacker

She had to have learned the behavior somewhere.


4 posted on 04/06/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LibWhacker
How in God's name would a six year old even *know* about suicide or how to pull it off????
5 posted on 04/06/2010 3:45:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: LibWhacker

So sad. Prayers to her parents.


6 posted on 04/06/2010 3:46:00 PM PDT by wac3rd (SYCASUSE)
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To: LibWhacker

It’s true that six year olds have no concept of death.


7 posted on 04/06/2010 3:46:24 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: driftdiver

My 6 year old is continually tying things around her neck and is told to cut it out. I think the kid was playing and paid the ultimate price for not having common sense.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 3:47:14 PM PDT by Feasor13
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To: Flavius

Wow, Flav... sorry to hear that. HOpe things are better for you now.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 3:48:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Feasor13

Here in Dallas there was recently a 9-year old boy who killed himself because he was bullied at school.

These kinds of stories hit hard when you have kids that age.


10 posted on 04/06/2010 3:49:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LibWhacker; Flavius; pissant

The only thing I can think of is that this kid must have burdened with a tremendous sense of guilt. Some children are repeatedly told they are worthless, are bad kids always doing things wrong, and made to feel guilty for small transgressions or for even existing.

The family dynamics, how everyone in this family relates to one another, could be eye-opening.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 3:50:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Ever heard of Television? (not saying it is the fault of television)


12 posted on 04/06/2010 3:50:24 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: LibWhacker

1. If intentional, I wonder where she learned that?

2. When I was that old, I had no understanding that death was permanent. I thought it was like the RoadRunner cartoons where the coyote falls thousands of feet to his death and then is back chasing the bird mere seconds later.

So either the kid “committed suicide” but with no concept of what she was doing or she watched something on television and decided to act out the same way some children jump off rooftops to test their supposed ability to fly.


13 posted on 04/06/2010 3:51:20 PM PDT by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: lonestar

I had a pretty good concept of death when I was three.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 3:51:38 PM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Or someone killed her.


15 posted on 04/06/2010 3:52:28 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Feasor13

The roughest spanking my eldest daughter ever got was for tying something around her neck.

I think I broke the wooden spoon, in fact.


16 posted on 04/06/2010 3:53:12 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: LibWhacker

Happens that young every few years in Japan.

Bushido’s fault.


17 posted on 04/06/2010 3:53:46 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (NEW TAG ====> **REPEAL OR REBEL!** -- Islam Delenda Est! -- Rumble thee forth)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Movies TV etc....


18 posted on 04/06/2010 3:54:00 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Julia H.

The finality of death?


19 posted on 04/06/2010 3:54:24 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: SatinDoll

That has to be the case. No truly loved child entertains suicide at that age.


20 posted on 04/06/2010 3:54:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LibWhacker

I dont’ think she meant to kill herself.

Probably an accident.


21 posted on 04/06/2010 3:55:53 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Gay State Conservative

TV?


22 posted on 04/06/2010 3:56:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Julia H.

When I was three I had a concept of... tricycle. LOl!


23 posted on 04/06/2010 3:56:49 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: kabar

“Or someone killed her.”

Maybe mommy was more pissed at her than everyone thought.


24 posted on 04/06/2010 3:59:20 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat
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To: LibWhacker

The only lesson to learn from this story is that life is a horrible curse and nobody should exist in the first place.


25 posted on 04/06/2010 3:59:48 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: pissant

I’m not so sure. Depression is a horrible thing. It hits some people very early, and having a loving home life doesn’t make one immune.


26 posted on 04/06/2010 4:00:34 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Sorry...I can't believe that.What six year old..even if he/she saw suicides on TV,etc...would understand what they were seeing...would even understand the concept of death in a way that would result in this.
27 posted on 04/06/2010 4:02:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: balch3

She wasn’t a depressed kid, according to the story.


28 posted on 04/06/2010 4:02:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kabar

“Or someone killed her.”

This seems like more of a possibility than most on this forum or the article comments even seem to want to explore.


29 posted on 04/06/2010 4:02:48 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: pissant

maybe nobody knew she was depressed, and that was the problem.


30 posted on 04/06/2010 4:05:29 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Gay State Conservative

Children imitate what they see on TV and some times that can lead to a fatal result.


31 posted on 04/06/2010 4:09:07 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Gay State Conservative

Turn on your closest TV to answer your question.


32 posted on 04/06/2010 4:14:36 PM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: LibWhacker

Tragic for both the family and our culture.


33 posted on 04/06/2010 4:15:17 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: pissant

Yes, she must have seen someone doing something similar.


34 posted on 04/06/2010 4:17:50 PM PDT by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: OrangeHoof
the same way some children jump off rooftops to test their supposed ability to fly.

My brother and I jumped off the roof of our house while holding umbrellas, figuring they'd work like parachutes. (Fortunately we were both fine.)

35 posted on 04/06/2010 4:20:23 PM PDT by KJC1
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To: donna

I agree. It’s one thing to wrap something around one’s neck. It’s another to affix one end to the crib, wrap the other around the neck, climb up and over the rail....I have reasonable doubt on the coroner’s theory.


36 posted on 04/06/2010 4:22:08 PM PDT by HGSW0904
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To: LibWhacker
... hung hanged herself.
37 posted on 04/06/2010 4:23:32 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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Sorry....still not buying it.A six year old wouldn't have the faintest idea what they were watching and,thus,would learn nothing from having watched it.

*Six years old*....that's the key.

38 posted on 04/06/2010 4:34:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: LibWhacker

I was tutoring six year old twins after their school day.

A note came home advising that one of their classmates had died and the parents should discuss this with their children.

When I mentioned to the boys that Jon had gotten very sick over the weekend and died they told me the teacher had told them that but they were sure that Jon would be back in school on Monday.


39 posted on 04/06/2010 4:55:21 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: LibWhacker
Where did all the editors go? She hanged herself. She would have needed to have injected herself with megadoses of testosterone to have hung herself.
40 posted on 04/06/2010 4:57:46 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My daughter is 7 and is sometimes morbidly obsessed with death. We are completely “normal” people and cover the issue of death in age appropriate manner. Some people are simply different and have been since the womb.


41 posted on 04/06/2010 5:03:00 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: KJC1
My brother and I jumped off the roof of our house while holding umbrellas, figuring they'd work like parachutes. (Fortunately we were both fine.)

I thought my sister and I were the only kids dumb enough to try that stunt.

P.S. the landing is no softer if you are wearing a cape either.

42 posted on 04/06/2010 5:05:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: pissant

“No truly loved child entertains suicide at that age.”

I don’t think that’s true.


43 posted on 04/06/2010 5:05:45 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
How in God's name would a six year old even *know* about suicide or how to pull it off????

What is not infomercial time on my cable TV is mainly murder, suicide, and other such 'blood' drama. Not hard for any child to be exposed to either the concept nor the methodology, in fact, it takes paying attention to avoid giving them a nightly dose of slaughter.

44 posted on 04/06/2010 5:06:44 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: agooga

I think it is absolutely true


45 posted on 04/06/2010 5:07:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m not buying it either. Most six year olds can’t tie knots by themselves, and need help fastening their belts. Not to mention needing help tying the laces on their shoes.

Also, most normal six year olds wouldn’t climb into a baby crib willingly. They usually transition to sleeping in a bed before that age. And if a six year old was using a crib as a hiding place, they would most likely hide under the crib, not inside it.

No, I suspect what happened is the poor girl was sent to the crib as punishment. Someone must have tied her inside the crib with a belt around the neck to keep her inside the crib... and as she tried to escape the crib, she accidentally hung herself. This is not likely a suicide. Samantha Kuberski, six years old, was murdered accidentally, either by her parents or perhaps one of her siblings. This is definitely a murder case.


46 posted on 04/06/2010 5:09:45 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: donna

Or, a kook suggested it to her


47 posted on 04/06/2010 5:10:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: agooga
My daughter is 7 and is sometimes morbidly obsessed with death. We are completely “normal” people and cover the issue of death in age appropriate manner.

Geeze...when I was 7 the only two things that meant anything to me was if my mother was fixing lima beans for supper and when the next cowboy show was on the tube.Either I was exceptionally stupid or your daughter is exceptionally "deep".

48 posted on 04/06/2010 5:10:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: pissant

You don’t know everything, FRiend.


49 posted on 04/06/2010 5:10:59 PM PDT by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: o2bfree

Could it be someone smothered her with a pillow, THEN hanged her there?


50 posted on 04/06/2010 5:12:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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