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No fries with that: fast food axed at Afghan bases
Yahoo News (Reuters) ^ | April 5, 2010 | Deepa Babington

Posted on 04/06/2010 8:00:33 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian

KANDAHAR AIRFIELD, Afghanistan (Reuters) – Fast food joints where soldiers wolf down burgers and pizza will soon be a thing of the past at bases in Afghanistan, as the U.S. military reminds soldiers they are at war and not in "an amusement park."

In the sprawling military base at Kandahar, the fast food outlets facing the axe include Burger King, Pizza Hut, and the U.S. chain restaurant T.G.I. Friday's that features a bar with alcohol-free margaritas and other drinks -- all set along the bustling "Boardwalk" area of the base.

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The U.S. military says its beef with the burger joints is that they take up valuable resources like water, power, flight and convoy space and that cutting back on non-essentials is key to running an efficient military operation.

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Warning that concessions like Orange Julius, Dairy Queen and Military Car Sales were also on the exit list, Hall said less-obvious changes were coming too -- including fewer canned and bottled goods coming into the country as well as fewer first-run movie showings and some entertainment programs.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; justdamn; killmorale; military; morale; thekenyan
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I have a question. How do first-run movies affect supply lines?
1 posted on 04/06/2010 8:00:33 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

R and R is a vital part of combat operations, so far as I’ve been schooled.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 8:03:02 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A gentleman in the drawing room; a rapist in the boudoir.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

That’s right, lower that morale! Good move, Commander-in-Cheese.


3 posted on 04/06/2010 8:03:38 PM PDT by MIlle
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To: Cheap_Hessian

...no surprise here....one of the lessons of Vietnam was that the American military goes into a theater of war at the highest possible materiale level....then it IMMEDIATELY sets about to upgrade itself.


4 posted on 04/06/2010 8:04:40 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Cheap_Hessian
The two things that need to be taken away are the asinine, troop killing ROEs and the Commander in Chief.
5 posted on 04/06/2010 8:05:25 PM PDT by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Way to boost morale!!!

I guess the Modern Army travels on Hope and Change and not on its stomach (as has been said for over 2,000 years).

Can this regime end soon enough?


6 posted on 04/06/2010 8:05:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Craven spirits wear their master's collars but real men would rather feed the battlefield's vultures)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Wonder if the mess halls still serve steak and lobster?


7 posted on 04/06/2010 8:05:43 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

This is the type of military command stupidity that usually only can be found in a M*A*S*H episode. Decision reversed in 5 . . . . 4 . . . . 3 . . . . 2 . . . .


8 posted on 04/06/2010 8:06:19 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Destroy America, destroy the economy, destroy health care, destroy the dollar, destroy military morale, destroy everyone’s retirement, destroy apple pie, etc., a never ending list. Just something else that has Zero’s filthy fingerprints all over it.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 8:07:57 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
I remember Stephen Ambrose writing about General Taylor not giving troops in Belgium (Battle of the Bulge) their winter clothes because he wanted them to be motivated to fight to end the war.

Apparantly he's still in the army.

10 posted on 04/06/2010 8:08:51 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LibWhacker

I didn’t think it was possible, but I hate this administration more - each and every day.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 8:09:51 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Especially as compared to second-run movies.


12 posted on 04/06/2010 8:10:08 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
R and R is a vital part of combat operations, so far as I’ve been schooled.

R an R to Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal consists of 8 mile runs.

13 posted on 04/06/2010 8:11:40 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: LibWhacker

That is exactly what those who voted for obama voted for. They asked for it and they got it.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 8:11:54 PM PDT by sport
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To: Cheap_Hessian

This is crazy, it’s a deliberate effort to demoralize the troops.

These people are the last people that need to be lectured about being in a war. Having something small yet enjoyable - a piece of pizza, etc, in frickin AFGHANISTAN doesn’t suddenly make the person forget where they are or somehow take their focus off what they’re doing.

R & R is important to let these guys decompress a bit. Otherwise they’ll burn out and be no good for themselves or anyone else. If a little pizza or a movie from home can help keep people uplifted while in a crappy place doing a crappy job almost all others wouldn’t, then that should be done and recognized as a positive thing for the troops.


15 posted on 04/06/2010 8:13:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Heh, that’s pretty funny.


16 posted on 04/06/2010 8:14:28 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Sure he respects the troops. Maybe he thought they had too much when he dropped in a couple of weeks ago. They need to spread the wealth a bit, doncha know.


17 posted on 04/06/2010 8:15:59 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Considering that the troops in Afghanistan are in the peak of physical condition, an occasional burger would do little in any negative way. At the same time, the occasional burger (reminder of home) has to be a great morale buster.


18 posted on 04/06/2010 8:16:14 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Cheap_Hessian; xzins

Obama: “Let ‘em eat $#I+ on a shingle.”


19 posted on 04/06/2010 8:17:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Oh, H! First runs aren't that great for them; it reminds'em of what they're missing back home!

Let'm be reminded of why they're there. Let'em watch Jack Lemon & Sandy Dennis in The Out of Towners (Oh, my Gawd!) a few dozen times; that'll surely boost morale!

Chip, chip, chip...CRACK!
The sounds of Barack
Working with the Change Gang
Hoping to make America hang!

20 posted on 04/06/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: LibWhacker

I add one more: Destroy the Christian Church.


21 posted on 04/06/2010 8:23:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: nolongerademocrat

That was on Sunday’s......
When I first arrived @ Anaconda (now Joint Base Balad) in ‘04’- Friday night was pork chop night. Not many saw the irony there.......Fridays are the muzzie goin’to meetin’ days - so we served pork.
Go figure.


22 posted on 04/06/2010 8:24:43 PM PDT by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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To: LibWhacker

Bush wasn’t much better


23 posted on 04/06/2010 8:25:28 PM PDT by element92
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To: Cheap_Hessian

This is purely to demoralize.

I suspect contract obligations will delay implementation of this BS


24 posted on 04/06/2010 8:32:06 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: element92

Bush wasn’t much better

O rly?


25 posted on 04/06/2010 8:32:13 PM PDT by GQuagmire ( We are no longer Massholes)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
And this Hall fellow is just the messenger.
In case anyone missed it, McClatchey reported two weeks ago this is from General Stanley McChrystal himself.

By the order of Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, the International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF, is shutting down most of these reminders of home.

"This is a war zone - not an amusement park," Command Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall recently wrote on the ISAF blog.

Please note that Sergeant Major Hall is the messenger (whether he agreees or not is irrellevant).

According to the source at a previous FR post:

General Stanley McChrystal, the former commander of Special Forces in Iraq, who runs eight miles a day, eats one meal and sleeps for only four hours a night, has given orders to close the junk food concessions on Nato bases.

This is possibly a case of Queeg Syndrome.

I shall reserve judgement.

26 posted on 04/06/2010 8:32:17 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: jonrick46

Yep. Destroy capitalism, destroy marriage... He doesn’t just want to see America defeated, he wants every virtue America stood for, and every characteristic that distinguishes this country from other countries to be utterly wiped from the face of the earth. The man is the Devil himself.


27 posted on 04/06/2010 8:33:19 PM PDT by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: BuckyKat

Well, Obamao’s Regime did ban fast food in school lunch programs so in the spirit of equality, Soldiers should also forego things such items.

It’s only fair to treat them the same as school kids after all.

Have to wonder if he saw those shops and flipped and sent a rocket to McChrystal to remove them asap?


28 posted on 04/06/2010 8:33:52 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Especially after 5 tours.

Time to up the supplies via the FReeper canteen.

Contact Kathyinalaska.


29 posted on 04/06/2010 8:36:25 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: P-Marlowe
Shit on a shingle is still considered a delicacy by some of we old timers.
30 posted on 04/06/2010 8:36:29 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: BuckyKat

I guess only Obama deserves Waygu Beef.


31 posted on 04/06/2010 8:37:53 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
No poogie bait ? That is un-American .
32 posted on 04/06/2010 8:39:51 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Just damn!

Obama and his perfumed princes are doing all they can to destroy morale over there.


33 posted on 04/06/2010 8:41:52 PM PDT by Palladin (Regroup, Resist, Reload, Repeat!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Let ‘em eat $#I+ on a shingle.

Hey, I love SOS, the best meal in the messhall when I was in. As an interesting aside, my son just returned from Afghanistan and said the base at Kandahar had a lot of pouges sitting around doing nothing, so that may be the reason. I’ll have him check it out when he returns Friday. Semper Fi


34 posted on 04/06/2010 8:47:09 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: verity
Shit on a shingle is still considered a delicacy by some of we old timers.

Seeing the prices of a jar of chipped beef in store, I have had to forgo such luxuries.

Even Spam is getting outrageous, at $3.50 for a 12 oz can.

It's cheaper buy, and suffer with, boneless pork loins, boneless USDA Choice beef sirloin roasts, legs of lamb.

35 posted on 04/06/2010 8:47:40 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: skeptoid

Thanks for the information.


36 posted on 04/06/2010 8:47:55 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: gunner03

What I hear was that it was the nato pogues laying about playing xbox.

Our Men do the heavy lifting.


37 posted on 04/06/2010 8:49:00 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: freedumb2003
This is coming from ISAF Command Sgt. Major.

"This is a war zone -- not an amusement park," Command Sgt. Maj. Michael Hall wrote in a blog earlier this year.

Personally, I think this guy is off his rocker. Seems to think that the troops gotta suffer to make war more warlike. (Maybe he'll take it to the next level and start randomly shooting his troops to have them undergo a more 'realistic' sniper training during whatever downtime they get.)

38 posted on 04/06/2010 8:50:59 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Who axed Obama to do this?


39 posted on 04/06/2010 8:51:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ApplegateRanch

You should treat yourself to Stouffer’s creamed chipped beef once in awhile. It’s 2 or 3 bucks, you heat it in the micro, put it on a couple pieces of toast—mmmmmm, good!


40 posted on 04/06/2010 8:51:57 PM PDT by Palladin (Regroup, Resist, Reload, Repeat!)
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To: MIlle

The floggings will continue until morale improves.


41 posted on 04/06/2010 8:55:20 PM PDT by elisheba
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To: gogogodzilla; skeptoid; freedumb2003

I stand corrected on my previous post.

It’s not coming from the Command Sgt. Major, but General McCrystal. Though the sentiment remains - directed at the ISAF General.


42 posted on 04/06/2010 8:56:17 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
SOS would probably kill me now; however, it was absolutely delicious on those cold mornings in Germany in the early 60’s. :-)
43 posted on 04/06/2010 8:56:53 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Palladin

I love that stuff. Every time it goes on sale, I’m there!


44 posted on 04/06/2010 8:59:13 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: gogogodzilla

Roger that


45 posted on 04/06/2010 9:00:19 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: Palladin

The only thing I will say, is that the staff people at HQ get to enjoy these things, while most of the troops in the field never see them.
I wouldn’t deny the troops these things, but we do need to do more for the grunts out in the dirt.
By the way..my Dad nearly lost his feet to frost bite before the Battle of the Bulge. No dry socks were available pinned down by German fire. Fortunately, he was evacuated because there was an empty space on a med evac DC-3..the day before the Bulge.


46 posted on 04/06/2010 9:00:56 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: gunner03

Problem I find with the infantry and others is that they can’t seem to differentiate between the pogues and those whose skills are too d@mn valuable to send out on convoys and raids.

Intel and medical for example. If you send the intel guys out, then you’ve just gouged out your eyes and burned out your ears... for you no longer have anyone looking to find the enemy we’re supposed to be fighting.

And medical... well, if their sent out, whose going to be there to patch you up if you’re hurt?


47 posted on 04/06/2010 9:02:45 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: skeptoid
. . . and the instant i hit POST, I thought: could Obongo be the source??

I seriously doubt the Kenyan IS behind this, but . . . .

48 posted on 04/06/2010 9:03:25 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: padre35
Have to wonder if he saw those shops and flipped and sent a rocket to McChrystal to remove them asap?

That was certainly my husband's thought - that he made McChrystal take the heat for something he saw and thought excessive and "unfair" to the troops at the front.

Hubby was in Kuwait for a few months at one of the stopping points for coming and going to Iraq. The ones heading into battle and those returning LOVED the better facilities and the taste of home. Removing it doesn't make it "fair" for all of them, it makes it "unfair" for all of them. The contractors won't go open one out where they will only get minimal business and take the larger chances of getting blown up.

As always the liberal mindset is to bring everybody DOWN to the same level.

49 posted on 04/06/2010 9:06:51 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: gogogodzilla

From what I understand, mostly Airdales and supply, although my son doesn’t say much.


50 posted on 04/06/2010 9:12:51 PM PDT by gunner03
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