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Reporter's notebook: What really happens at Tea Party rallies
CNN ^ | April 7, 2010 | Shannon Travis

Posted on 04/07/2010 12:05:43 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CNN) -- When it comes to the Tea Party movement, the stereotypes don't tell the whole story.

Here's what you often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: offensive posters blasting President Obama and Democratic leaders; racist rhetoric spewed from what seems to be a largely white, male audience; and angry protesters rallying around the Constitution.

Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver. The incidents made national headlines, and they provided Tea Party opponents with fodder to question the movement.

But here's what you don't often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper.

Last week, I saw all of this during a five-city Western swing as the Tea Party Express national tour made its way across the country. CNN was along for the ride, and I was charged with planning CNN's coverage for five stops in two states: St. George, Provo and Salt Lake City, Utah; and Grand Junction and Denver, Colorado.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


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1 posted on 04/07/2010 12:05:44 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In other words, normal folks.


2 posted on 04/07/2010 12:06:22 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl

No, not NORMAL according to CNN. We’re PATRIOTS, and that ain’t normal. It’s really funny the way this woman acts SO SURPRISED that people are actually nice to her. What an idiot. They sure live in an ivory tower. They sure have no idea what this thing really is.


3 posted on 04/07/2010 12:07:36 PM PDT by wildwood (TeaPartyatPerrysburg)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
offensive posters blasting President Obama and Democratic leaders

Never saw this during the Bush presidency did we?

4 posted on 04/07/2010 12:07:53 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Unions are the storm troopers of socialism.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Article appears to try to be fair, but didn’t mention that neither the shouting of racial slurs nor the spitting has proven to be true, even though used as a “case in point”.


5 posted on 04/07/2010 12:08:35 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver

It never happened, of course. But they will never ever stop stating it as a fact.

6 posted on 04/07/2010 12:09:12 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

From her article: “opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver.”

NO, YOU DID NOT SEE THIS.

It DID NOT HAPPEN.


7 posted on 04/07/2010 12:09:32 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver.

Evidence, please. There is a 100K reward waiting for you.

8 posted on 04/07/2010 12:09:38 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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To: Domandred

It doesn’t matter to them if its true or not, it is now an established fact that will be mentioned in every story on the TEA parties. Notice they never mention Kenneth Gladney getting beat up.


9 posted on 04/07/2010 12:10:25 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Ben Mugged

We could make a movie about NOT making a movie about the assassination of our president. What would they say about that?

Today’s Socialists are just as dangerous as all the socialists before them. Everything is somebody else’s fault, all their competitors must be hated, all the competitors are “stupid.”


10 posted on 04/07/2010 12:11:19 PM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver

Nonsense!
This has been repeatedly proven to be false, yet CNN keeps repeating these falsehoods anyways. Andrew Breitbart went as far as to offer $100,000 for any of these Democrats (who all had video cameras), to being proof of racist epithets and up till now, no one has accepted the challenge.

11 posted on 04/07/2010 12:11:33 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not a bad article, except for the allegation of the racial slur being reported as fact.


12 posted on 04/07/2010 12:12:18 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They should post the email addresses for these reporters


13 posted on 04/07/2010 12:12:58 PM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver."

Hmmmm... the journalist for this story gets an EPCI FAIL from me for reporting unsubstantiated allegations as fact.

14 posted on 04/07/2010 12:14:24 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver.

How many more times are we going to see this lie repeated???????????????????????????
15 posted on 04/07/2010 12:15:27 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis

Lewis lied.

16 posted on 04/07/2010 12:15:39 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: Free ThinkerNY

freakin’ O’Reilly, Steele have really sunk us with their respect for Lewis. How come none are asking the other black reps who surrounded him to account?

Isn’t the Breitbart award for finding evidence at $100K?


17 posted on 04/07/2010 12:16:23 PM PDT by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: Domandred

How is the article supposedly trying to be fair when they start right off telling the same lie.

When they accuse Tea partiers of racism. I have been to a couple and havent heard any racism.

They consider anyone who doesnt with Obama as racist , and that is Horse dung.


18 posted on 04/07/2010 12:16:40 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Domandred

Article appears to try to be fair, but didn’t mention that neither the shouting of racial slurs nor the spitting has proven to be true, even though used as a “case in point”.
****
True that.

Notwithstanding the obvious misstatements already pointed out on this thread, it is otherwise noteworthy in its description of the proceedings (considering the source).

The ‘the other side’ is acknowledging that TEA has become a valid “political movement”, and it NOT exclusionary.


19 posted on 04/07/2010 12:17:05 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not diggin' this tyranny thing.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“But here’s what you don’t often see in the coverage of Tea Party rallies: Patriotic signs professing a love for country; mothers and fathers with their children; African-Americans proudly participating; and senior citizens bopping to a hip-hop rapper.”

Shannon will be called in for an “orientating session” with her bosses at CNN.

But she did at least get in the obligatory “racial slurs” and “spitting” stories (lies). That shows she has some promise within CNN.


20 posted on 04/07/2010 12:18:29 PM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This lying will not stop until they are hauled into court and sued. Anything short of a conviction and $$$ paid to every TEA party member will stop the Big Lie.


21 posted on 04/07/2010 12:19:59 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: All
Has anyone been able to find an email address for Shannon Travis (the CNN producer that published this article)?

I'd like to send her a more or less positive note, but point out that her "case in point" reported as fact is anything but fact.

22 posted on 04/07/2010 12:20:11 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Looks to me as if CNN wants to do something about boosting their terrible ratings; I say the hell with them- don’t watch, don’t click on their web site, and let them continue to sink.


23 posted on 04/07/2010 12:20:18 PM PDT by Clarence
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To: Tzimisce
How many more times are we going to see this lie repeated???????????????????????????

CNN and the 0bama lamestream media are students of history apparently.

Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
— Adolf Hitler

24 posted on 04/07/2010 12:20:33 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: BonRad

That elitist O’Rielly has never been a big fan of the Tea Parties.

He is just mad that the rallies aren’t called, “The Who’s Looking Out For You?” rallies.


25 posted on 04/07/2010 12:22:21 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not a bad article considering the source.

“There were a few signs that could be seen as offensive to African-Americans. But by and large, no one I spoke with or I heard from on stage said anything that was approaching racist.

Almost everyone I met was welcoming to this African-American television news producer.”


26 posted on 04/07/2010 12:24:06 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Again, another disinfranchised liberal reporter climbs on the Anti-TEA wagon with a boring re-write of lies already published time and time again. It's getting where there is not use to even look, you KNOW it's from CNN or NYT.

Insofar as his assertion that there were "no patriotic signs" and "no families"...well, I've got dozens of pictures displaying both taken at the last DC rally.

As far as that "Rocky Horror Picture Show"-like reenactment of a "civil rights march" (they all want to be the next MLK it appears) through the TEA party crowd with Pelosi and her cartoon-size gavel, I've never seen a more blatent, "I dare you" moment in my life...those people were out to provoke and incident from the start, and when it didn't happen for them, they MADE IT UP...it's as simple as that and they have no proof to the contrary.
kangarangel

Insofar as Cleaver goes...well...

detector


27 posted on 04/07/2010 12:28:14 PM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: NTHockey

>This lying will not stop until they are hauled into court and sued. Anything short of a conviction and $$$ paid to every TEA party member will stop the Big Lie.

What would that be? A class-action libel/slander/defamation suit?


28 posted on 04/07/2010 12:28:27 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Tzimisce
How many more times are we going to see this lie repeated???????????????????????????

Are you sure it's a lie? I'm not. I'm sure, in fact, that there are a few idiots in the Tea Party rallies who would and probably did do exactly what was alleged.

The key here is not to call it "lies," because somebody will be sure to uncover or even manufacture a documented example. And then you'd be toast.

Instead, it's necessary to convince people that those idiots are very much marginal characters who absolutely do not represent the vast majority of the people who are protesting in these rallies.

This particular issue highlights the fundamental problem facing the Tea Party movement right now: its intentionally decentralized nature pretty much precludes any means by which the movement can create a public image for itself -- who it represents, and what it stands for.

The movement's public image is therefore created by those who report on it. And many, if not most, of the reporters are hostile.

29 posted on 04/07/2010 12:30:13 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It would be fun to visit the “other side of the looking glass” world leftists live in.


30 posted on 04/07/2010 12:30:18 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Free ThinkerNY

31 posted on 04/07/2010 12:30:43 PM PDT by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Except this reporter has NO EVIDENCE that any racial slurs took place.

And she must know about Bretbart's bounty. Stopped reading right there. May CNN lose more audience share.

32 posted on 04/07/2010 12:34:55 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Employers--lay off Obama voters first)
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To: icwhatudo
It's not a bad article, no. Just wish she'd left out the obligatory whack at the Tea Parties about that non-existent "N" word insult on the black congressmen. But hey, she's gotta keep her job at CNN I guess. She may even be called to the boss's office for a little private chat over this one.
33 posted on 04/07/2010 12:35:14 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Free ThinkerNY

34 posted on 04/07/2010 12:38:32 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver.

CNN is still pushing that lie.

35 posted on 04/07/2010 12:38:57 PM PDT by TankerKC (I think P. T. Barnum had his time off by about 59 seconds.)
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I’m sure, in fact, that there are a few idiots in the Tea Party rallies who would and probably did do exactly what was alleged.,/i>

And your evidence is?
We have plenty of tapes covering every second of that walk by these black congressmen. There is no racist epithet anywhere.
There is a $100,000 reward for you if you can provide the evidence to back up your accusation, buddy, so let's see it.

36 posted on 04/07/2010 12:39:40 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Context is your friend. Read my whole comment, and get back to me with a real response.


37 posted on 04/07/2010 12:40:51 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

>> I’m sure, in fact, that there are a few idiots

Are you sure it’s a fact, or are you just speculating?

There’s NO proof this occurred - to the contrary, there’s evidence of a motive to fabricate the allegations.

Until evidence of uncivil behavior surfaces, there’s no need to isolate the group from it.


38 posted on 04/07/2010 12:41:10 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: r9etb

Breitbart has offered 10k to ANYONE who can prove it true.

I believe he later raised the reward offer.

To date, NO ONE has yet come forward with proof.

And when you report something as true but you can’t prove, it’s called “slander” and “libel” and it’s a crime. Again - the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accusee.

If it really is true, let them prove it. Otherwise, don’t say it.


39 posted on 04/07/2010 12:42:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: SmokingJoe

And that’s what’s going to happen here, everyone is going to start to believe the falsehood.


40 posted on 04/07/2010 12:43:13 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Case in point: During the health care debate last month, opponents shouted racial slurs at civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis and one person spit on Missouri Rep. Emanuel Cleaver. The incidents made national headlines, and they provided Tea Party opponents with fodder to question the movement."

... so no need to read any further. That's a LIE and BrietBart is offering $100,000 if they can PROVE the LIE.

41 posted on 04/07/2010 12:44:45 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: r9etb
Context is your friend

The dreaded “nuance”(as way to dodge facing facts) strikes again huh?

This is what you said, and I quote:
“I’m sure, in fact, that there are a few idiots in the Tea Party rallies who would and probably did do exactly what was alleged

Just provide the evidence will you?

42 posted on 04/07/2010 12:45:11 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Tzimisce; r9etb
And that’s what’s going to happen here, everyone is going to start to believe the falsehood.”

Our friend “r9etb” already has.

43 posted on 04/07/2010 12:46:52 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Gene Eric
Yes, I'm speculating -- but very confident I'm correct. There are idiots everywhere, including in the Tea Party rallies.

But here's the deal. You folks are working very, VERY hard to miss the real point here, which is that the media are busy creating your public image for you, and you have no way to fight back.

The Tea Party movement is going to find it self marginalized as a bunch of loons, unless and until it can get some sort of centralized structure in place to manage a coherent message.

All you've got now is energy ... which is great, except that it's not focused. In politics, unfocused energy belongs to whoever can put their own spin on it -- even your opponents -- which is what you see happening now.

44 posted on 04/07/2010 12:47:12 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: astyanax

Very interesting stats.


45 posted on 04/07/2010 12:48:20 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: SmokingJoe
Our friend “r9etb” already has....

... told you what you need to do if the Tea Party movement is not to get written off as a bunch of racist loons. You're just being stupid now.

46 posted on 04/07/2010 12:48:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Are you sure it's a lie?

It is a lie and yes, I'm sure. We were there.

47 posted on 04/07/2010 12:51:43 PM PDT by RedMDer (0 = one D Ten T : Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: r9etb
No racist epithet used against any black congressmen when they walked through the Tea Party protesters at the capitol.
You claim there was such an occurrence, you prove it.
And hey? There is $100,000 waiting for ya if you can provide the evidence.
You don't have the evidence, you stop making the accusations.
48 posted on 04/07/2010 12:52:51 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
The dreaded “nuance”(as way to dodge facing facts) strikes again huh?

Uh, no. It's a way of telling you that you somehow failed to understand the point being made.

But hell ... you go on ahead and let CNN create your image for you, pal, and keep crying because they're "lying." As long as you keep doing that, you and your Tea Party friends are going to come out looking like a bunch of loons.

Unless you can find some way to present a coherent message to the public. And that means giving up your stupid insistence on being a bunch decentralized, un-coordinated protest rallies.

This is politics, FRiend, and in politics the battle goes to those who are organized.

49 posted on 04/07/2010 12:53:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: RedMDer
It is a lie and yes, I'm sure. We were there.

Right by the fellows in question, the entire time, right? Standing guard, checking for lies all day..... Wow. That's a big relief.

50 posted on 04/07/2010 12:54:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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