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New Duke Policy Renders Students Unwitting Rapists
Foundation for Individual Rights in Education ^ | April 7, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 04/07/2010 12:13:32 PM PDT by abb

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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“Well hell the good people at Duke certainly know about Rape”

Actually, the faculty and administration at Duke really experts about non-rape. When you think about it, the rules are quite hilarious.

Yes, only the best and brightest populate the sacred halls of our “elite” universities...


21 posted on 04/07/2010 12:35:23 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Marty62

Duke has football?


22 posted on 04/07/2010 12:35:35 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a blessing to live in the Ozarks.)
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To: abb

I read the policy and it doesn’t seem too bad.

http://www.thefire.org/index.php/article/11723.html

The part about “real or perceived differentials in power may create an atmosphere of unintentional coercion” is not part of the definition of sexual misconduct, but rather part of the statement of principles.

Also, I would think this would refer to teacher/student, coach/athlete or other such relationships, where one party has power over the other intimidation might be used to get “consent”, not to the ridiculous NCAA basketball champion scenario, put forth in the article. No reaasonable person would conclude that a star athlete has the power to compel every woman on campus to have sex with him.

At any rate Duke is a private university and can make its own rules. Nobody has a “right” to attend Duke or any other private school. If Duke wanted to ban all sexual activity on campus, it would have every right to do so.


23 posted on 04/07/2010 12:38:09 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: abb

It would serve the Duke women right to be totally shut off by Duke guys, no more dates, totally shunned by guys in private and public settings, no women as lab partners or study groups with guys, not even a “hi” from any Duke guys whether in classes, in a student union, or out at a bar, dance, or party.

The guys should get theirs from non-Duke women and off campus.


24 posted on 04/07/2010 12:50:43 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: abb

Considering that these folks are the same ones who say that racism is NOT a two way street because blacks don’t have “power,” it probably means that only whites will be ensnared in this faux-rape trap.


25 posted on 04/07/2010 12:51:01 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: abb

Does this same rule apply to Duke professors who pimp out and rape their adopted sons?


26 posted on 04/07/2010 12:52:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: abb

So under this policy, if two college kids get drunk and scr**, and one of them weighs 180 lbs while the other is 140, the “more powerful” one can now be a rapist by dint of the “power.” Even though they were both stinking drunk and, at the time, consenting.

Cloud cuckoo-land.


27 posted on 04/07/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Probably looks like Helen Thomas or Masters critic Martha Burk (please, no photos).


28 posted on 04/07/2010 12:53:20 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: abb; wagglebee
Duke University has instituted a new "sexual misconduct" policy that can render a student guilty of non-consensual sex simply because he or she is considered "powerful" on campus.

But even NOW defended Bill Clinton's sexual exploitation of a young college co-ed working at the White House.

29 posted on 04/07/2010 12:53:29 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Solitar

I love it. Like Lysistrata with a gender reversal.


30 posted on 04/07/2010 12:53:37 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: abb

Parents! Are you really sure you want to pay through the nose for that college diploma?


31 posted on 04/07/2010 12:54:43 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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32 posted on 04/07/2010 12:55:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: abb
So they're also, by default, admitting that a female (I hesitate to call any of them real 'women') could be a rapist?

Give political correctness enough rope, and eventually ...
33 posted on 04/07/2010 12:56:05 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: abb

I was on the Duke Campus Saturday. Prominent all over are Daglo green emergency call boxes. The folks at Duke are very much afraid of something or somebody.

The irony of all the call boxes is that they are good for reporting a rape, but do nothing to stop it.

Duke with call boxes is like Obama with hugs and kisses to the enemies. Neither accomplish the purpose. Both probab bly are top attract money


34 posted on 04/07/2010 1:00:15 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
“At any rate Duke is a private university and can make its own rules.”

No; it must follow state, federal, and Constitutional law just like the rest of us. For example, Duke cannot make rules that place unreasonable restrictions on speech, personal associations, etc.

35 posted on 04/07/2010 1:01:10 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: abb
Duke's vastly overbroad definition of non-consensual sex puts nearly every student at risk of being found guilty of sexual misconduct.

I have a feeling that it will only be male, heterosexual students, who will be at any risk. If I were a young guy on that campus, I would stay celebrate while there. Don't mess with any of the co-eds under any circumstances. Save it for when you go home on vacation and look up the old high school sweethearts.

36 posted on 04/07/2010 1:02:22 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Solitar

“The guys should get theirs from non-Duke women ...”

They already do - at UNC, 12 miles south on US 15/501.


37 posted on 04/07/2010 1:02:49 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Wow. You might want to familiarize yourself with the outrageous and illegal behavior of Duke faculty and staff during the whole Duke Lax case. Perhaps then you might recognize that a) they (the powers that be at Duke) still do not understand the meaning of innocent, b) they are still convinced that a rape did occur, and c) they repeatedly failed to follow their own guidelines set forth in the Student Handbook to protect the falsely accused students. So what exactly makes you think that this power differential they speak of will NOT apply to those who are perceived to hold power, even if they aren’t in “official” positions of power? They certainly perceived the falsely accused Duke Lax players as powerful. After all, power, money, whiteness, and elitism were the overriding themes in the reactions of many Duke faculty and staff. Why would it be any different now?


38 posted on 04/07/2010 1:17:37 PM PDT by TruJess
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To: abb

The funny thing is that they cite the higher IQ of Duke male students as enabling them to be better sexual predators without considering that the women should also have higher IQ themselves and thus be better able to deal with them. They are so intent upon depicting women as victims that they literally insult their intelligence.


39 posted on 04/07/2010 1:20:08 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Above My Pay Grade

There should be heterosexual guys in next year’s freshman class at Duke (and for years thereafter). After several years, there would be no heterosexual guys left at Duke.


40 posted on 04/07/2010 1:23:26 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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