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Knoxville Father Wants Biology Book Banned
www.foxnews.com ^ | April 7, 2010 | Elizabeth Prann

Posted on 04/08/2010 8:07:40 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3

A Tennessee father told his son’s school board they need to ban a biology textbook because of it's ‘bias’ against Christians.

Kurt Zimmermann is appealing a Knoxville school district's decision to keep the book. He says the textbook used in his son’s biology class cites creationism as a "biblical myth." According to reports, he requests, 'non-biased' textbooks be used. In his words, the current textbook's phrasing misleads, belittles and discourages students in believing in creationism and calls the Bible a myth.

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KEYWORDS: academicbias; aclumia; antitheism; arth; atheismandstate; athesitsupremacist; creation; creationism; education; evolution; religion; religiousintolerance; school
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No matter what you believe on the matter, there is no need for this textbook to say that the Bible is a myth.
1 posted on 04/08/2010 8:07:41 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: metmom

ping


2 posted on 04/08/2010 8:08:13 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

If you can’t preach religion in school, than you shouldn’t be able to preach against it. In the immortal words of Billy Mays, it’s just that easy.


3 posted on 04/08/2010 8:11:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

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Can the end times be prevented?

It’s beginning to seem like the clock is striking midnight.


4 posted on 04/08/2010 8:12:11 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3; wagglebee

Correct, to say that “creation by God” is a myth, is to force the religion of ATHEISM on the students.

Any religion that believes in a God who did not create everything (regardless of timeframe it took), needs to then explain the “creation of God” (did it happen in the Big Bang while everything else was forming, did God evolve from space dust, are there other Gods then also evolving and forming like new stars?).

Any religious nature of “creation” does not need to be addressed in the text, but an absolute rejection of it cannot be in the text.

The separation of church and state prohibits the State from disavowing religion as well.


5 posted on 04/08/2010 8:12:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
The Evolutionists get upset when religious people "impose their views on science".

But, of course, the Evolutionists think they have a free pass to take shots at religion.

6 posted on 04/08/2010 8:12:35 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

“Kurt Zimmermann is appealing a Knoxville school district’s decision to keep the book. He says the textbook used in his son’s biology class cites creationism as a “biblical myth.”

Biblical myth? Well, it IS biblical and it is no more proven as fact than is evolution. The writers of the book could have worded it differently I suppose.


7 posted on 04/08/2010 8:13:00 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Atheist Supremacists have become fundamentalist lately, forcing their worldview on all “false believers”.


8 posted on 04/08/2010 8:13:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Grunthor

I think I would be fine calling it belief. Calling it myth seems to be an intentional slap.


9 posted on 04/08/2010 8:15:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Indeed. Myth implies a falsehood. But even technically, Genesis is not a myth, but any explanation of the world that is contrary to Egyptian and Mesopotamians myths, and posits a relationship between the Creator and man that is radically different from theirs.


10 posted on 04/08/2010 8:16:09 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Grunthor

The bible has proven to be true over and over. As of late, an acutal picture of the apostle Paul. However, Darwins theory was just that, a theory. Never proven and never will be.


11 posted on 04/08/2010 8:20:51 AM PDT by maeng ( l)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

There is no reason for the text to mention any religious teaching. And if they are trying to claim that those who do not believe every tenat of Darwin’s theory are by default believers in a literal 6 day creation as told in the Bible they are leaving out other alternatives.

Nope this is not about Biology but about prejudicing the children against their religion.


12 posted on 04/08/2010 8:24:28 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: a fool in paradise

My tagline says it...


13 posted on 04/08/2010 8:25:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Grunthor
Biblical myth? Well, it IS biblical and it is no more proven as fact than is evolution.

You have no more proof that it is a myth, now, do you? To anyone who says the bible is a myth, I say look around you. Life and the earth is a miracle in itself. It didn't happen by accident. I challenge that person to read the bible from cover to cover. It is just full of stuff that has already came true and especially now things are happening at an alarming rate and all of it is in Revelation.

14 posted on 04/08/2010 8:29:55 AM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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To: maeng
As of late, an acutal picture of the apostle Paul.

What do you mean by this, I am just curious.

15 posted on 04/08/2010 8:31:48 AM PDT by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
No matter what you believe on the matter, there is no need for this textbook to say that the Bible is a myth.

Exactly.

16 posted on 04/08/2010 8:36:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: cripplecreek; MEGoody; christianhomeschoolmommaof3
> I think I would be fine calling it belief. Calling it myth seems to be an intentional slap.

Agreed. Creationism can be mentioned without the slam on the Bible.

"Myth" carries an association of falsehood, and the mention of the Bible is unnecessary in any case.

The term "gratuitous" comes to mind.

17 posted on 04/08/2010 8:42:46 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

That’s Feducation for you! I would hope that many Christians would join this man in his quest for a ban on the anti-Christian book. I am sick of the gubmint using our own tax dollars to beat us around the head and shoulders! Come on, how many Christian soldiers will join in this fight for what is right?


18 posted on 04/08/2010 8:42:53 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
Whatever a school book might say, I teach my children that some of what they will be taught in school will be wrong. I keep engaged with what they are taught, and discuss it with them.

You can't keep your children from being presented with falsehoods in their lives. I think it's better that kids learn to recognize false ideas and reject them, trusting you to always tell them the truth.

19 posted on 04/08/2010 8:53:39 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Evolutionists get upset when religious people “impose their views on science”.
But, of course, the Evolutionists think they have a free pass to take shots at religion.

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For balance, I’m an evo, and I completely agree with your statements above.

Don’t know that the baby need be thrown out with the bathwater, but ‘myth’ should be replaced with ‘belief’.


20 posted on 04/08/2010 8:54:07 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

Thanks.


21 posted on 04/08/2010 8:57:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

watch and athiest stumble and bumble when asked 1 simple question. “Where did it come from?” Follow up with, “Where did that come from?” These people that write this kind of bologna are deluded.


22 posted on 04/08/2010 8:58:57 AM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

He and all others who believe in God and the Bible, will be the first taken to the work camps. I, for one, do not intend to “go quietly.”


23 posted on 04/08/2010 9:01:40 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (The Last of the Bohicans!)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Was in the news that a picture of who is thought to be the apostle Paul was found in some cave on the wall. (I hope I have that right.)Very recent.


24 posted on 04/08/2010 9:04:31 AM PDT by maeng ( l)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
Can the end times be prevented?

It’s beginning to seem like the clock is striking midnight.

You say that like it's a bad thing. Re-read the last chapter.

25 posted on 04/08/2010 9:04:32 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Check this out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/5675461/Oldest-image-of-St-Paul-discovered.html


26 posted on 04/08/2010 9:09:09 AM PDT by maeng ( l)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

No matter what you believe on the matter, there is no need for this textbook to say that the Bible is a myth


So true....and I think it shows how much the progressives fear that Darwinism has had so many holes poked in it recently, that they have to attack Christians


27 posted on 04/08/2010 9:12:15 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate jdforsenate.com)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I don’t think the people who are complaining understand the definition of the term “myth”, i.e. a traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people. Here is a snippet from the book’s glossary - “Creationism: A religious belief that life was created very recently, as described in the Christian Bible.” Is that inaccurate?


28 posted on 04/08/2010 9:14:38 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

Yes we understand. A myth is a STORY used to explain historical events. IOW the world came to be at some point in history and creation is a STORY used to explain it (fiction).


29 posted on 04/08/2010 9:21:51 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Have you never heard of a “true story”? You should check your semantic prejudice at the door. And FWIW, you may want to review the definition of “history” as well.


30 posted on 04/08/2010 9:36:01 AM PDT by stormer
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

no. 1: Public schools (government schools) teach the kids WHAT to think instrad of HOW to think.

no.2: Communism’s most detested enemy is Christianity.

no. 3: Darwinism, not Christianity is a man made myth.

no.2: Socialism, the precurser to Communism, is suicide.

no.4: Nuff said!


31 posted on 04/08/2010 9:51:51 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: stormer
I don't have semantic prejudice. A story to EXPLAIN an actual historical event would not be true story; it would be a parable, allegory, myth etc. A story to relay factual historical information would be a true account. You seem to be the one in need of the definition of the word myth. Main Entry: myth Pronunciation: \ˈmith\ Function: noun Etymology: Greek mythos Date: 1830 1 a : a usually traditional story of ostensibly historical events that serves to unfold part of the world view of a people or explain a practice, belief, or natural phenomenon b : parable, allegory 2 a : a popular belief or tradition that has grown up around something or someone; especially : one embodying the ideals and institutions of a society or segment of society b : an unfounded or false notion 3 : a person or thing having only an imaginary or unverifiable existence 4 : the whole body of myths
32 posted on 04/08/2010 9:52:34 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

My eyes are areally bad today. Shoould read no.4 and no. 5. Sorry.


33 posted on 04/08/2010 9:53:32 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
Can the end times be prevented?

I surly hope not. It is time for all of this crap to come to an end.

34 posted on 04/08/2010 10:02:22 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

And how does that definition conflict with your interpretation or understanding of Christianity?


35 posted on 04/08/2010 10:03:57 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

I believe the Bible is actual history not a story used to explain actual history.

Genesis 2:4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.


36 posted on 04/08/2010 10:21:04 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

And you are free to believe that. The point of contention is whether a scientific text should validate your religious beliefs.


37 posted on 04/08/2010 10:40:35 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

I did not ask and I do not want a public school textbook to validate my beliefs. I also do not want the public school to disparage them. That was the whole point, if you read my initial comments on the thread.

If they want to present their scientific evidence for evolution that is one thing. Calling creationism a myth is not scientific inquiry.


38 posted on 04/08/2010 11:14:14 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
No matter what you believe on the matter, there is no need for this textbook to say that the Bible is a myth.

Why shouldn't it use the word? In context, it's perfectly accurate.

39 posted on 04/08/2010 11:41:13 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

So are you saying that the Bible is not “a traditional story accepted as history, (which) serves to explain the world view of a people”?


40 posted on 04/08/2010 11:43:55 AM PDT by stormer
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

The more correct statement would be religious myth.

That allows for all the myriad creation myths, current and archaic.

It covers not only Genesis but the Hopi, Navajo, Islamic, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Shinto, and what ever.


41 posted on 04/08/2010 11:45:43 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

First, it shouldn’t be discussing it. Second, it isn’t accurate.


42 posted on 04/08/2010 11:48:04 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: stormer

In the context of that definition the word story is used to mean parable or allegory. So no, the Bible is an actual historical account not a story as defined here.


43 posted on 04/08/2010 11:50:00 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: bert

And isn’t that the rub; Christianity being singled out among the world’s religions. Gotta ask myself why that is.


44 posted on 04/08/2010 11:50:57 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
First, it shouldn’t be discussing it.

Well, if you insist on cutting all discussion of creationism of out the (public) classroom, you won't get any argument from me.

Second, it isn’t accurate.

Christianity has its creation myth, just as other religions do. Calling it such isn't a slight, it's simply a clinical description.

45 posted on 04/08/2010 12:42:00 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Relegating the Bible to a myth isn’t a discussion of creationism. It is disparaging to Christianity. Calling biblical creation a myth doesn’t make it one but you are welcome to your belief as well.
Secularism has it’s creation myth as well, it’s the one that is preached as science in every public funded classroom in the nation.


46 posted on 04/08/2010 12:46:06 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Evos have a creation myth too: “Everything just happened randomly for no reason!” Evo believe this by faith.


47 posted on 04/08/2010 12:48:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
Relegating the Bible to a myth isn’t a discussion of creationism. It is disparaging to Christianity.

I disagree. Is calling the story of Athena springing from the head of Zeus a myth disparaging? Does it disparage Islam to describe as a myth the story of mohammed flying on a winged horse? The Nasadiya Sukta of the Rigveda is mythical. Does that description disparage Hinduism?

Calling biblical creation a myth doesn’t make it one but you are welcome to your belief as well.

I never asserted that calling biblical creation a myth made it so. It simply is, regardless of your belief otherwise.

Secularism has it’s creation myth as well, it’s the one that is preached as science in every public funded classroom in the nation.

Why would you characterize the theory of evolution as secular in nature? It doesn't address the existence or non-existence of God(s) in any way.

48 posted on 04/08/2010 1:03:23 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Evos have a creation myth too: “Everything just happened randomly for no reason!

What an odd way to describe physics, biology, astronomy, geology, and chemistry...

49 posted on 04/08/2010 1:10:32 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Evolution=random, natural processes=no god involved

The description of biblical creation as outlined in Genesis is the historical account of how the world came to be. It simply is, regardless of your belief otherwise.

And no I don’t find it disparaging to call a myth a myth. However, I do find it disparaging to call the truth a myth. I also find it disparaging to single out Christianity to be labelled a myth. Why go to all the trouble to discredit Christianity? It is because they can’t let the truth get in the way of their belief.


50 posted on 04/08/2010 1:11:41 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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