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Kentucky Third Parties Clear the Way for Rand Paul
Independent Political Report ^ | April 5th, 2010 | Independent Political Report

Posted on 04/08/2010 2:01:58 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

The Libertarian Party of Kentucky recently held its nominating convention for 2010 elections and failed to nominate a candidate for Senate. Similarly, the Constitution Party of Kentucky is rumored to be avoiding the Senate race ostensibly because of Rand Paul’s presence in that race. Rand Paul, a Republican candidate for the open U.S. Senate seat in Kentucky is currently ahead in polling by double digits and is largely considered the frontrunner. Rand Paul is the son of Congressman and former Libertarian Party Presidential candidate Ron Paul.

K. Joshua Koch, vice chair of the Kentucky Libertarian Party, was an early supporter of the younger Paul’s run for Senate. George Whitfield, one of the organizers of the Libertarian Party meetups in Kentucky, was also an early supporter and made a donation to Rand Paul’s exploratory committee.

Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party’s 2008 Presidential nominee, has had good things to say about Rand Paul too, calling him a “sincere conservative-libertarian”, in contrast to “Big Government neocon” John McCain.

Rand Paul is considered a friend to ballot-access reformers according to Richard Winger, editor of Ballot Access News. He is well-educated on the unjustness of current ballot access laws.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; 911truth; adamkokesh; codepink; kokesh; ky2010; medeabenjamin; paulhaterslosingfast; randpaul; thirdparty
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"I am proud to support great grassroots candidates like Dr. Paul....
Because he’s a federalist and he wants the states to have more say --
and as we respect the 10th Amendment in our Constitution,
he wants the states to have more say in a lot of these issues."
~~ Governor Sarah Palin.

Rand Paul is endorsed by:

And, while this thread is about Rand Paul, not Ron Paul, let's dispense with the stupid "truther/blame America" lies before they even hit the thread:

Well, what say you? Let us know where you stand.

1 posted on 04/08/2010 2:01:58 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Seems to me that if Republicans want annoying little Rightist 3rd Parties to go away...

...All they have to do is run Republican candidates whom independent Rightists actually want to vote for!

2 posted on 04/08/2010 2:03:22 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Theophilus

Ping to #2


3 posted on 04/08/2010 2:04:26 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

I am one of those people who have to make the decision, Paul or Grayson. The son of a fruit cake or a democrat that is running as a republican? Any help on this subject is welcomed. I’m considering a write-in, but that seems to be wasting my vote.


4 posted on 04/08/2010 2:08:52 PM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home......)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

No, the Libertarians -— such as Rand Paul -— need to run as Libertarians and get out of the Republican Party. Period.

Grayson will win the nomination and the seat.


5 posted on 04/08/2010 2:11:16 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: KYGrandma

Trey Grayson is a good Conservative Republican and protege of Jim Bunning. Don’t buy the propaganda and lies from the Truther-supported moonbat candidate, Paul.


6 posted on 04/08/2010 2:28:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: La Enchiladita
Yeah, the exact thing we need is more establishment GOP
7 posted on 04/08/2010 2:29:24 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Christian_Capitalist

I have to disagree with Sarah Palin and Dick Armey on this one. Rand didn’t fall far from his Dad’s tree, although he doesn’t seem to mention him. While the have some good ideas, it is their lack of foreign policy knowledge that is frightening. Anyone who is against the military (especially those that have served), foreign deployment is not someone I want in power. The Pauls are for making our military into mercenaries by issuing Letters of Mark.


8 posted on 04/08/2010 2:29:58 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

I say he he is as goofy as his dad, And that is pretty goofy.


9 posted on 04/08/2010 2:32:45 PM PDT by John D
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To: KYGrandma
What do you dislike about Rand Paul?

I think that his stances on Pro-Life issues, Fiscal Conservatism, and Gun Rights (to name three issues which are most important to me) are second to none.

10 posted on 04/08/2010 2:35:09 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: La Enchiladita
No, the Libertarians -— such as Rand Paul -— need to run as Libertarians and get out of the Republican Party. Period. Grayson will win the nomination and the seat.

Laughable.

Rand Paul is crushing Grayson in the polls, and will crush the Democrats in November.

11 posted on 04/08/2010 2:35:52 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: oneamericanvoice
'The Pauls are for making our military into mercenaries by issuing Letters of Mark.'

It's a letter or marque, very Constitutional and would help in the WOT, and does not imply using the military for that role, but for PMC's.

12 posted on 04/08/2010 2:36:02 PM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; KYGrandma
Trey Grayson is a good Conservative Republican and protege of Jim Bunning. Don’t buy the propaganda and lies from the Truther-supported moonbat candidate, Paul.

Don't listen to the lies from the RINO Paul-haters.

Trey Grayson is a PROUD Bill Clinton supporter. He is NO Conservative!!
ClintonGrayson
BEST PALS, Y'ALL!!

13 posted on 04/08/2010 2:38:22 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: John D

What makes Dr. Ron Paul goofy? I have heard him speak and he makes much sense. Please be specific and do not resort to name calling please. Now, the floor is yours......


14 posted on 04/08/2010 2:39:12 PM PDT by rightwingjew
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To: John D
Just outta curiosity:

Well, which is it? Let us know where you stand.

15 posted on 04/08/2010 2:40:54 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Laughable.

The idea that libertarians should run as who they are rather than as fraudulent Republicans is laughable to you because of the typical libertarian lack of ethics.

Grayson has been steadily gaining in polls and racking up prestigious endorsements.

And, as for "crushing the Democrats," that is not what libertarians do. You only aid their endeavors.

16 posted on 04/08/2010 2:50:20 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Funny, but Rand Paul is, in terms of his political support, currently the preferred choice of Kentucky Republicans: Rand Paul leads Trey Grayson 42% to 27% amongst Kentucky Republicans.

And, by the way, let's ask YOU to answer this thread's political quiz:

Just outta curiosity:

Well, which is it, La Enchiladita? Let us know where you stand.

17 posted on 04/08/2010 2:54:16 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Yep, exactly. This is how you do it. If Republicans ran more conservative-libertarians like Rand, they wouldn't have to worry about 3rd parties.

Brilliant strategy, laugh at the libertarians but then bitch when they don't support the RINO.

18 posted on 04/08/2010 2:56:35 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: KYGrandma
The son of a fruit cake

Being the son of Ron Paul doesn't make one a fruitcake.
Rand made it on his own without his father's help or machine

19 posted on 04/08/2010 2:57:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: rightwingjew

Do you want to know what makes cut and run Ron Paul goofy or his son goofy?


20 posted on 04/08/2010 2:58:59 PM PDT by John D
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To: La Enchiladita
need to run as Libertarians and get out of the Republican Party.

But...but...whenever when libertarians do this, they get blamed when Republicans lose.

You can't have it both ways.

21 posted on 04/08/2010 2:59:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Neither. I disagree with cut and run when he blames America, and not the terrorists for 9/11.


22 posted on 04/08/2010 3:00:50 PM PDT by John D
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To: La Enchiladita
The idea that libertarians should run as who they are rather than as fraudulent Republicans is laughable to you because of the typical libertarian lack of ethics.

Again though, you have no right to complain when Republicans lose close elections because of the Libertarian vote. If liberal RINOs can run as Republicans, then so can libertarians.

Grayson has been steadily gaining in polls and racking up prestigious endorsements.

McConnell and various other GOP Washington beltway hacks are not "prestigious" endorsements.

And, as for "crushing the Democrats," that is not what libertarians do. You only aid their endeavors.

Who do you think the Tea Parties are made up of? Small gov't, fiscal-conservative libertarians. They're out there fighting the Dems and socialist agenda. I don't see religious busybodies or RINOs on the front lines.

23 posted on 04/08/2010 3:03:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; humblegunner; big'ol_freeper; TruthHound; Servant of the Cross; ...

Hey, you paid n00b shill, Grayson supported him as a 21-year old college student in 1992, NOT as an elected official. Trey Grayson has ALWAYS held office as a loyal Conservative Republican who supports Republicans. Your TRUTHER-supported candidate voted AGAINST the REAGAN-Republican agenda when he supported his daddy’s Presidential run.


24 posted on 04/08/2010 3:04:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Horsecrap. Put up Paulbot loons and you’ll lose two-three votes for every vote you gain. Want to be a Libertarian ? Run under their label.


25 posted on 04/08/2010 3:06:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: John D
Neither. I disagree with cut and run when he blames America, and not the terrorists for 9/11.

Ah, but Ron Paul does no such thing.

So, I guess it is fair to say that you, JohnD, do agree with Ron Paul that "only a fool would place the moral responsibility for terrorism on anyone other than the terrorists themselves".

26 posted on 04/08/2010 3:06:44 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

More horsecrap. He wouldn’t register a blip on the radar screen without his last name and his daddy’s fundraising network of cult-like followers.


27 posted on 04/08/2010 3:07:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Hey, you paid n00b shill, Grayson supported him as a 21-year old college student in 1992, NOT as an elected official.

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

Just try to convince ANYONE that Trey Grayson is "a 21-year old college student" in the photo posted above, or that it was taken in 1992.

Nobody's buying your lies. Trey Grayson is a Bill Clinton-loving RINO.

28 posted on 04/08/2010 3:08:38 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

All you lie-bertarians are good at is swarming the internet: the blogs, the polls, etcetera. You have no core beliefs, as attested by the Libertarian Party platform, and only serve to disrupt. Anarchy, fun and games, infiltration, to hell with the country. Your icon Ron Paul has accomplished NOTHING in his tenure in Congress and he’s a traitor to boot.


29 posted on 04/08/2010 3:10:51 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

You got caught lying, n00b troll shill. Can you Paultards EVER tell the truth ?


30 posted on 04/08/2010 3:12:31 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You got caught lying, n00b troll shill. Can you Paultards EVER tell the truth ?

I'm not lying about Trey Grayson being a Bill Clinton-loving RINO, and you know it.

No way that you can manage to convince anyone that the photo in #13 was taken in 1992, or that Trey Grayson was 21 in the picture. No-one's buying your RINO-supporting lies; they can see with their own eyes that Trey Grayson is Billy Jeff Clinton's darling baby boy, politically speaking.

31 posted on 04/08/2010 3:15:41 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Ron Paul

THAT'S MY BOY!

32 posted on 04/08/2010 3:16:48 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Then why did he blame 9/11 on America, and not the terrorists?
Cut and run says many things, like being against earmarks, but takes every one he can get his hands on. He says he is against abortion, but defends taking a minor across state lines in order to get one. Can anybody believe anything he says? I can't.
33 posted on 04/08/2010 3:17:36 PM PDT by John D
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To: KYGrandma

I don’t think there are write-ins for KY primaries, are there? Sounds like Paul would be better than Grayson, for Paul will stir up the base, but the base may be too small to prevail. People in KY don’t like to take chances.


34 posted on 04/08/2010 3:18:43 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: La Enchiladita; Extremely Extreme Extremist
All you lie-bertarians are good at is swarming the internet: the blogs, the polls, etcetera. You have no core beliefs, as attested by the Libertarian Party platform, and only serve to disrupt. Anarchy, fun and games, infiltration, to hell with the country. Your icon Ron Paul has accomplished NOTHING in his tenure in Congress and he’s a traitor to boot.

Funny, but Rand Paul is, in terms of his political support, currently the preferred choice of Kentucky Republicans: Rand Paul leads Trey Grayson 42% to 27% amongst Kentucky Republicans.

Trey Grayson is leading amonst only ONE group of Republicans: "Republican Voters who don't own Guns".

So I guess that Grayson is winning the "Please don't hurt me" Defenseless Sheeple vote, and Rand Paul is winning amongst all the other groups of Republicans.

And, by the way, let's ask YOU to answer this thread's political quiz:

Just outta curiosity:

Well, which is it, La Enchiladita? Let us know where you stand.

35 posted on 04/08/2010 3:18:56 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: TruthHound
Hey, let's ask YOU to answer this thread's political quiz:

Just outta curiosity:

Well, which is it, TruthHound? Let us know where you stand.

36 posted on 04/08/2010 3:19:57 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

I would imagine that the 27 percent is the McConnell base there. But McC won’t take chances.


37 posted on 04/08/2010 3:20:24 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: John D
Then why did he blame 9/11 on America, and not the terrorists?

He did not, and does not.

So, I guess it is fair to say that you, JohnD, do agree with Ron Paul that "only a fool would place the moral responsibility for terrorism on anyone other than the terrorists themselves".

38 posted on 04/08/2010 3:21:07 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Theodore R.
Presently, Trey Grayson is leading amongst only one group of Republicans: "Republican Voters who don't own Guns".

In other words, he's the darling of the "Please don't hurt me!" Defenseless Sheeple voters.

39 posted on 04/08/2010 3:22:42 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; TruthHound; SoCalPol

Your RLC standard issue spam reminds me of the pre-printed “protest” signs used by MoveOn and CodePink, as well as the purple SEIU t-shirts.... but then it all comes from the same source: SOROS.


40 posted on 04/08/2010 3:22:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Depose the Queen: support the conservative congressional candidate(s) of your choice.)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

If Tea Party Candidates can’t win a Republican Primary, what makes them think they can win a general election?

Face it folks, we’re a TWO PARTY system. If you want your ideas advanced, TAKE OVER one the TWO parties... That’s what the moonbats did. And, look who has ALL the power today


41 posted on 04/08/2010 3:24:23 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: La Enchiladita
I'm asking a question.

I'm just curious to see whether or not you'll be honest enough to answer it.

So, let me ask you to agree with one of the following statements:

Well, which is it?

42 posted on 04/08/2010 3:26:11 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: rabscuttle385
Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party’s 2008 Presidential nominee, has had good things to say about Rand Paul too, calling him a “sincere conservative-libertarian”, in contrast to “Big Government neocon” John McCain.

le bump :)
43 posted on 04/08/2010 3:26:13 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
He did not, and does not.

He sure did, cut and run said it was America that forced the terrorist to do what they did.
Like I said, Dr. Blame America First says many things. He says one thing one day and somethine else on another day. He is as wishy washy and as big a coward as obeyme.
44 posted on 04/08/2010 3:27:48 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D
He sure did, cut and run said it was America that forced the terrorist to do what they did.

Nope. Ron Paul never said that America "forced" Bin Laden to do anything. You just made that up, and you know it.

45 posted on 04/08/2010 3:30:06 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: La Enchiladita; Christian_Capitalist
I agree with Ron Paul, that "only a fool would place the moral responsibility for terrorism on anyone other than the terrorists themselves".

OR...

I disagree with Ron Paul, and do "place the moral responsibility for terrorism on someone other than the terrorists themselves".

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, which is it, La Enchiladita? Let us know where you stand.

Oh, good grief, can you believe he thinks you or any of us are that stupid? As I've said, I have yet to meet a Paulbot who doesn't think he or she is intellectually superior to everyone around them.

This is an an old Democrat trick - posing questions in a manner that has their interpretation all over it, thereby preventing any far more rational explanation you would have. Sheesh.

46 posted on 04/08/2010 3:30:43 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Try your clipboard organ grinder quiz on some other monkey, moonbat.

We all know if Pauley Girl had his way, we’d have legal brothels next to schools, heroin for sale at 7-Elevens and NO OVERSEAS ALLIES!

Change out your bong water every now and then.


47 posted on 04/08/2010 3:31:08 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: La Enchiladita
No, the Libertarians -— such as Rand Paul -— need to run as Libertarians and get out of the Republican Party. Period.

You sound like a RINO lover who's quickly realizing his RINO loving days of voting for more estblishment GOP RINO's are quickly nearing their end. Enjoy your last hurrah.
48 posted on 04/08/2010 3:31:31 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Goodness. Here's Ron Paul with his good buddy and fellow surrenderist Dennis Kucinich. Ain't a dime's worth of difference between the foreign policy stances of Paleos and the Stalinist Kucinich/Cynthia McKinney wing of the Democrat party.

49 posted on 04/08/2010 3:31:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Christian_Capitalist
Third party candidates are a Democrats dream , divide and conquer . Soros is probably a big supporter .
50 posted on 04/08/2010 3:34:00 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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