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Pope willing to meet sex abuse victims again: Vatican
Times of India ^ | Apr 9, 2010 | Agencies

Posted on 04/09/2010 6:49:16 AM PDT by Cardhu

VATICAN CITY: Pope Benedict XVI is "available for new meetings" with victims of sex abuse by priests, Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi told Vatican Radio on Friday.

"The Roman Catholic Church must cooperate with police and the judiciary on child abuse by priests as "the only way to regain trust," Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi said.

Speaking on Vatican Radio, Lombardi said that, "Apart from the attention we must pay to the victims, we must pursue cooperation with the relevant civilian judicial and penal authorities, in line with the legal and other situations in each country."

"This is the only way to restore a climate of justice and full confidence in the institution of the Church," he added.

The Church has been shaken by a whole series of scandals involving paedophile priests in various countries, amid criticism that it protected guilty clergy instead of handing them over to be tried.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: vatican; victims
After victims complained of the indifference of the Pope to their plight on the last visit he is having a second attempt to act concerned.
1 posted on 04/09/2010 6:49:16 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
There is no other word for your sick obsession with this issue other than "evil".

What sect do you belong to, so that we may examine how pure its adherents are?
2 posted on 04/09/2010 6:50:58 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Antoninus

This is breaking news - and it might come as a surprise to you that not everyone has the need to belong to a sect or cult.


3 posted on 04/09/2010 6:56:25 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Antoninus; NYer

I guess Nyer is more evil considering their posts about this issue FAR outnumber Cardhu?

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:nyer/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


4 posted on 04/09/2010 6:59:20 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cardhu

The post from Antoninus says a lot considering this article is actually very pro-Pope. He is reaching out and doing the right thing.

Certain folks “just don’t want to talk about it.”

Sad...


5 posted on 04/09/2010 7:03:25 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

Damn! I can’t even win the lottery on ‘evil’ :)


6 posted on 04/09/2010 7:06:59 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: TSgt

Actually it is - it seems that some common sense has seeped into the Vatican at last - probably caused by the German Bishops recommending that victims contact the authorities.


7 posted on 04/09/2010 7:12:13 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

I’m a Christian however even I think FR has become a tad too “religious.” Post after post of prayers, novenas, etc...

Religion is a very sensitive issue that often results in flame wars.

We need to get back to our roots.


8 posted on 04/09/2010 7:13:08 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cardhu

So what church do you go to.


9 posted on 04/09/2010 7:13:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Cardhu
Actually it is - it seems that some common sense has seeped into the Vatican at last - probably caused by the German Bishops recommending that victims contact the authorities.

This so-called "anti-catholic" agrees with you. The Pope should be commended for reaching out to the victims.
10 posted on 04/09/2010 7:14:27 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt

Cynics will dismiss it as “damage control.” There is no foundation at this point for such an allegation.

I wonder, does this mean ALL victims, or just the German ones? Will the RCC pay to get them to the Pope?


11 posted on 04/09/2010 7:16:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I live in pagan Europe no one goes to church. Well only a few and that population is getting smaller and smaller by the day.

We do celebrate all the holidays though and most still attend for Births, Marriages and Deaths - the sort of hatch, match and dispatch christians.


12 posted on 04/09/2010 7:23:27 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You raise a good point. Meeting with some should open the door to all.

We’ll have to see how this plays out. Still, I believe it is a step in the right direction for the Vatican.

A “spring cleaning” of any current leadership, such as Cardinal Law, who was involved in the abuse would a great next step.


13 posted on 04/09/2010 7:29:18 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Antoninus

Integrity check: Standing by for your tongue-lashing of NYer for this article they just posted concerning their “sick obsession” with this issue.

The Pope and the press (Pope Benedict XVI falsely accused by New York Times)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489754/posts


14 posted on 04/09/2010 7:40:29 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cardhu
This is breaking news

Please. It's "same stuff, different day." Yawn fest.

and it might come as a surprise to you that not everyone has the need to belong to a sect or cult.

No, but you do. You clearly belong to the cult of the Prince of this World.
15 posted on 04/09/2010 7:43:00 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Cardhu

Calling our FRiend out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2489754/posts?page=5#5


16 posted on 04/09/2010 7:46:26 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt; Cardhu
Sorry, you're obviously late to the party. Cardhu is a serial poster on this issue--and nearly all the articles he posts are full of slander and lies. So are his comments. He obviously has some personal ax to grind here.

My criticisms of him have less to do with the content of this particular article than to his slanderous insinuation in post 1 that the Pope is only "acting" concerned.

If he can't take it, he should shut up and leave.
17 posted on 04/09/2010 7:46:54 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Antoninus
Cardhu is a serial poster on this issue

So is NYer and not all of their articles are pro-RCC. But you give them a pass because...

So who is it that can't take it? ;-)
18 posted on 04/09/2010 7:52:44 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt; Cardhu
But you give them a pass because...

Wow, you really are obtuse.

I criticize Cardhu for spreading lies and slander in HIS comments.

NYer doesn't do that.

Capiche?
19 posted on 04/09/2010 7:55:38 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Antoninus

You FRiend have been proven to be a hypocrite.

You will not permit anyone to post articles or discuss this topic unless you agree with them.

May I suggest that you get your own forum?


20 posted on 04/09/2010 8:05:56 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cardhu

$2000,000,000+ can buy a lot of concern.


21 posted on 04/09/2010 9:19:59 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: TSgt; Antoninus; NYer; Campion

Thanks you TSgt, Pope Benedict XVI is under fire from critics who say he was part of a shameful culture of denial it seems, by the posts here, that culture invades the pews too.

They all talk about lies and slander as they swallow, with the eagerness of nestlings, the convoluted morsels of gobbledygook that in every instance passes over the real problem of Ratzinger’s culpability. They are fed nonsense and in some cases lies from the Vatican spokesmen to make the flock, bless their hearts, once again feel comfortable in the rotting, decaying nest of religious inanity.

The main thrust of the article in the NY Times tying Ratzinger to the case of the 200 deaf boys is the 8-month delay in even responding to the letter or rather two letters of the bishop. Eight months in which he did absolutely nothing.

Further, is there anyone, outside of a cult, that would sit on information that a pedophile in your company or group had molested 200 handicapped deaf children for eight months and fail even to acknowledge the letters? That is what Ratzinger, Grand Inquisitor, at the time did.

If any one of these gentlemen can produce any denial of such I will be much obliged, as I have never seen anything that addresses that fact.

A similar case, now on Pope Benedict watch echoes the one in Italy, where 67 deaf men and women accused two dozen priests of raping and molesting children for years. Only now — a year (12 months) after the Italian case became public is the Vatican directing the diocese to interview the victims to hear their testimony about the accusations.

Would I be slandering if I suggested there is a pattern here under Ratzinger. People with absolutely no concern or empathy to what would horrify normal people are known as psychopaths. This tendency, tragically has been on display by Vatican officials on several occasions during this saga. Even the reason for this thread is in response to the lack of empathy for the victims.

With the vigorous defense of the hierarchy, the men in dresses, and the total unconcern for the thousands of children, world wide, who were violated, one would easily believe that not only is the church infested with homosexuals but psychopaths too.

Truly, as chief exorcist of the Vatican, the Rev. Gabriele Amorth was quoted as saying “the Devil is at work inside the Vatican,” and that “when one speaks of ‘the smoke of Satan’ in the holy rooms, it is all true—including these latest stories of violence and pedophilia.” This can perhaps be taken as confirmation that something horrible has indeed been going on in the holy precincts...”

Now ladies and gentlemen post the lies and slanders that I have written that I defend each and every one or peradventure humbly apologize.


22 posted on 04/09/2010 9:57:46 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
There's a slander in post 1 of this thread. You claim that Pope Benedict is only "acting" concerned.

Retract that.
23 posted on 04/09/2010 10:00:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Antoninus

The whole reason for a second meeting was his lack of empathy and if you couple that with two occasion of paying no attention to deaf boys in two countries for 8 months in one case and a year in another - a reasonable person would conclude that he could not care less about the victims, his main focus was on protecting the church.

And if you throw in his 2001 letter about secrecy you will get the picture.

What is slander to you could be simple deduction to others.


24 posted on 04/09/2010 10:17:43 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Antoninus
Antoninus,

Why haven't you been using your banner? Was it not effective?


25 posted on 04/09/2010 10:59:26 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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