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Westboro Baptist Church too extreme for Klu Klux Klan
examiner.com ^ | April 9, 2010 | Micha J. Stone

Posted on 04/10/2010 1:54:09 PM PDT by lowbridge

In an astonishing display of common sense the Klu Klux Klan has releasd a statement repudiating the activities of the Westboro Baptist Church, denying any connection or sympathy with the hate group.

The Westboro Baptist Church, notorious for the phrase "God hates fags", is best known for its protest activities, which include picketing funerals of fallen soldiers.

The church runs numerous Web sites such as GodHatesFags.com, GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of homosexuality.

The group bases its work around the belief expressed by its best known slogan and the address of its primary Web site, God Hates Fags, asserting that every tragedy in the world is linked to homosexuality—specifically society's increasing tolerance and acceptance of the so-called homosexual agenda. The group maintains that God hates gays above all other kinds of "sinners" and that homosexuality should be a capital crime.

The KKK does not give any reason for the disclaimer, only the following note on their website:

News Release

Disclaimer:

NOTE: The Ku Klux Klan, LLC. has not or EVER will have ANY connection with The "Westboro Baptist Church". We absolutely repudiate their activities.

The Ku Klux Klan, LLC.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biggayfred; fredphelps; gayklan; kkk; kukluxklan; phelps; wbc; westboro
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1 posted on 04/10/2010 1:54:10 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I never thought I would agree with the Ku Klux Klan on anything.


2 posted on 04/10/2010 1:55:10 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: lowbridge

Hey is the Democrat’s KKK still around?


3 posted on 04/10/2010 1:55:32 PM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: lowbridge

They are both democrat hate groups and always have been.


4 posted on 04/10/2010 1:56:14 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

They are not democrats and they are not republicans. Neither side would claim them.


5 posted on 04/10/2010 1:57:15 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: Tarpon
Hey, is the Democrat’s KKK still around?

Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, Ex-Klansman
by Michelle Malkin (March 8, 2001)

Ex-Klansman Robert Byrd, the senior senator from West Virginia, casually used the phrase "white nigger" twice on national TV this weekend. Enraged civil rights groups organized a protest campaign against Sen. Byrd and demanded that he undergo sensitivity training ... not.

The ex-Klansman, you see, is a Democrat. Democrats can join hate groups and utter the ugliest racial slurs and get away with it because they are Democrats. They belong to the party of racial tolerance and understanding. They're paragons of virtue, and the rest of us are bigoted rubes.

The ex-Klansman showed his true colors when asked by Fox News Sunday morning talk show host Tony Snow about the state of race relations in America. Sen. Byrd warned: "There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I'm going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I'd just as soon quit talking about it so much."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=383

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

In 1942, 24-year-old Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), whose parades in Matoaka, West Virginia, he had witnessed in his childhood. He was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter.[4]

Byrd, in his autobiography, attributed the beginnings of his political career to this incident, although he lamented that they involved the Klan. According to Byrd, a KKK official told him "You have a talent for leadership, Bob... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd recalls that "suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did."[4] He participated in the KKK during World War II, holding the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops. He did not serve in the military during the war, working instead as a welder in a Baltimore, Maryland shipyard, where he helped build warships.[citation needed]

Byrd commented on the 1945 controversy about racially integrating the military. Byrd, when he was 28 years old, wrote to segregationist Senator Theodore Bilbo, of Mississippi, vowing never to serve in such a military:

"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.[5]"

He had earlier written "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side".[6][7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Participation_in_the_Ku_Klux_Klan

YouTube - Senator Robert Byrd says "white niggers" on TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0

6 posted on 04/10/2010 1:57:18 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: lowbridge

The Westboro Baptist Church has lost its way. It is supposed to spread the Gospel, not just point out all of society’s ills.


7 posted on 04/10/2010 1:57:35 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: ETL

If you put byrd in there for them in all honesty we then have to put strom thurmond in there for us. let’s at least be honest.


8 posted on 04/10/2010 1:58:17 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: mlocher

It is in no way a church. There is not a Christian amongst them.


9 posted on 04/10/2010 1:58:50 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: lowbridge

The Klan is an LLC?


10 posted on 04/10/2010 1:59:17 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: mlocher

I admire the restraint the families of the soldiers who were being buried with these clowns outside have shown. I would not be able to show the same restraint.


11 posted on 04/10/2010 1:59:39 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: ETL

How did he avoid WW2?


12 posted on 04/10/2010 2:00:41 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: uscabjd
The Klan is an LLC?

LOL - who knew?
13 posted on 04/10/2010 2:03:30 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: lowbridge

I will take Westboro’s stance on disgusting queers over support for such deviants any day. I am however, disgusted by Westboro’s demonstrations at funerals. I am equally disgusted by queers who invade churches, spread a dozen venereal diseases, and practices of pederasty, felching, and rimming.


14 posted on 04/10/2010 2:06:01 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: lowbridge

You know,,,when the KKK says you are a hate group. Its time to go look hard in the mirror.


15 posted on 04/10/2010 2:08:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Dude,, why do you need to gross us out? I don’t know what those words mean precisely, but enough to be sickened at the thought, c’mon.

Westboro church is a sick bunch,,, that quite enough for the topic at hand.


16 posted on 04/10/2010 2:11:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DallasSun
It is in no way a church.

Likewise for Reverend Wright's Black Liberation Theology "church". Obama's new pastor (Jim Wallis), btw, also advocates BLT.

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)

SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

17 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:01 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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Photobucket
Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

18 posted on 04/10/2010 2:13:33 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DesertRhino

LOL...thanks for the laugh


19 posted on 04/10/2010 2:14:01 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: ETL

Exactly. I would not describe Wright as a minister by any stretch of the imagination. What a hateful man.


20 posted on 04/10/2010 2:14:38 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: DallasSun

Fred Phelps ran for state office as a democrat. He was also a delegate for Al Gore.


21 posted on 04/10/2010 2:17:28 PM PDT by CajunConservative (Shut Up Mary!)
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To: mlocher

WBC is nothing more than a family cult. It is not a church in the true sense since only family members and invited guests can attend.


22 posted on 04/10/2010 2:18:37 PM PDT by CajunConservative (Shut Up Mary!)
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To: DallasSun

Hateful and a communist.


23 posted on 04/10/2010 2:20:51 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

I agree. And worse.


24 posted on 04/10/2010 2:21:55 PM PDT by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: DallasSun

**I never thought I would agree with the Ku Klux Klan on anything.**

Ditto ... who’d have thought it Possible???


25 posted on 04/10/2010 2:25:20 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Obama ... Mein Kampf is NOT a Textbook!!)
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To: lowbridge

Ku Klux Klan LLC is a registered Arkansas corporation. According to the group’s website, it seeks to revive the ideals of the original post Civil War KKK, repudiating the post-1915 revived Klan that was so powerful in the 20s, as well as the current zoo of yahoo racists and neo-nazis who use the name.
It is still a racist group and makes no bones about it, but there is in fact a great deal of difference among the various Klan groups that represent the three main periods of Klan history.


26 posted on 04/10/2010 2:25:33 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: DallasSun

Yep. And David Duke was a Klansman who ran for the Republican nomination in 1990. It’s a Southern thang.


27 posted on 04/10/2010 2:25:51 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

Duke is the only person in recent times to be decertified by the LA GOP.


28 posted on 04/10/2010 2:35:03 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: lowbridge
The Ku Klux Klan, LLC. has not or EVER will have ANY connection with The "Westboro Baptist Church". We absolutely repudiate their activities.

Mother of all SLAMS - Westboro Baptist Church and the Phelps gang is to radical for even the KKK.

Wonder when the SPLC and ACLU will condemn the Phelps Gang. Not holding my breath for it.

29 posted on 04/10/2010 2:36:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: DRey
It’s a Southern thang.

Nope. Like both Obama's "Black Liberation Theology" pastors' (Jeremiah Wright and Jim Wallis), it's a RACIST thang. His pal "reverend" Michael Pfleger promotes BLT as well.

30 posted on 04/10/2010 2:43:49 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DRey

No it is NOT a Southern thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Klan


31 posted on 04/10/2010 2:43:58 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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To: gwilhelm56

That’s what I was thinking ! OMG


32 posted on 04/10/2010 2:46:27 PM PDT by major-pelham
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To: packrat35
"Attempts to revive the [Indiana] Klan were made in the 1960s and 1970s, but the organization was never able to regain the membership or power it held during the 1920s."

Though the rest of us don't like to claim it, the Klan is still alive and well in the South.
33 posted on 04/10/2010 2:49:28 PM PDT by DRey
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To: SandRat

Wonder when the SPLC and ACLU will condemn the Phelps Gang. Not holding my breath for it.


More shocking than the KKK blasting the Westboro Cult....is how Liberal groups refuse to publicly condemn Westboro.....none of the Gay Rights Groups, the SPLC, ACLU, SEIU....they all have no problem with Westboro

I guess being anti Bush war is more important than hating gays and hoping people die over them.....


34 posted on 04/10/2010 2:51:40 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: mlocher

That “church” is not a Baptist Church, it is one lunatic family claiming to be a church.


35 posted on 04/10/2010 2:52:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: ETL

You know, I think early on in FR there may have been some of those creatures about. Kleagles. I once received a FReepmail after an anti-PC comment I made regarding blacks. Anti-PC, NOT racist, mind you. A racist sent me a bunch of links and info hoping I would be likeminded. I was disgusted and sickened and reported him.

How proud I am of FR that they know they are not welcome here.


36 posted on 04/10/2010 2:53:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DRey

New Jersey is NOT a Southern state

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ku_Klux_Klan_in_New_Jersey


37 posted on 04/10/2010 2:53:21 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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To: DRey

It is around all over the country but is NOT doing well anywhere, including the South.


38 posted on 04/10/2010 2:54:55 PM PDT by packrat35 (Planned Parenthood - Keeping healthcare costs down, one fetus at a time)
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To: packrat35
"The first appearance of the KKK in New Jersey was in 1921, where it had crossed over from New York and Pennsylvania. An attorney named Arthur H. Bell was the state's first Grand Dragon, and continued serving in that post until the Ku Klux Klan was disbanded in 1944.[1].

If you're going to link an article, why don't you read it first? This was practically the first sentence, and the whole article speaks of the NJ Klan is PAST TENSE. No Klan in NJ. Alive and well in the South.
39 posted on 04/10/2010 2:58:27 PM PDT by DRey
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To: lowbridge

The message is that to be Baptist is to be the denomination of hate. Baptists hate the America that is disappearing and the brave military that protects and insures our freedom.


40 posted on 04/10/2010 2:58:51 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: lowbridge
Westboro Baptist may be a scum sucking lot but I'm not aware that they ever took a position against blacks. I would never have thought to link them with the Klan.

Still you've sunk pretty low when the Ku Klux Klan wants nothing to do with you.

41 posted on 04/10/2010 3:02:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: mlocher
. It is supposed to spread the Gospel, not just point out all of society’s ills.

Westboro Baptist doesn't care about all of society's ills. Just the homosexual ones.

42 posted on 04/10/2010 3:03:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: packrat35
It is around all over the country but is NOT doing well anywhere, including the South.

While the communist "Black Liberation" movement is very much still alive and have made enormous strides since it all came about in the 1960s. But I doubt anyone would have imagined that one of their own would actually win the presidency of the United States!

43 posted on 04/10/2010 3:05:55 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: uscabjd
How did he avoid WW2?

He was a welder in a shipyard. Essential to the war effort, etc., etc.

44 posted on 04/10/2010 3:06:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

An all-white shipyard, no doubt.


45 posted on 04/10/2010 3:50:41 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: lowbridge

Phelps supported Al Gore


46 posted on 04/10/2010 4:02:30 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: uscabjd

Damn good question. How did he avoid service in WWII. He was only in his early to mid twenties when the war started. I wonder how he got out of serving his country.


47 posted on 04/10/2010 4:21:09 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: DesertRhino

The Klan isn’t a hate group. They are a racists group.


48 posted on 04/10/2010 4:25:09 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: lowbridge

I have never learned how to just respond to the title topic on freerepublic, if anyone can instruct me on doing that instead of me having to directly respond to one of the repliers I would appreciate that. I wish that freereplublic would use a standard forum like phpbb or mybb as it is more organized to me.

As for Phelps, he runs a counterfeight Christian cult (there have been thousands of these in the last 2000 years). All cults and false religions preach some truths, but they mix them with their false teachings which are Satanic or self created. Jesus nor the Apostle’s ever picketed funerals cursing those who had died in battle and claiming they are in hell because of what their government has done.

Phelps’ doctrine is the extreme end of what comes from a literal calvinist viewpoint believing that God actually created certain people to be damned without them ever having a chance to be saved, this is how Phelps can curse people to their faces and feel nothing, because he actually believes the people he is cursing were created to be cursed and somehow his twisted God is happy with His curses.

I really can’t believe the guy can picket funerals and be in his right mind, but it shows the extremes that a human being can be allowed to go if he turns to Satanic voices in his head tempting him from the clear and sound doctrines of the Bible. I read that there is only members of his direct family in his entire ‘church’. His group has nothing to do with traditional Baptist historic doctrines and Phelps alone is confusing masses of people that Baptists are somehow like Phelps.

All people like Phelps though were foretold in the Bible and they are nothing new, and those ignorant of the Bible should learn what the Bible says about such people.

2 Cor 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Some of the worst evils and deceptions are done by wolves in sheep’s clothing. Jesus was very clear when He said:

Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It is also an irony that you can be so messed up as Phelps that even the Klan (another counterfeit christian/pagan anarchist fusion cult) wants no part with you.

It was all foretold in the Bible anyways and should be no surprise to those who know the Bible.


49 posted on 04/10/2010 4:40:25 PM PDT by LeaveAmericaNow
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To: lowbridge

LMAO! The Klan may be a bunch of paranoid racist neo-fascists, but they’re still loyal Americans.
How anyone calling themselves a follower of Christ can twist his teachings into hate is beyond me. Would love to be a fly on the wall when those folks have to explain their words and actions to Jesus in person.


50 posted on 04/10/2010 4:58:26 PM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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