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Gun goes off in car at Utah border; two BYU-Idaho students hurt
Ogden Standard-Examiner ^ | April 3, 2010 | Carlos Mayorga

Posted on 04/10/2010 4:20:17 PM PDT by Colofornian

PORTAGE -- Two college students heading to Salt Lake City were hurt when a gun discharged inside their vehicle near the Utah-Idaho border.

Four male students from Brigham Young University-Idaho were traveling south on Interstate 15 to attend the LDS General Conference in Salt Lake City, authorities say.

Around noon, in the front passenger seat, a man identified as Sterling Glines, 24, of Arizona, was examining his .40-caliber Glock.

The vehicle had just crossed the border into Utah, and Glines reportedly was explaining how the gun wouldn't fire if the slide was pushed back when the weapon discharged a single shot.

The bullet went through Glines' left hand and hit the forearm of the driver, identified as Ben Baugh, 23, of American Fork. The bullet also struck the driver's side door just below the window.

One of the men called 911.

Glines and Baugh were taken to Bear River Valley Hospital in Tremonton. The injuries aren't believed to be life-threatening, said Utah Highway Patrol Lt. Lee Perry.

Authorities say Glines has a concealed weapons permit issued by Arizona. The other two men in the car, a 21-year-old man from Pocatello, Idaho, and a 23-year-old man from Tooele, were not hurt.

UHP is investigating.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Idaho; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: banglist; byu; generalconference; inman; lds; mormon; negligentdischarge
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From the article: Four male students from Brigham Young University-Idaho were traveling south on Interstate 15 to attend the LDS General Conference...a man identified as Sterling Glines, 24, of Arizona, was examining his .40-caliber Glock. The vehicle had just crossed the border into Utah, and Glines reportedly was explaining how the gun wouldn't fire if the slide was pushed back when the weapon discharged a single shot. The bullet went through Glines' left hand and hit the forearm of the driver, identified as Ben Baugh, 23...
1 posted on 04/10/2010 4:20:17 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

It will if you pull the trigger


2 posted on 04/10/2010 4:21:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Colofornian
Are these folks related to the guy who discharged his pistol in a WalMart?
3 posted on 04/10/2010 4:23:27 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Colofornian

Hold my beer while I demonstrate science to yunz.


4 posted on 04/10/2010 4:24:10 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Colofornian

Glocks. For some reason people accidentally hurt themselves with these all the time - including people who should know better:

http://www.allvoices.com/news/5468953-seminole-police-officer-accidentlly-shoots-himself-while-cleaning-gun

http://www.newstimes.com/default/article/Danbury-police-officer-shoots-self-accidentally-219792.php


5 posted on 04/10/2010 4:25:14 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Colofornian

Hold ma’ beer.


6 posted on 04/10/2010 4:25:20 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Colofornian

Was anyone holding his beer? I wouldn’t want to see a good beer wasted.

Dumb duh dum dumb.


7 posted on 04/10/2010 4:26:20 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: Colofornian

Idiots.


8 posted on 04/10/2010 4:26:21 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Colofornian
“Clean up on aisle 2.”

I know I was always packin’ when headed to a church conference.


9 posted on 04/10/2010 4:26:26 PM PDT by stormer
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To: vladimir998

You have to be just about the dumbest person ever to live if you shoot yourself while cleaning your gun.


10 posted on 04/10/2010 4:27:44 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Colofornian

“examining” = playing with


11 posted on 04/10/2010 4:27:44 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Colofornian; All

If people were to follow these NRA safety rules they would eliminate "accidents":

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

NRA T/C CRSO
12 posted on 04/10/2010 4:30:12 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Colofornian
if the slide was pushed back

Out of battery?

That answered the question.

13 posted on 04/10/2010 4:30:36 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (Gun, Bible, Gadsden Flag...the definition of a hater and far right-wing extremist)
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To: Colofornian

I treat every firearm as if it were a Glock, including my 3 Glocks.


14 posted on 04/10/2010 4:31:39 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

That’s how I’ve always looked at it. It’s sooooo easy to make sure the pistol is empty. It ain’t hard. Remove the magazine, check the pipe, and never pull the trigger AND NEVER POINT THE GUN AT YOURSELF OR ANYONE ELSE. It just isn’t that hard.


15 posted on 04/10/2010 4:34:00 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: Colofornian

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That there general conference must have been as dangerous as it was in Briggy Youngs day...

a guy has to carry a gun to protect himself from the “avenging angels” checking temple recommends at the door...

“Iz youz an apostate??”

“No, not me”

“Yes youz is. An apostate is anyone that the profit sez is so. Monson sez youz iz so youz isz. Draw Gentile.”


16 posted on 04/10/2010 4:35:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: umgud
I treat every firearm as if it were a Glock, including my 3 Glocks.

Glocks are great, but are more unforgiving of stupidity and lack of familiarity with guns then other semi-autos. I advised a friend on mine who doesn't shoot very much to buy a Sig or Ruger which have "normal" safeties.

17 posted on 04/10/2010 4:41:18 PM PDT by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: SpaceBar

Exactly.

Perhaps he should think about this:

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=88453&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15711&isFirearm=Y

It has a thumb safety.


18 posted on 04/10/2010 4:42:16 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: vladimir998

My career Army dad taught me this when I was about 9 years old if not before. Simple and effective. I still remember it too.


19 posted on 04/10/2010 4:46:35 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: umgud
Sterling Glines, 24, of Arizona, was examining his .40-caliber Glock.

I carry a .40 Glock and the only way it goes off is a finger on a trigger.

20 posted on 04/10/2010 4:49:08 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 172)
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To: Recon Dad

I don’t see how it could discharge if the slide were pulled back.


21 posted on 04/10/2010 4:52:12 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Thane_Banquo

It was Utah. That would be, “Hold ma’ non-alcoholic beer.”


22 posted on 04/10/2010 4:53:02 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Colofornian
Could've been worse...


23 posted on 04/10/2010 4:54:59 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Colofornian
The vehicle had just crossed the border into Utah, and Glines reportedly was explaining how the gun wouldn't fire if the slide was pushed back when the weapon discharged a single shot.


24 posted on 04/10/2010 4:57:42 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: vladimir998

Agreed. I think all the hype and nifty things that some guns like Glocks are supposed to do/feature gets people all weeweed up and they think they’re safe when they really just need to follow a few simple steps instead.


25 posted on 04/10/2010 5:07:11 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (http://youngandright.wordpress.com/)
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To: vladimir998

I’ve got a variety of pistols including a Glock. The only way to hurt yourself or someone else by accident is by doing something very stupid.


26 posted on 04/10/2010 5:12:41 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Colofornian
The bullet went through Glines' left hand and hit the forearm of the driver, identified as Ben Baugh, 23, of American Fork. The bullet also struck the driver's side door just below the window.

Mr. Glines needs to checked for blood born pathogens. That bullet that passed through his hand injected his blood and tissue in to Mr. Baugh’s forearm.

27 posted on 04/10/2010 5:19:43 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Colofornian
Another Glock Spontaneously Discharges BUMP!
28 posted on 04/10/2010 5:21:47 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3V3Ry71N' 084M4 D03z 83N3f17Z MU5l1mz. c01NC1d3nc3?)
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To: Colofornian

Hold muh Book of Mormon.


29 posted on 04/10/2010 5:24:19 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: All

The gun did not “go off”. A person fired the gun.


30 posted on 04/10/2010 5:44:39 PM PDT by wvdmc
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To: driftdiver
It will if you pull the trigger

He knows that now. lol

31 posted on 04/10/2010 5:44:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: The Cajun

Depends on the Sig. My Sig Pro had (before that terrible boating accident where I lost all my firearms) no safety, just a decocking lever.


32 posted on 04/10/2010 5:45:45 PM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Colofornian
Accidental discharge. What, the gun sneezed?
33 posted on 04/10/2010 5:54:38 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Colofornian

Does anyone sensible trust gun safeties? The only reliable safety is the training of the person holding the firearm. Everything else is just decorative. I may use the safety, but I NEVER trust it, nor do I ever pull the trigger except to make the gun go “BOOM!”


34 posted on 04/10/2010 6:07:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: piytar

Remind me to never go fishing with you. lol My husband just got a Sig. I don’t know what type...I haven’t even seen it, yet.


35 posted on 04/10/2010 6:15:44 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Pollster1
Every gun is loaded, all the time. If I watch you break down clean and reasemble a a pistol. When you hand it to me I’m going tu check it.
36 posted on 04/10/2010 6:23:31 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Recon Dad
I carry a .40 Glock and the only way it goes off is a finger on a trigger.

Would you recomment a .40 Glock over a 9mm? I am enticed by the lower kick and cheaper ammo. I think I need only mocerate protectiona and want to do a fair ammount of range shooting. Interested in your take on this.....

37 posted on 04/10/2010 6:24:52 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Colofornian

ONLY cops are professional enough to handle a Glock...

as funny as it gets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ufT_6Kgy0


38 posted on 04/10/2010 6:25:54 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: BigCinBigD

With an attitude like that, you’ll never have the excitement of a “hold my beer” moment.


39 posted on 04/10/2010 6:27:55 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1
It's just 40 plus years of gun handling talking. :o)
40 posted on 04/10/2010 6:35:43 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: BigCinBigD

are you going tu spellcheck it?


41 posted on 04/10/2010 6:36:51 PM PDT by isom35
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To: isom35

Thank goodness the spelling police are here! Where were you last week when the neighbor kid stole my dictionary...


42 posted on 04/10/2010 6:45:30 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Colofornian
"Glines reportedly was explaining how the gun wouldn't fire if the slide was pushed back when the weapon discharged a single shot.

The bullet went through Glines' left hand and hit the forearm of the driver


I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say the guy, who was probably riding shotgun (no pun intended), was demonstrating by pushing his left hand up against the muzzle and front of the slide and pulling the trigger. Apparently you don't have to be one of the sharper tools in the shed to get into BYU.
43 posted on 04/10/2010 6:46:04 PM PDT by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think the decision should be based on how big of a hole you’d like to punch.


44 posted on 04/10/2010 6:47:48 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: isom35
Are you going to capitalize your sentences? (Just noticed)

;0)

45 posted on 04/10/2010 6:50:26 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: vladimir998

And especially don’t cover the muzzle with the palm of your left hand to hold the bullet in the barrel.


46 posted on 04/10/2010 7:04:15 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: vladimir998

vlad;

Now now, be nice to glocks-any pistol will potentially fire if the slide is forward enough to enable the sear...

Years ago (c1983) I was told by an Army instructor that teh M1911 had 4 safeties, name them:

Well, I got stumped and he smiled and said-”yep, teh half cock notch, teh grip safety,and teh thumb safety-what about teh disconnector?” an he proceeeded to ‘spalin that the pisto lwould not fire if the sldie was pushed back a fraction. He ten stated that this could be a life-saver if someone was threatening you with a 1911-simply pus the muzzle with your ahnd to disable it!!!!!

I challenged him to prove it-after he cleared it, I cleared it, I held it cocked and off safe and he tried to prevent the hammer from falling by pushing on the muzzle. I simply let him push my hand back, while I pulled the trigger. Hammer fell. He made me do about a million push-ups for “insubordination...”.

I enjoyed that session with my face in the Benning red clay more than he would have imagined.

He was an idiot, just as Mr. Glines apparently is.


47 posted on 04/10/2010 7:04:24 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Manly Warrior

Yeesh, at least all the letters are accounted for, if not in the correct order!! Mea Culpa to all english grammar types!


48 posted on 04/10/2010 7:08:15 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Do you want to piss them off or do you want to kill them. Thats the difference between a 9mm and a 40 or 45.


49 posted on 04/10/2010 7:11:23 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ThomasSawyer

Perhaps it was a 1911 type. Whichever, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t test it against my hand.


50 posted on 04/10/2010 7:15:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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