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From Senate Majority Leader, a Promise to Take Up Immigration Overhaul
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/us/politics/11immig.html ^ | 04/10/10 | Julia Preston

Posted on 04/10/2010 8:58:30 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: Emile

Emile,

“The Wall” is a political Trojan Horse.

90% of illegal immigrants come to the USA legally - by car, boat, or plane.

They simply overstay their visas.

Almost all the people who cross our borders illegally are people who were previously evicted from the USA.

Like you, I want the “The Wall” built.

However, it will have a very small impact on illegal immigration.


21 posted on 04/10/2010 9:44:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
The Democrats will immediately register 10 million new voters and will register 1 million new voters every year afterward. The 2010 election will produce modest gains for the GOP. The long term political destruction of American Conservatism is now an indisputable reality.

It’s a documented fact that Amnesty will result in a massive fiscal burden on American taxpayers. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation, a widely recognized authority on the demography of welfare costs did an analysis of the net fiscal impact (benefits received minus taxes paid) of low-skill households (those lacking a high school diploma, including legal and illegal immigrant households) to the U.S. taxpayer. Rector has calculated that on average, once they become eligible, (10 to 13 years after they receive their green card) they will receive over $30,000 in benefits annually and pay approximately $9,000 in taxes. Thus, their net annual cost to U.S. taxpayers is nearly $21,000.

While eligibility for means-tested welfare theoretically would have been constrained during the first 10 to 13 years under an amnesty plan such as Hagel-Martinez, each amnesty recipient would have become eligible for welfare during the last 30 to 40 years of their life. Accepting the Census Bureau’s conservative estimate of 11 million illegal aliens currently in this country, Rector concluded that amnesty recipients would impose a likely net cost of $2.6 trillion dollars on American taxpayers. Extrapolating that to 30 million, (some people say 50 million) results in a net cost in the $7 to 8 Trillion area. Can we afford this? Obviously not! Especially on the heels of Socialized Medicine legislation that is going to burden the US Taxpayers with untold trillions in expenditures.

The cost of Amnesty will mainly occur in two non-welfare programs (Social Security and Medicare) and in one means-tested program (Medicaid). Rector’s results are consistent with a 1997 “New Americans Study” by the National Academy of Sciences. If, as some recent studies have indicated, the actual number of illegal aliens in the U.S. is probably closer to the 30 million range, their net lifetime fiscal cost to American taxpayers could be more than double Rector’s estimate of $2.6 trillion. (or double $7 to 8 trillion - $14 to 16 trillion!). A trillion here, a trillion there, and borrowed money to boot! Sheer insanity.

22 posted on 04/10/2010 9:45:36 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Jukeman

“The more I think about all this crap, the more I am inclined to lock the gate to my farm, hunker down and just take care of myself and my wife. To hell with the rest of the world.”

Jukeman, please don’t give up that’s what they want us to do. We can beat them at their own game. Put a smile on your face and God in your heart and organize other people in your area.


23 posted on 04/10/2010 9:48:54 PM PDT by Shade_Trees_56
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To: freespirited
Who are these people who are cheering and yelling, “Yeah” to Reids amnesty for all illegals?
24 posted on 04/10/2010 9:49:05 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Shade_Trees_56

I’m just in foul mood - have not been able to kick a liberal’s ass in so long I’m having withdrawal symptoms. Saying that with a chuckle of some damned fine memories.


25 posted on 04/10/2010 9:53:11 PM PDT by Jukeman
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To: freespirited

The only comprehensive immigration refom this country needs is to enforce all current immigration laws to the fullest extent. We need to secure the border and have zero tolerance for those that illegally enter this country. I don’t care if an illegal has been here 20 minutes or 20 years they are still an illegal.


26 posted on 04/10/2010 10:00:19 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Art in Idaho

Idaho,

Excellent post.

Since 2000, 30% of new American citizens do not have a high school education.

Immigrant families use welfare programs more than twice as often as native born families.

America is a sovereign nation with the power to select new citizens the way Harvard University selects new students.

Instead....we opt for 20 million day laborers, who, just by pure coincidence, vote for Democrats.


27 posted on 04/10/2010 10:01:14 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Jukeman

Well, if you live close to the border or DC then I would still lock my gate. :-)


28 posted on 04/10/2010 10:20:46 PM PDT by Shade_Trees_56
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To: freespirited
The Dems might not want to bestow Amnesty prior to the election, lest their losses be more horrific. Nothing to stop, however, after the election, zombie Congress from passing Amnesty with instant suffrage and a reverse poll tax so to be their ticket back to office in a short two years.
29 posted on 04/10/2010 10:34:44 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: zeestephen

If you read the story - even Graham-nesty thinks there is zero support by the GOP or in the Senate. Keep fighting. Unemployment is off the charts. Keep fighting.


30 posted on 04/10/2010 10:38:03 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: freespirited
a penalty and a fine

But of course no criminal record.

Any American convicted of a federal misdemeanor - that's what illegal entry is - would wear that record for life.

But not The Chose Ones.

Isn't it surreal that an American Senator would do a speech to a crowd of illegal alien criminals, promising them that there will be no penalty for their crimes?

Isn't it beyond belief?

31 posted on 04/10/2010 11:43:14 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: Tammy8

I wholeheartedly agree.


32 posted on 04/11/2010 2:57:40 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: freespirited
The agenda of the left in congress and of course potus until Nov. will be the basic destruction of the country. Amnesty is just one facet.

We have to document every attack these traitors make on the country and use it in advertising for those who will unseat these traitors.

33 posted on 04/11/2010 3:44:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: freespirited

Rush predicts everything thespeople are going to do.


34 posted on 04/11/2010 5:35:52 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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