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Pstr Manning: Ethic Violation if Disbarred Obama allowed to Appoint Supreme Court Justices
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Posted on 04/13/2010 4:56:17 PM PDT by howkn

But here's what I want you to know. Why is it America, America, Why are you people allowing Barack Hussein (the long-legged-mack-daddy) Obama, appoint people to the US Supreme Court, when he himself is in violation of the State Bar and has lost his license to practice law? And the Same thing with his wife, Michelle The Fist Bumper who lost her license to practice law. We have 2 ex lawyers living in the Whitehouse, husband and wife, both of them leaders of our nation.

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1 posted on 04/13/2010 4:56:17 PM PDT by howkn
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Did you know that BH The Long Legged Mack Daddy O has had his Law License taken away from him. His license to practice Law by the IL State Bar has been taken away from him. And he surrendered that license during the heat of the Primary with HIllary and Bill Clinton because they had discovered that he had LIED on his application to the IL State Bar regarding whether or not he used another name other than Barrack Hussein Obama, he stated, “NO”. But the world knows that he used and had been known by the name, ‘Barry Soetero’. Indeed, that was his legal name as he was adopted by Lolo Soetero when he lived in Jakarta, Indonesia.
2 posted on 04/13/2010 4:57:01 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

But here’s what I want you to know. Why is it America, America, Why are you people allowing Barack Hussein (the long-legged-mack-daddy) Obama, appoint people to the US Supreme Court, when he himself is in violation of the State Bar and has lost his license to practice law? And the Same thing with his wife, Michelle The Fist Bumper who lost her license to practice law. We have 2 ex lawyers living in the Whitehouse, husband and wife, both of them leaders of our nation.


3 posted on 04/13/2010 4:57:49 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

In a perfect world this would be the start of drawing up articles of impeachment


4 posted on 04/13/2010 4:59:12 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: howkn
Why are you people allowing Barack Hussein (the long-legged-mack-daddy) Obama, appoint people to the US Supreme Court, when he himself is in violation of the State Bar and has lost his license to practice law?

Whether we hate Obama or not .....

1. The U.S. Constitution gives that right to POTUS.

2. Federal laws trumps any State law.

5 posted on 04/13/2010 5:00:32 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: howkn

Despite all of this wildman’s claims, this is a very interesting point. Nothing will become of it because of the lack of a legal claim. However, it is an interesting ethical and moral point.


6 posted on 04/13/2010 5:01:26 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: howkn
Manning: "To be fair, you don't have to be an attorney to be the POTUS, that is obvious. Nor do you have to be an attorney...to appoint people to the US Supreme Court. But some how or another, the ethics of the matter ought to be reviewed into this process and one should ask the question, Jeff Session, Lindsey Graham or John Kyle, those who are on the Judiciary committee ought to raise the question about Obama’s efficacy or his legitimacy to appoint somebody to The United Supreme Court, when he himself can't even practice law EVER AGAIN."
7 posted on 04/13/2010 5:06:23 PM PDT by howkn
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To: johniegrad
Manning: "Obama can't practice law EVER again. Now here, as we know, Bill Clinton had his law license lifted as well for Lying to Congress about the Monica Lewinski matter. Y'all remeber that. They lifted his license for lying. Well, Obama's license has been lifted for lying as well...My friends, you see how deep and ugly this thing has gotten by allowing This long-legged-mack-daddy Obama to be the POTUS?"
8 posted on 04/13/2010 5:13:04 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

Even more to the point, you do not have to be an attorney to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

Actually, your argument is wrong. The fact that he is the President gives him the legal right to nominate Justices. The agrument should be that he has not proven himself ELIGABLE to be President.


9 posted on 04/13/2010 5:16:59 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag line is on vacation.)
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To: irishtenor
A far, far greater number of lawyers have "lost their licenses" due to nonpayment of annual fees to the bar than have "lost their licenses" for being bad lawyers.

I handled a case involving a revenue deficiency involving a state court licensing office because they were mailing renewal notices to old addresses ~ without running an address correction file first to correct their mailing lists.

That involved THOUSANDS of lawyers who weren't getting their renewal notices in time to pay the fees in a timely manner.

That was just one state.

10 posted on 04/13/2010 5:22:08 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Polybius
Manning:

WE'VE GOT A DISPARRED LAWYER WHO IS THE DEFACTO HEAD, ExOfficio of the Supreme Court. WAKE UP AMERICA!

America, Come On! We've got a Disbarred Lawyer who is the Ex=Officio of the US Supreme Court, in Barack Obama.

11 posted on 04/13/2010 5:22:20 PM PDT by howkn
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To: Polybius

Only Constitutional Federal laws trump state laws to the contrary.


12 posted on 04/13/2010 5:22:37 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: howkn

The position take is silly. Being a member of the bar is not a requirement for the Presidency. (Thank goodness—it would be better if being a member of the bar disqualified one from elective office.)


13 posted on 04/13/2010 5:30:03 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: irishtenor
The argument is both. The eligibility stands and continues to need a full court press so that Obaminc is unable to see straight with so many lawsuits coming at them, from every angle imaginable.

The Disbarred Lawyer ethics violation stands as well.

Talk about hypocrisy. Obama LIES on his Law License application and get disbarred for it. FACT

He's a hypocrite to appoint Untied States Supreme Court Justices when he has been disbarred from the State of IL from practicing law. In addition, he can NEVER practice law again. Like his judgment to appoint a life long member means anything. He's a liar and should be shamed by Congress for acting as if he knows ANYTHING about law. He obviously doesn't.

He is a loser to think he could have gotten away with all the lies. That's on him. No matter who convinced him to run, he should have been straight with himself and said, Yo, I've committed to many crimes and they will eventually come out. I have no business running for President. That's on him. He knew the chance he was taking with this country when he decided to run with such a shady background.

14 posted on 04/13/2010 5:30:24 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn; All

Look, I can’t stand the Obamas either, but neither one of them has been disbarred. Both chose to go inactive and therefore can’t practice law in Illinois.

See:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105998

There are enough real and significant reasons to go after Obama that trumping up conspiracy theories just makes us look like the wingnuts the left thinks we are.


15 posted on 04/13/2010 5:37:58 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

If Obam ‘chose’ to go inactive it’s because he committed fraud. Clinton’s discovered it during the Primaries. And if the Clinton’s discovered it, you have to know other’s have the details. Obam was disbarred for lying on the Application which is grounds for disbarment.


16 posted on 04/13/2010 5:47:11 PM PDT by howkn
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To: cammie

No one is trumping up theories. Manning says he knows Obama lied on his Bar application, the Clinton’s found out and that’s why Obama gave up his license during the Primaries.

Maybe Manning will give greater insight during the upcoming trial. Obama is unfit to be choosing Justice’s when he himself lost his license do to lying on his application.

All reasons which chip away at Obma are significant as they paint a clear picture of Ob’s shady background and reveals why he should resign. Oba should resign to help our nation. He has messed up our country and he knew good and well he never should have ran due to his ineligibility as well as all the crimes he has committed.


17 posted on 04/13/2010 6:00:01 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

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18 posted on 04/13/2010 6:06:42 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: phockthis

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19 posted on 04/13/2010 6:06:59 PM PDT by howkn
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To: Polybius

As much as I enjoy listening to Rev. Manning’s addresses, the USC gave that power to the POTUS long before the “Bar” association was founded. Disbarment does not take that power away from the POTUS.


20 posted on 04/13/2010 6:07:57 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
It's a matter of ethics. It's a matter of hypocrisy and what a laughing stock our court system has become under Obam.

Never before...NEVER has our country had a Disbarred Illinois hack attorney appoint Supreme Court Justices. Talk about hypocrite.

The man doesn't have the moral or ethical authority to appoint Supreme Court Justices. Think of how this peon ridiculed the USSC during his speech.

They should spit on him. They had enough integrity to answer their questions on their Bar applications with honesty. Not Oba, he full on lies from the get go and has the audacity to lecture those who choose to answer the questions honestly on their applications. Obaminc does NOT want this argument brought up under any way shape or form because they know it shreds Obo in such a bad way. It shreds him because he's a hypocrite and he is disbarred from making any decision on Justice's.

21 posted on 04/13/2010 6:30:10 PM PDT by howkn
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To: phockthis

It’s like having a Dr who had their Medical License revoked, turning around and appointing the next Hospital Chief of Staff.

Or like having a serviceman who was dishonorably discharged from the Military appoint the next General.

Same with Obam. He has no business selecting the next Supreme Court Justices when he himself was disbarred from the legal field. He is not worthy of wiping their shoes. Even the Lib judges on the bench should be sticking it to Obam anyway they can. He was DISBARRED FROM ILLINOIS for LYING on HIS BAR APPLICATION.

He needs to resign.

Hope Manning spills ALL of Obam’s dirt during the trial.


22 posted on 04/13/2010 6:54:35 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

You know it’s a hot topic when even the underground dem posters avoid the thread. They must have learned from one of the last Manning threads on FR which probably gave Atlah’s youtube hit count a boost to 21000 views. Normal Atlah youtube views are a little over 1000, although they are growing every day.

Rahm must has sent word out to stop engaging Manning threads on FR, as it only helps spread Manning’s message.


23 posted on 04/13/2010 7:13:23 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn; All

Obama first went inactive in Illinois in 2005, long before any primaries, way before the Clintons would have shown any interest in the junior Senator from Illinois. And he’s not disbarred, he’s inactive - meaning he can reactivate his status as a lawyer at any time. If you’re disbarred, no reactivation. Do you seriously think Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and the rest would not be making major noise every day about it if he were disbarred?

Again, many reasons to go against Obama. No need to make up stories and bend the truth like he does.


24 posted on 04/13/2010 7:13:55 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

No, he is not inactive. He can no longer practice law. And if he lied on his BAR application, he is disbarred immediately. He obviously lied on his Bar application when he didn’t acknowledged his other aliases, aka: Barry Soetero.

He can’t practice Law again. Not that he ever did. But he will never hold another Law license as he lied on his application.


25 posted on 04/13/2010 7:19:08 PM PDT by howkn
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To: muawiyah

What responsibility does the ABA have re; fraud/no aliases on application when there are legal documents (soetoro divorce), as well as his memoir re: name change? As we know, the other documentation’s locked down.

Is there no need to report re: board/ABA even if the license was given up, or to inform former clients.


26 posted on 04/13/2010 7:31:06 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: cammie

If Murphy can be busted for lying on his Bar Application, so can Obuma

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/12/8/131242/355

As bad as the failure to detect his disbarment was, he was on active service when it happened. He joined, as a JAG officer, while suspended. How did he slide through there? Did he lie on his applications? On his initial clearances? That he didn’t see fit to turn himself in, or to resolve the issue, makes matters even worse. I mean, he had to sign documents and such - as an attorney - over the last 20 years, yet he couldn’t be honest enough to deal with the issue that he was disbarred....

But, it turns out, he was disbarred precisely because he was dishonest:

Murphy, a graduate of the University of Texas School of Law, first ran into trouble in 1981, when he failed to file an appeal on time for a client convicted of burglary, according to court documents.
In August 1982, Texas sued Murphy, accusing him of professional misconduct. A year later, as a result of that suit, Texas suspended Murphy’s law license for seven years. But in a January 1983 application to be admitted to the Louisiana bar, he stated under oath that he had never been sued nor been the subject of a disciplinary action.

Both Texas and Louisiana permanently disbarred Murphy for lying on his Louisiana bar application; Texas did so in May 1984 and Louisiana in September 1985.

Murphy joined the Air Force after being suspended by Texas but before being disbarred by either state.

So, to keep the chronology straight:

1981: as a civilian lawyer, failed to file an appeal on time for a client convicted of burglary
August 1982: Texas sued him, accusing him of professional misconduct.

January 1983: Applies to the Louisiana bar and states under oath he had never been sued nor been the subject of a disciplinary action.

August 1983: Texas suspended Murphy’s law license for seven years.

November 1983: Joined the Air Force - had to go through applications and clearances (under oath).

May 1984: Texas permanently disbarred Murphy for lying on his Louisiana bar application

September 1985: Louisiana permanently disbarred Murphy for lying on his Louisiana bar application.

December 2001-January 2003: General counsel to the White House Military Office

August 2003-January 2005: General counsel to the White House Military Office

January-June 2005: Commandant of the Air Force Judge Advocate General School.


27 posted on 04/13/2010 7:34:54 PM PDT by howkn
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You aren’t a lawyer, are you? ‘Cause you know squat about procedures surrounding being disbarred. And yes, I’m a lawyer.

First: There is no such thing as being disbarred immediately. Disbarrment requires proceedings in order to effectuate disbarrment.

Second: According to the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission, he is not disbarred. A cursory online search in the Illionis attorney licensure files shows both of the Obama’s statuses. Michelle went inactive in 1993. Obama first went inactive in 2005. In 2008, he voluntarily “retired” and the documentation of such can be found here, at the Illinois ARDC:

https://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=414726377

Third: Obama can practice law again as there have never been any disbarrment proceedings and there has been no adjudication proving that he lied on his application. Pursuant to the Illinois ARDC, when an attorney is retired, as Obama is, he can “unretire” or go back on active status by paying his back dues for each year he was on retirement status, and you may find documentation of such here:

https://www.iardc.org/registration/reg_faqs.html

Fourth: The canard you’re floating here has been floating around for quite a while. See here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lawlicenses.asp

So, in short, you’re wrong in every particular. I did a little search on you and see that you’ve been a Freeper for a grand total of 2 months and have posted some of the wildest conspiracy theories this site has seen in a while. I’m starting to wonder if you indeed are an Alinskyite here to make us all looks crazy.

So let me be among the first to say:

IBTZ


28 posted on 04/13/2010 7:40:59 PM PDT by cammie
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To: AliVeritas

ABA is a voluntary organization just like the AMA. You don’t even have to join it...the state bar association, and in this case the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission, has jurisdiction.


29 posted on 04/13/2010 7:42:27 PM PDT by cammie
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To: al baby
In a perfect world this would be the start of drawing up articles of impeachment

You know it.

30 posted on 04/13/2010 7:42:39 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: cammie

He lied on his IL Bar application, at some point he will be disbarred and he can no longer practice law. Because he didn’t state his previous name of Barry Soetero, he lied. He is disbarred so to speak. If you lie on your application you in essence no the final outcome is being disbarred.

Who cares if you are a lawyer. Just acknowledge that Obama lied on his application and he will NEVER practice law again and will NEVER be in a position to pass judgement on who should be the next Supreme Court Justice. The one and only person he’s put on the court will probably eventually be removed as he’s illegitimate.


31 posted on 04/13/2010 7:47:09 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

“If Murphy can be busted for lying on his Bar Application, so can Obuma”

Sure Obama can be. BUT HE HASN’T BEEN. And your whole inaccurate argument is that Obama’s already been busted for lying on his bar application. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO BAR ASSOCIATION PROCEEDINGS TO DISBAR HIM.


32 posted on 04/13/2010 7:47:40 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

If Manning has evidence that he lied on his application, Obam should address it prior to acting like the hack he is and trying to appoint a Justice.

The guy is a joke and a laughing stock....trying to appoint a Justice when he himself LIED on his application. And then to lecture the Justices during his fail of a speech.


33 posted on 04/13/2010 7:50:19 PM PDT by howkn
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IL is a snake pit. Whose to say they didn’t disbar him and someone covered it up.

IL is a corrupt state on most levels. Nothing is believable from any gov’t agency in that state, let alone anything to do with the Lying Disbarred Lawyer named Obam.


34 posted on 04/13/2010 7:53:20 PM PDT by howkn
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Okay, so now your argument changes to “at some point he will be disbarred.” Which was not your first argument. So you were busted and now you change your argument.

And even were Obama a disbarred attorney, he could STILL be President of the US and could STILL legitimately appoint a SCOTUS justice, as many have stated upthread.

Like I said...IBTZ. You were earlier posting conspiracy theories along the lines of Obama being in the CIA in the 1980s and now this. It’s a little too conveniently “Rules for Radicals.”

Oh, and I don’t particularly care either that I’m a lawyer. It’s a crappy profession, to be honest. But I DO care that Conservatives get their facts straight and don’t run around making other Conservatives look like wingnuts who can’t piece together a factual argument that holds together when light is shined upon it.


35 posted on 04/13/2010 7:56:33 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

Just posting Manning’s threads and speaking to his actual comments. Believe him that he will present evidence backing up what he’s stated. He states Obama is Disbarred. You disagree, either way if Obama LIED on his application he will eventually be disbarred if he already isn’t as Manning states.

You can’t lie on a Bar application and keep your license, even if one tries to stop it by inactivating it prior to disbarment.

Learn to scroll if you don’t like the Manning threads. Again, SCROLL.

Manning has a trial coming up on May 14 and there will continue to be multiple threads referencing updates about the upcoming Obama Trial where Manning states he has evidence that Obama committed fraud, mail fraud and wire fraud.

So again learn to scroll if you don’t like the topic. Manning states Obama is Disbarred. He claims to be providing proof for many things in his upcoming trial.

And Manning has a point, who is Obam to be appointing anyone to Supreme Court when he himself lied on his Bar application. He isn’t anyone and should step down for the good of the nation as he has lied.


36 posted on 04/13/2010 8:05:11 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn
he (Obama) has been disbarred from the State of IL from practicing law. In addition, he can NEVER practice law again

Where is the proof of this? I don't doubt it, but I need proof to show my liberal friends.

37 posted on 04/13/2010 8:06:10 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: howkn

A law degree is NOT a requirement to be on the SCOTUS.


38 posted on 04/13/2010 8:07:21 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: Jess Kitting

Manning states that Obama is Disbarred. He may provide the proof in the upcoming trial.


39 posted on 04/13/2010 8:08:26 PM PDT by howkn
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To: lonestar

A person who lied on a Bar application is in no position to be giving their opinion on who should be awarded the life time position as SC Justice.

It’s the height of hypocrisy. Obam lies on his Bar application on his background. No way can anyone expect the American people, who he works for, to think he has any legitimate ability to sit in judgement of selecting Supreme Court Justices.

It’s like the fired bank clerk turning around and thinking he has sound judgement for selecting who should be bank president....it doesn’t wash.


40 posted on 04/13/2010 8:12:07 PM PDT by howkn
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To: Jess Kitting

See my posts. Obama is not disbarred, and Manning is wrong. But, you know, Manning gave himself a Ph.D. from the “Theological Seminary” which he created to give himself a Ph.D....so who am I to argue with him?


41 posted on 04/13/2010 8:21:42 PM PDT by cammie
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To: howkn

No, I don’t disagree with Manning. I’m right, and Manning is wrong.


42 posted on 04/13/2010 8:22:26 PM PDT by cammie
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To: howkn

And it’s not a question of not liking the Manning threads. It’s a question of Manning false information that is easily fact-checke and proven false and designed to make Conservatives look stupid.


43 posted on 04/13/2010 8:25:20 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

Obama is disbarred so to speak, he lied on his application.


44 posted on 04/13/2010 8:28:02 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

There is no “disbarred so to speak”...it’s not like de facto excommunication. You’re either disbarred or your not. Perhaps someday he will be disbarred, but if he wanted to quit the Presidency, pay his back dues, unretire and practice law tomorrow, he could.


45 posted on 04/13/2010 8:29:16 PM PDT by cammie
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To: cammie

The man never acknowledged that he used to go by the name of Barry Soetero on his bar application. He lied. He is not worth of choosing Supreme Court Justices.


46 posted on 04/13/2010 8:34:39 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn
I wasn't thinking of Obama--pleasant relief--but making a statement that one does not have to be a lawyer to be on the SCOTUS.

And---why would you think BO would lie on his Bar exam when he lies to the American people on a daily basis?

47 posted on 04/13/2010 9:05:20 PM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: howkn

And we need to put something into place where Supreme Court Justices aren’t appointed for life. Also, maybe need some legal apparatus in place to the effect that if a President loses the confidence of the people within two years, whether it his eligibility, or the appearance of incompetence, actual seething dislike of his policies, a special election can be held and he can be out on his ear, too.


48 posted on 04/13/2010 9:07:35 PM PDT by kiltie65
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To: howkn
WE'VE GOT A DISPARRED LAWYER WHO IS THE DEFACTO HEAD, ExOfficio of the Supreme Court. WAKE UP AMERICA! America, Come On! We've got a Disbarred Lawyer who is the Ex=Officio of the US Supreme Court, in Barack Obama.

Then vote him out of office in 2012.

Until then, the U.S. Constitution does not give a rat's behind that he is or is not disbarred by a State.

49 posted on 04/13/2010 9:48:34 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Clump
Only Constitutional Federal laws trump state laws to the contrary.

What part of the U.S. Constitution giving POTUS the power to nominate Supreme Court Justices is unconstitutional?

There is an entire warehouse-full of legitimate issues out there to attack Obama with (check out my posting history and count how many times I have attacked Obama today) without choosing tin-foil hat issues that directly contradict the U.S. Constitution thereby making us look silly.

50 posted on 04/13/2010 9:58:06 PM PDT by Polybius
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