Producers of the future, inviting Expropriators to try and confiscate.
Posted on 04/14/2010 9:30:46 AM PDT by Ed Hudgins
America is drifting toward civil war, albeit one that does not yet involve bloody battlefields.
This is not mere rhetoric. It describes a crack in the American community that since Barack Obama’s election as president has widened into a deep fissure and might split the nation apart. The divide is not based on regional, racial, or religious differences, factors that often set neighbors at one another’s throats. Rather, the conflict is between producers, those who work to earn their own way and prosper through their own efforts, and expropriators, those who survive by taking from others with governments as their agents.
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What motivated hundreds of thousands of Americans to express their ire at government in Tea Party rallies coast to coast while others demonstrated at town hall meetings that saw members of Congress cowering before their angry constituents? What are the targets of outrage of those taking part in the 2010 Tax Day protests?
On top of 2008’s $700 billion bank bailout, there was the $800 billion stimulus package with a catalog of stupid and useless projects that could keep late-night comedians in jokes for years and that, by the way, did not stimulate the economy. There was the 2009 federal deficit of $1.4 trillion or 40% of the budget. There was the national debt, which was 50% of the GDP in 2008 and will approach 80% of the GDP in 2012.
And there was Obamacare, the new entitlements that will add at least $1 trillion, maybe $2 trillion—who can tell?—to the nation’s debt, with money borrowed from China to cover the overspending.
What’s new?
But governments have been redistributing wealth and spending wastefully big time since the New Deal. So what’s new today?
To begin with, the magnitude of the spending is unlike anything Americans…
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Agreed... the War has already started ... only the blood hasn’t started flowing yet!
The currency will collapse, putting an end to the federal government's "social safety net," "whether we like it or not."
The social parasites will be left to their own devices, and will immediately commence the looting and plundering.
At which point it will be open season on them.
America’s Coming Civil War battle lines:
1) collectivists vs individualists
2) black vs white vs brown
3) urban vs rural vs suburban
4) capitalist vs socialists
5) EVERYONE vs the federal government
We’ve been in a Cold Civil War for quite a few years already.
Since there is no equivalent to “Containment” and “Mutually Assured Destruction,” the fight is going to turn hot eventually.
The word “expropriator” is too fancy sounding and academic.
Borrow that beautifully fitting term from Ayn Rand’s ATLAS SHRUGGED. In the book they were called “LOOTERS”. Plain, simple and to the point language.
The “producers” vs the “looters”.
The question...”which are YOU?”
Not necessarily. My guess: Texas will secede by 2013 if we don't get a real American who loves this country in the White House, and they will take quite a few states with them. When that happens, I'm moving to Texas. If they do it right, which includes peacefully, Obama will let them go, thinking that he can consolidate power over the vestiges of the United States before he goes after real Americans who are willing to fight for freedom (the fact that he cannot count on the military to impose socialism on peaceful Americans will contribute to that decision). The Free States will quickly become far richer and stronger than the Socialist States, and they will eventually reunite, under a Constitution equivalent to the one we currently have in writing, but the difference will be that it will be treated as a sacred document that means what it says instead of a "living" document that means whatever an anti-American communist wants it to. The split will not be as bad as our first Civil War, not even as bad as the current terrible years under Obama.
Please ditch your skin-color generalities, Red. The rest of you stuff sticks, but color of skin does not individually make us collectivist, or suburban, or capitalist.
“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
— Robert A. Heinlein
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/205.Robert_A_Heinlein
It’s all part of social degradation caused by liberalism.
If you think about it, historically there was a bit of a stigma behind being a single mom. Mainly because it was much harder to raise a child by yourself.
Now, if a woman wants to be a single mom, she’s free to pop out as many as she wants, and the government will run to the rescue.
Nevermind the fact that the single most important factor on whether a kid will end up in jail or on drugs is if the child is from a home without a father.
But all the do-gooders and feel-gooders ignore that fact.
It’s fer the chilrun, right?
Love Heinlein.
And while we’re at it, let’s all re-read “Moon Is A Harsh Mistress,” Heinlein’s ultimate libertarian book!
“Looters” is quite correct! One problem in America is that many producers are also recipients of state handouts. For retirees, Social Security and Medicare is almost unavoidable. So there are a lot of otherwise honest and productive Americans who are sucked into the looter’s system.
Heading to Galt Gulch and loving it.
Happiness is knowing that 45 ACP fits both a M1911 and a Tommy. The revolution is coming.
You will not be picking a side. You are what you are; a producer or a looter. You will not be able to “blank out”.
Here's his definition of a monkey:
In the context of this book, a monkey is defined as a person that chooses to collectively seize, by unearned means, the property, material or intellectual, temporal or spiritual, of its rightful owner. The means employed may be fiat, guilt, force, theft, fraud, subterfuge, or anything other than a willing and negotiated exchange of value.In our modern world, each person is given the opportunity to make a conscious choice whether to be monkeys or men.
Conspicuously absent from this definition is race, birth, gender, heritage, cultural influences, or any factor other than that singular deliberate decision.
But men choose to live their lives upon their own merit. It is this very spirit of independence of thought and action that makes men the prey of the monkey collective.
As such, monkeys abandon their claim to the rights of men.
But monkeys could just as easily choose not to, and become men themselves.
Let's say that again: As such, monkeys abandon their claim to the rights of men. As befits any looter.
Then PETA (and the Swiss) come along and start assigning “human” rights to monkeys...
the “Cold Civil War”...or the Virtual War Between the States.....the state of “Prosperity and Frugality”...and the State of “Ivy League Sophomorism”
I dont believe that is an accurate statement.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2492136/posts
You may be right especially if things don’t turn around as a result of court challenges to 0bamacare, nullification efforts ,the taking one of the Houses in congress in 2010 and the White House in 2012 (and not a rino!)
Your time line of 2013 makes sense because this could happen after a stolen election by zero. By 2014, the mandates kick in and it would be difficult for any private insurance companies to survive. We also could have the specter of hyper-inflation and currency collapse which could precipitate martial law. That certainly could be the spark.
If the Texas governor (Perry) stands up and gets some of the contiguous plains and mountain states to follow him we will see interposition actions that allow the states to opt out of federal mandates. A game of chicken might ensue where the federal government refuses to release funds to the states and the states retaliate by allowing state citizens to stop paying federal income taxes. Then we will see who blinks first.
My other scenario is where Alaska takes the lead in breaking away. This might be facilitated by China. China could gain almost instant Pacific hegemony and also secure some oil contracts. Add a dollar collapse and there will be demand for an oil based currency among Alaskans. Alaska is difficult territory to hold and police by an occupying US force. Alaskans all have guns and can live off the land. They could hold out better than Afghanistan. With the US forces tied up in Alaska, Texas and the inter-mountain West could separate.
Producers of the future, inviting Expropriators to try and confiscate.
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