Video link for Polish plane site shots fired

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[353FMG]

Thank you for your expert analysis Herr General Guderian.

[justa-hairyape]

The wild card will be Germany, but the one thing we learned during the last century was that you can never ever trust a German. And I am about 25 % Austrian. Quite frankly, what is transpiring in Europe is painfully obvious. Any Americans with European roots who have studied the history of Europe, should easily recognize what is occurring. And Obama has only been helping the Russians at this point in time.

[353FMG]

“...that you can never ever trust a German.”

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It is not a matter of trust — they are truly the center of Europe. No Germany, no Europe. Hell, even the Romans got their asses whipped by the Hun.

Anything that happens in Germany has a ripple effect throughout Europe. Why do you think that there were so many Nazis outside of Germany? Most countries deny this, but check their history during WWII. Even Britain was rife with them and we (US) had a few sympathizers ourselves.

[justa-hairyape]

It is not a matter of trust — they are truly the center of Europe. No Germany, no Europe. Hell, even the Romans got their asses whipped by the Hun.

Romans and Germans fought to a stand still initially, but the Romans collapsed and the Germanic tribes expanded. The people who really kicked the Romans buts were the Picts. Did the Romans ever have to build a wall over a hundred miles long to keep the Germans out ?

Anything that happens in Germany has a ripple effect throughout Europe.

Germany is Western Europe. Eastern Europe was conquered by the Mongols. Central Europe overall successfully defended themselves from the Mongols. Poland represented the heart of the European defense of the Mongols. Western Europe would have been over run by the Mongols if it was not for the poles. There are the heart of Europe.

When you understand that history, everything happening in modern times, tends to make more sense.

[justa-hairyape]

Oops. Hadrians wall was about 73 miles long.

[little jeremiah]

The Poles also stopped the Muslims but I can’t remember dates or details. 1400 or 1500s.

[PghBaldy]

What do people think of this image which may show fire aboard the plane before it crashed? http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=134321&findnew#new

[justa-hairyape]

They saved the city of Vienna, Austria from the Ottomans (Turks). Wikipedia excerpt.

After twelve hours of fighting, the Poles held the high ground on the right. The Holy League cavalry waited on the hills, and watched the infantry battle for the whole day. Then at about 5 PM King of Poland ordered the attack, the cavalry attacked in four groups. One group was Austrian-German, and the other three were Polish. large numbers of men charged down the hills (the largest cavalry charge in history).[citation needed] The charge was planned and led by King of Poland Jan III Sobieski at the head of 3,000 Polish heavy lancers, the famed "Winged Hussars". The Lipka Tatars who fought on the Polish side wore a sprig of straw in their helmets to distinguish themselves from the Tatars fighting on the Turkish side. The charge broke the lines of the Ottomans, who were tired from the long fight on two sides. In the confusion, the cavalry headed straight for the Ottoman camps, while the remaining Vienna garrison sallied out of its defenses and joined in the assault.

Supposedly, the bagel was later born in Vienna to signify the Stirrups of the Winged Hussar. Some of the semi-factual historical battle details are very similar to a battle that occurs in the Lords of the Rings Trilogy. Where a large Calvary force arrives to save the day.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for the details.

[Freelance Warrior]

If anyone knows Russian or Polish, can you verify what the person with the camera is saying. This is Russian, not Polish.

That person speaks twice "WTF!"
Remote voices in the middle "get back! off we get away!", and at the brink of recognition someone else: "halt!"
At the end of the tape someone says "off you get away! he's driven away already! off we get away!"

[cunning_fish]

>I know some Russian and I know some Polish. Beyond such words as bread and water, the languages are dissimilar. Example: crime and punishment in Russian prestuplenie i nakazanie; in Polish zbrodnia i kara.>
If you knew it a bit better you could see more similarities than difference. Alligator and crocodile sounds extremely dissimilar for a Farsi speaker not for an English speaker who imagine different but similar species hearing it.
A word ‘kara’ is used in Russian as well where it stands as outdated ‘nakazanie’ or punishment. The word ‘prestuplenie’ or crime is understandable for a Polish speaker too.
I bet a Polish and a Russian talking both his own language may easily understand each other.

[luckybogey]

There is new internet speculation. This appears to be single sourced and not confirmed:

Author of the film "Smolensk KILLED after the disaster" Original Link: Polish

HOLY CRAP! The guy who filmed the shots fired at the POLISH PLANE CRASH WAS ASSASSINATED

You Tube Expanded w/Analysis Of Original Version

[marstegreg]

I speak russian. Ya sebe means “for myself” What it seems like to me is he is just a regular guy taking video. The first thing someone says to him is “hello” Then he makes it clear that the video is for his own use “for myself” then he hears the gun shots as some one yells “get back!” and again he says it is for himself. that’s about it. Hope this helps.

[marstegreg]

I took another look at the video and it while the train is going by and you hear people screaming someone is yelling at them to “get away from here.” Then some one says hello to him. Then he says it (the video) is for himself (including a choice word that I will not interpret) When the gun shot is fired someone yells “Get Back!” then the soldier yells something at him which I couldn’t hear clearly (I will go back and listen a few more times). Then he yells back (bad word) “for Myself”. meaning for “personal use”. then the video ends.