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GOP operatives crash the tea party
Politico ^ | 4-14-2010 | KENNETH P. VOGEL

Posted on 04/15/2010 6:24:41 AM PDT by Brookhaven

Just days after the first widespread tea party demonstrators hit the streets a year ago Thursday, Joe Wierzbicki, a Republican political consultant with the Sacramento firm Russo Marsh + Rogers, made a proposal to his colleagues that he said could “give a boost to our PAC and position us as a growing force/leading force as the 2010 elections come into focus.”

The proposal, obtained by POLITICO, was for a nationwide tea party bus tour, to be called the Tea Party Express, which over the past seven months has become among the most identifiable brands of the tea party movement. Buses emblazoned with the Tea Party Express logo have brought speakers and entertainers to rallies in dozens of small towns and big cities, including one in Boston on Wednesday that will feature former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010electionbias; crashtheteaparty; pravdamedia; teaparty; teapartyexpress
This story is being pushed hard by the left, and it is something we should discuss.

The left is trying to cause dissention within the Tea Party movement, so they are going to jump on everything they can find and spin it to their benefit. I have no problem with someone involed in the Tea Party movement making money. Even the Bible says "the laborer deserves his wages." It takes at least some full time staff to run any organization.

The other big criticism in this story is that the Tea Party Express actually had a plan. That's a bad thing?

On the other hand, we need to be vigilant. There is no doubt there are people that would love to co-opt the Tea Party movement for their own purposes. And I'm not just talking about the GOP. There are also plenty of 3rd parties and movements built around a single person (Ron Paul supporters, for example) that are trying to co-opt the Tea Party movement for their own purposes.

1 posted on 04/15/2010 6:24:41 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

What is there to discuss. Telling people that have organizing skills and understand the political landscape to take a hike.
As long as they have shared values and goals ofcourse they should be welcomed.

You never turn away talent.


2 posted on 04/15/2010 6:29:42 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Brookhaven

The only way to defuse this tripe is to attack liberal GOPers just as vigorously as we attack the Socialist Democrats.


3 posted on 04/15/2010 6:31:25 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Brookhaven

I saw this was the lead story on Olberman last night. He is pushing it as some evil plot.

PS

I occasionally flip to Olberman bacause (1) I have an uncle that watches MSNBC religiously, and gets no news from anywhere else; and (2) I feel like I need to know what the spin comming from the hard left is.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 6:31:45 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: Brookhaven

Nothing ever written in Politico is reliable. They have no credibility as they are a wholly owned entity of the far far left.


5 posted on 04/15/2010 6:32:22 AM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: Brookhaven
Perhaps this is the problem with the PAC.

" Before its tea party days, however,
the PAC aired ads praising Palin,
both during and after her unsuccessful GOP vice presidential campaign,
“for serving the people of America with a servant’s heart,
” standing up to “the liberal media” and teaching her son
about “the honor and valor of serving in our nation’s armed forces.”

6 posted on 04/15/2010 6:33:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Syncro; Jim Robinson

ping


7 posted on 04/15/2010 6:34:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Carley

Politicio (sic) is proRINO proROMNEY anti Gov.Palin.


8 posted on 04/15/2010 6:34:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Marty62

I agree with you, but the left is pushing this story as though it is some evil plot. Not everyone is that politically astute. We need to counter the idea the left is putting out that there isn’t anyplace in the Tea Party movement for professionals.

You saw this same type of story popping up with that Tea Party convention that happened in Nashville. The press was critical of the organizers because (gasp) they were charging admission and might actually (gasp) end up making a slight profit.


9 posted on 04/15/2010 6:35:02 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: Brookhaven; Jim Robinson

Is that the way it happened?


10 posted on 04/15/2010 6:37:23 AM PDT by Ingtar (Congress: proof that Entropy trumps Evolution)
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To: Diogenesis

Politico prints nothing that isn’t directly from the WH fax machine.


11 posted on 04/15/2010 6:39:02 AM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: Brookhaven

on fox and friends today they had a story about the counter tea party where the rats plan to join the tea party but then make stupid signs with misspelled words and to cause fights and shout racial slurs at people.

So they are trying to devalue the tea party brand from within. It’s an all out attack from the liberal power base from each party.


12 posted on 04/15/2010 6:39:52 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Carley

True words!

LLS


13 posted on 04/15/2010 6:44:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Carley

Sad to say, you are right on about the “Obama” communications organ known as “Politico”. “Politico” founders, Jim Vandehei and Mike Allen are nothing but major spinners for Barack Hussein Obama and the Democrat Party. Those two gentlemen would not know political objectivity and fairness if it struck them in the face.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 6:46:59 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Brookhaven

When I attended the Tea Party Express event in Jackson, Michigan last summer, I wondered how they could afford the big, plush, custom-painted buses. Who was bankrolling them?

The bottom line, though, is I showed up. Nobody paid me, nobody offered me kickbacks, bribes or freebies to be there. I did the research for the event myself using my own time and computer. I wasn’t given a sign paid for by a group or union, and I even bought a “NOBAMA” button from an enterprising young man selling them.

These events are dependent on people SHOWING UP. The only buses I saw were the two belonging to the Tea Party Express, and I’m sure nobody was “organized” with promises of a day off work if they went.


15 posted on 04/15/2010 6:47:17 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Brookhaven

So the argument is that we shouldn’t link up with and use the talents of people who are good at organization?

I don’t think I’m buying that.


16 posted on 04/15/2010 6:54:37 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Brookhaven

>>You saw this same type of story popping up with that Tea Party convention that happened in Nashville. The press was critical of the organizers because (gasp) they were charging admission and might actually (gasp) end up making a slight profit.

Bingo!

And as someone who was there, I can say this was discussed at length among many of the attendees. No one I talked to had a problem with it, and people generally thought that the pricing was reasonable. And these are people who had typically been to similar events for professional society conventions, continuing education and the like.

You don’t like the price of admission? Don’t go! How hard is that?


17 posted on 04/15/2010 6:54:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Brookhaven

Sometimes, when they attack like this, the correct answer is, “So what?” or, “What’s wrong with that?” instead of people getting defensive.


18 posted on 04/15/2010 6:55:47 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Without the Constitution, there is no America!)
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To: Brookhaven
The Left is scared to death over this truly grass roots movement, because they know it can and will produce effective political results. It's exactly how our democratic Republic is supposed to work — unlike the constant phony and staged “protests” orchestrated by their left wing “groups”.
19 posted on 04/15/2010 6:56:58 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Brookhaven

Actually, a lot of the criticism of the Nashville event came from the leadership of many local tea party leaders who were leery of an outside group canniblizing the tea party name. Turned out that those concerns were mostly unfounded but the profit issue does undermine the grassroots format somewhat.

It’s hard to present yourself as a non-profit group that welcomes all when somebody else presents their self as part of your movement, and seeks to turn a profit while doing so.


20 posted on 04/15/2010 7:02:34 AM PDT by meyer (It's time...)
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To: Brookhaven

I am a really, really thrifty person but if someone is offering something for money that I find beneficial, I will pay for it and if that someone makes a profit, good for them.

If a Tea Partier was selling hot dogs and soda during a rally and I was hungry, I’d buy them and hope they were making money. At least I’d know that the money was going to someone who supports Capitalism.


21 posted on 04/15/2010 7:06:09 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Brookhaven; All

I saw this was the lead story on Olberman last night. He is pushing it as some evil plot.

Yes, the Left is QUITE creative when it comes to their little Conspiracies, like:

— The GOP intends to crash Conservative Tea Party Rallies in order to place blame the Democrats, while also preserving the GOP leadership's own RINO power-base

Global Warming

Dick Cheney's "heart attacks" are actually long-term lung injuries he received while SCUBA training to blow up the dams in New Orleans

Halliburton's hurricane machine (Katrina)

9/11 Truthers

Soros' 2010 October Surprise will be to have Obama pull a copy of an original Birth Certificate out of his back pocket, proving he's been TRUTHFUL the WHOLE time, just to embarrass Conservatives and thereby win the 2010 election (yes, this is really on some Left-wing websites AND was also "threatened" against the Hillary campaign in 2008)


22 posted on 04/15/2010 7:18:27 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Brookhaven

I don’t see a problem here. The Tea Party Express (TPE) is what it is. Go to one of their rallies or else don’t. Give them a buck or else don’t. What’s the beef?

Organizing and operating the TPE costs money and requires talent and man-hours. There is nothing wrong with skilled, working people getting paid.

If others think they have ideas that will help our country better than the TPE then let them go for it. The people can decide who to support with their donations.

This article seems to say that the relationship between the TPE PAC and the consulting firm that organized it is normal and that the money spent is typical for this type of operation. What’s the beef?


23 posted on 04/15/2010 7:20:13 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Brookhaven
Notice that the MSM and “non-biased” blogs like Politico (ha) were silent over Soros, CPUSA, etc backing different protest organizations.

The Pravda Media lies. Lies by omission are lies as well.

They can type of their talking points to cause suspicion but they can't diffuse the spirit.

24 posted on 04/15/2010 7:24:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Brookhaven
TPE, FWorks and AFP have been instrumental in paying for folks to get to D.C. and other cities. The protests would have been less impressive with fewer people. The left has NO grassroots protests. they are ALL bankrolled by fatcat unions and 501c3 orgs. Every time. But of course the Media dutifully portrays these events as "grassroots".

Much ado about nothing, imho. And by the way, I saw Debbie Dooley of TPP on CBS, and she came across as a nutcase. Someone tell her to take her meds.

25 posted on 04/15/2010 7:33:35 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Brookhaven

As long as the participants main goal is to vote out socialists, why care who crashes? The more the merrier!


26 posted on 04/15/2010 7:36:03 AM PDT by coaltrain
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To: Grunthor

If you see one guy jaywalking, and another mugging an 85-year-old lady, do you attack them both just as vigorously?


27 posted on 04/15/2010 7:36:50 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Brookhaven

Who cares what the Left says about the Tea Parties? Ignore them. The only power they have is if you take them seriously, which I don’t. I haven’t heard an honest criticism of the Tea Party movement from the Left yet - and I won’t.


28 posted on 04/15/2010 7:38:23 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'm so old, I remember when free enterprise was praised, and communism was shunned.)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Grunthor

We can do both - cleaning out the GOP of its elitists while realizing the ultimate goal is cleaning out the entire government.

Pretty simple strategy, actually,

campaign and vote against the RINO in the primary
and against the ‘rat in the general.


29 posted on 04/15/2010 7:40:49 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Brookhaven

Thank heavens someone knew what to do and acted!


30 posted on 04/15/2010 7:41:29 AM PDT by aphid (We'll keep clinging to our Constitution, our guns, and our religion - you can keep the change!)
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To: Brookhaven
A little hypocritical, don't you think, considering the left regularly buses in union thugs and other radicals for their protests and have even gone as far as bribing them for their votes.
31 posted on 04/15/2010 7:42:58 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: MrB

I can agree with that. It makes me sick to see that the largest earmarker in the Senate is Thad Cochran, (R) MS. RINOs are making it pretty difficult to revive the majorities we had and blew.


32 posted on 04/15/2010 7:43:21 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: MrB
campaign and vote against the RINO in the primary and against the ‘rat in the general.

Absolutely!

33 posted on 04/15/2010 7:43:32 AM PDT by RedMDer (0 = one D Ten T : Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Brookhaven

51% of Tea Party Supporters are Democrats and Independents. - Gallup.


34 posted on 04/15/2010 7:44:42 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (http://www.teapartyslogans.com/cgi-bin/web/index.cgi)
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To: Cyber Liberty
If you see one guy jaywalking, and another mugging an 85-year-old lady,

The jaywalker is REPUBLICAN! GET HIM!!!!!

The mugger is Democrat. The old biddy had it comin', man.

35 posted on 04/15/2010 7:46:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: MrB; All

“campaign and vote against the RINO in the primary
and against the ‘rat in the general.”

This can’t be repeated often enough.


36 posted on 04/15/2010 7:48:11 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Sometimes, when they attack like this, the correct answer is, “So what?” or, “What’s wrong with that?” instead of people getting defensive.

Best reply for diffusing Liberals. Conservatives don't need to be defensive, but Liberals do!

"Why are you concerned about this?" or "How are you involved?" Turn the tables on the Liberals and recall Saul Alinsky's statement that the aggressor sets the rules. A person can go on the offensive without being mean-spirited. Well, Conservatives can. I don't think I've met a true Liberal that hasn't resorted to some kind of mean or ugly statement directed to the person rather than to the person's principles, morals or ethics. I'm friends with a few Liberals and if we discuss politics the discussion always ends with my friends questioning MY intelligence. I just smile and tell them I won't argue because in the end, the truth will come out.
37 posted on 04/15/2010 8:00:10 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

when they attack like this, the correct answer is, “So what?” or, “What’s wrong with that?” instead of people getting defensive.

$$$$$

Precisely. All they know how to do is “fight.” So they attack. In every way they can possibly think of. If one of their attacks doesn’t brush us back, another one will.

We have to STOP trying to appease them, and start standing our ground, and pushing forward.


38 posted on 04/15/2010 8:01:10 AM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Brookhaven; Syncro; Impeach98; Lloyd Marcus

Joe Wierzbicki (of the Tea Party Express) is a long time FReeper as are many other Tea Party members. FReepers were tea partiers long before the Tea Party movement was formed.


39 posted on 04/15/2010 8:07:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Lazamataz

That’s correct. The Democrat mugger is simply redistributing the wealth to himself. I’m sure the rock of crack he buys has a larger profit potential than the cans of dog food she was going to go buy for dinner....


40 posted on 04/15/2010 8:15:51 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Brookhaven

Here’s Joe’s response to this article:

I’ve got some very big news to share with you that up until now has been a secret.

Today, Ken Vogel, a reporter for Politico.com broke a fairly big scoop. He managed to obtain a copy of what had been a very secret strategic planning memo I had written in my capacity as Coordinator of the Tea Party Express exactly one year ago.

And so now since the word is out, we wanted to share this strategy memo with you, our supporters. We are very excited to finally be able to share with you the behind-the-scenes strategic thinking that was behind the incredible success of the Tea Party Express.

You see the Tea Party Express wasn’t an accident. It was a carefully considered and well-planned project that was designed to enage local tea party groups all across the country to join together to make a difference and help take our country back - while still allowing those local groups to retain their independence and autonomy. And it’s been a phenomenal success that has infuriated the Left and many within the media as well.

Keep reading for more details below, but if you simply can’t wait, you can read what had been the secret memo for yourself - HERE.

As you’ll note when you read the memo, the plan was to find a way to engage in political action to defeat the worst of the tax-spend-bailout Democrats and RINO Republicans in Congress.

And for the past year, YOU - our supporters, have helped us to implement this plan. We have achieved a success far beyond our wildest dreams, and I know from reading your emails and talking to you at the 100+ tea party rallies we’ve held across this nation how excited you are about all that we have achieved.

We spent over $350,000 to help elect Scott Brown - and employed a national TV advertising campaign when the local advertising inventory sold out, so we could reach voters in the state via a medium that the Democrats had failed to think of using.

We helped to force the retirement of sellout Congressman Bart Stupak, after launching a $250,000 “Defeat Bart Stupak” TV and radio advertising blitz and series of 5 Tea Party Express rallies throughout his rural Michigan district.

We stood up for Doug Hoffman (the Conservative Party candidate) over the RINO Republican, Dede Scozzafava in Upstate New York. We almost beat the establishment of BOTH the Democrat and Republican parties. You see, we here at the Tea Party Express stand for conservatism, and sadly the Republican Party at times needs to be reminded to adhere to its conservative principles.

And, perhaps most notably, we’ve spent over $500,000 to “Defeat Harry Reid” - more than any other group - and watched as Reid’s poll numbers have plunged along the way. You saw the impact we had at the start of this tour when we brought out 20,000 people to the middle of the desert for the “Showdown in Searchlight.”

We don’t just TALK about doing things, with your help we’ve taken real ACTION. And we did so without being a part of the political establishment.

So, please, take a few moments and read this memo, now that it’s out in the public domain. We’ve already been putting together new strategies reflective of the current political environment we face, and you are going to be very excited about what we have in store from this point until November 2010 congressional elections!

FIRST: Read the once-secret memo - HERE.

SECOND: After you’ve done so, please support our efforts to achieve even greater success. Please make a contribution to the Tea Party Express - HERE.


41 posted on 04/15/2010 8:16:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hear, hear! I’ve been a tea partier since April, 1998!


42 posted on 04/15/2010 8:17:12 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Brookhaven

There are plenty of political virgins in the TPM. We can not allow them to be hoodwinked by the Dum Washington Propaganda machine.

Onward and upward.


43 posted on 04/15/2010 8:22:28 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Brookhaven

It is pushed hard by the left because it is written by the left.


44 posted on 04/15/2010 8:26:47 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Brookhaven
This is no different with what happened to the Minutemen movement.

Tancredo turned Team America PAC over to the Buchannans, and Chris Simcox aligned with Alan Keyes.

45 posted on 04/15/2010 9:16:02 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Brookhaven

First of all, simply saying “the GOP is trying to take over the Tea Parties” is disingenuous. Based on the numbers I saw the other day in some thread here on FR, something like half of registered Republicans consider themselves Tea Partiers, compared to a quarter of Independents and 9% of Democrats. Like it or not, the Tea Parties are a Republican gig, by and large. We definitely should not be turning away conservative Republican politicians and operatives who want to get on board and help push the principles espoused in this conservative activism.


46 posted on 04/15/2010 11:13:22 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Perhaps you should re-read my post and then (this time) apply some thought.


47 posted on 04/15/2010 12:15:22 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: Jim Robinson; dirtboy
Thanks Jim for posting that

I haven't been online except for at the poofter hotel commuters for several days so am missing much email info

Thanks for the ping dirtboy

More later, end of tour dinner in a couple of hours.

At that same restaurant as last time Jim

48 posted on 04/15/2010 3:02:26 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXIII Day 19!)
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To: Grunthor

Ooops. Boy, do I feel like a dope.


49 posted on 04/15/2010 3:25:25 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Cyber Liberty

np


50 posted on 04/15/2010 7:28:59 PM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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