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Federal judge rules Day of Prayer unconstitutional
AP via SFGate ^ | 4/15/10

Posted on 04/15/2010 1:01:15 PM PDT by SmithL

Madison, Wis. (AP) -- A federal judge in Wisconsin says the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb issued the ruling Thursday in a lawsuit filed by the Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: activistjudge; atheismandstate; barackhusseinobama; barbaracrabb; bhoprayer; freedomfromreligion; freedomofreligion; immoralabsolutes; jimmycarter; judicialtyranny; moralabsolutes; obama; sicsempertyranis; wisconsin
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1 posted on 04/15/2010 1:01:15 PM PDT by SmithL
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Crabb, Barbara Brandriff
Born 1939 in Green Bay, WI

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Western District of Wisconsin
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on July 21, 1979, to a new seat created by 92 Stat. 1629; Confirmed by the Senate on October 31, 1979, and received commission on November 2, 1979. Served as chief judge, 1980-1996. Assumed senior status on March 24, 2010.

U.S. Magistrate, U.S. District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin, 1971-1979

Education:
University of Wisconsin, Madison, B.A., 1960
University of Wisconsin Law School, LL.B., 1962

Professional Career:
Private practice, Madison, Wisconsin, 1962-1964
Research assistant, George Bunn, University of Wisconsin Law School, 1968-1969
Research assistant, ABA Project on Minimum Standards of Criminal Justice, 1970-1971

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Female

2 posted on 04/15/2010 1:02:35 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Next headline:

Federal judge declares jihad against National Day of Prayer.


3 posted on 04/15/2010 1:03:26 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: SmithL

What a bunch of BS. Does anyone have the ruling? I want to see the logic.

Perhaps she’s wanting a shot at the big court.


4 posted on 04/15/2010 1:04:06 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SmithL

did obama file the suit...??...lol...


5 posted on 04/15/2010 1:04:20 PM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: SmithL
She joined the court in 1979 after being nominated by President Jimmy Carter.
6 posted on 04/15/2010 1:04:54 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: glorgau

Out of control judge; they need to be impeach


7 posted on 04/15/2010 1:05:13 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: SmithL

Let’s just form two countries and get it over with...


8 posted on 04/15/2010 1:05:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SmithL

Bet that a Muslim Day of Prayer would be allowed though!


9 posted on 04/15/2010 1:05:20 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: SmithL

What is Christmas? will it be declared unconstitutional next? Then Easter then 4th of july.


10 posted on 04/15/2010 1:05:44 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: SmithL
So what. This judge can just go pound sound for all I care.

I'm not going along with the ruling and I dare the judge to send the US Marshalls to come around and make me conform.

Besides, judges do not have the authority to determine what is or is not legitimately religious in this country.

11 posted on 04/15/2010 1:06:32 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: mgstarr

And we’ll still be living with Obama 30+ years from now as well.


12 posted on 04/15/2010 1:07:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SmithL

NOW Zero will cancel the National Day of Payer. He was just waiting for the ruling.


13 posted on 04/15/2010 1:07:12 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: JoSixChip

But black history month is mandatory. Welcome to post racial America.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 1:07:37 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: SmithL

didn’t the first Continental Congress initiate a National Day of Prayer? I believe Lincoln did so too. Before the secularists who stole Thanksgiving Day and turned it into first graders wearing paper pilgrim bags and playing with turkeys and indians, that was a national day of prayer too. Whom were we giving Thanks to on Thanksgiving Day, after all, if not the God of the Christians?


15 posted on 04/15/2010 1:08:50 PM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: SmithL
lawsuit filed by the Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Last time I checked I had Freedom OF religion, not Freedom FROM religion!

16 posted on 04/15/2010 1:09:48 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER)
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To: SmithL

Freedom from religion isn’t in the U.S.Constitution. What this judge has done violates, literally, our rights.

If you don’t want to pray, then don’t. If you don’t like someone’s religous message, walk away, run away or ignore it. What you can’t do is tell them to shut up!

Islam, IMHO however, has major tenets that are patently unconstitutional. No more of its adherents should be allowed to immigrate into the United States. Those Muslims already here should have their politiical activities proscribed.


17 posted on 04/15/2010 1:11:40 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SmithL
Kind of interesting on the same day that the Escondido, California City Council voted unanimously to put the religious icon of an obscure Shinto cult (aka: a “peace pole”) in the courtyard at city hall. Apparently intermixing church and state is okay as long as the church isn't Christian.
18 posted on 04/15/2010 1:11:57 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: JoSixChip
-- What is Christmas? will it be declared unconstitutional next? --

What is Thanksgiving?

19 posted on 04/15/2010 1:12:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SmithL

So Gay pride day and all this other BS in schools is what our founder fathers intended? FUSCOTUS!

This is beyond out of hand....This is not America as I knew it anymore.


20 posted on 04/15/2010 1:13:09 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: SmithL

OH ... MadiSTAN!! Never mind.


21 posted on 04/15/2010 1:13:13 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Obama ... Mein Kampf is NOT a Textbook!!)
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To: SmithL

Liberal white females - the source of most problems.


22 posted on 04/15/2010 1:13:23 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: MrB

I agree.


23 posted on 04/15/2010 1:14:02 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: SmithL

Obama has got to like this. He has dodged a political bullet. Now he can say that the judiciary has prevented him from doing the Day of Prayer (even though 0 did not want to anyway).


24 posted on 04/15/2010 1:14:34 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: JoSixChip

Yes and yes and I wouldn’t be surprised to see the 4th go.... From acquaintances, I’m aware that there are many people in powerful positions who frown upon recognizing milestones in a nation’s history. It’s a Globalist thing.


25 posted on 04/15/2010 1:15:26 PM PDT by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: SmithL
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Did this Federal Judge got to Law School, has she ever read the US Constitution? There is no requirement to pray, nor is there any direction as to what religion you must follow.

26 posted on 04/15/2010 1:16:11 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: SmithL

I find this amusing. Jews, Catholics, Mormons, and others, were excluded as per Mrs. focus-on-the-family which I thought was unconstitutional but there was nothing I could do about it. Like I said, I find this amusing.


27 posted on 04/15/2010 1:19:02 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: SmithL

Its freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion


28 posted on 04/15/2010 1:19:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MrB
Let’s just form two countries and get it over with...

Frankly I'm beginning to think that's the only solution. The political schism in this country seems irreconcilable.

29 posted on 04/15/2010 1:19:41 PM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: SmithL
Nominated by Jimmy Carter on July 21, 1979...

Whodda thunk it? /s

30 posted on 04/15/2010 1:19:42 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SmithL
I never went to law school, nor took an online course, but even I can figure out that a “national day of prayer” is nowhere near the ballpark of establishing a state religion.

How is it these people are ever taken seriously?

31 posted on 04/15/2010 1:22:37 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: ScottinVA

Oh anything is reconcilable. Through natural extension of politics through other means. Per Von Clausewitz.


32 posted on 04/15/2010 1:24:31 PM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: mojitojoe

As Prof Williams said -

should we continue to attempt to force our worldview on each other through the government,

or should we just peaceably part company.

They don’t want responsibility “forced” on them,
we don’t want collectivism force on us.

Let’s separate, divide the country at the state level,
let people freely emigrate,
and call it amicable.


33 posted on 04/15/2010 1:25:46 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SmithL

How about the in-school “Day of Silence” if you tell them you are going to use it to pray for sinners?


34 posted on 04/15/2010 1:27:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: jiminycricket000
Wikipedia: National Day of Prayer entry
35 posted on 04/15/2010 1:29:25 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: jiminycricket000
Whom were we giving Thanks to on Thanksgiving Day, after all, if not the God of the Christians?

Thank you FDR for Social Security checks.

Thank you LBJ for Medicare checks.

Thank you OHB for Socialized medicine.

Thank you Karl Marx, leader of us all for showing us the error of our ways.

36 posted on 04/15/2010 1:30:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: MrB

We need to seriously consider doing that. This country is pretty evenly divided. We just need to have Northern America and Southern America. The south keeps the military. The north keeps the Dept. of Peace.


37 posted on 04/15/2010 1:31:05 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SmithL

Jimmy Carter appointee. I'm afraid there are a ton of judges sitting at their benches out there who wouldn't know what the Constitution was if it bit them on the *ss.

38 posted on 04/15/2010 1:31:22 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

What is THAT?
My pattern recognition circuitry is shorting out.


39 posted on 04/15/2010 1:34:24 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SmithL
In a small way, I can kind of see her point:

Government involvement in prayer is constitutional only as long as it does not call for religious action, which the prayer day does, U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb wrote in her ruling.

"It goes beyond mere 'acknowledgment' of religion because its sole purpose is to encourage all citizens to engage in prayer, an inherently religious exercise that serves no secular function in this context," Crabb wrote. "In this instance, the government has taken sides on a matter that must be left to individual conscience."


But then again...

"It is unfortunate that this court failed to understand that a day set aside for prayer for the country represents a time-honored tradition that embraces the First Amendment, not violates it," ACLJ Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow said in a statement.
40 posted on 04/15/2010 1:34:53 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: Cicero
Back at you, with a vengeance:

41 posted on 04/15/2010 1:36:57 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SmithL
Trolling for a seat on the SCOTUS??? Odinga are you paying attention?

This judge(????) is nuts! An official day of prayer is not exactly analogous to "establishing" a religion. Is there much doubt this will be overturned? The depths to which lefty judges will go to make work for their "profession" is nothing short of amazing. TRULY a waste of taxpayers' money.

42 posted on 04/15/2010 1:52:31 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: SmithL

She “retired” from fulltime last year so she could concentrate on destroying whatever is left of God references in this country. http://www.wisbar.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&CONTENTID=83307

God will not be amused when she is brought before Him during her judgement.


43 posted on 04/15/2010 1:52:36 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: SmithL

Let’s have a Socialist-Communist Day! Hug your neighbor and steel his walet in the name of social justice.


44 posted on 04/15/2010 1:55:31 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: tiredoflaundry
Last time I checked I had Freedom OF religion, not Freedom FROM religion!

My first thought as well. Just another judge who can't read plain english.

45 posted on 04/15/2010 2:01:43 PM PDT by zeugma (Waco taught me everything I needed to know about the character of the U.S. Government.)
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To: Cboldt

Yup, Christmas is next. Then there is New Years Day, which which discriminates against Chinese New Year parades. And what about Mothers Day, which promotes the impregnating of women, a form of slavery. And don’t forget Fathers Day, which was obviously propounded as a celebration of all that is oppressive.

That leaves three hundred and fifty nine more days to outlaw before America is fundamentally transformed. As we begin address this challenge, we face a looming crisis in the supply of lawyers, judges, and watchdog groups. Are we up to the challenge? The whole world is watching. If the rest of the world’s inhabitants are not laughing their asses off right now, they would have to be as silly as we are.


46 posted on 04/15/2010 2:04:00 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: SmithL

Cmon, what do you expect from a Judge named CRABB!!


47 posted on 04/15/2010 2:06:44 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: SmithL

Good name for a Jimmuh Cahtuh appointee.


48 posted on 04/15/2010 2:08:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: JoSixChip

I want this idiot judge to starting holding court on Christmas.


49 posted on 04/15/2010 2:08:35 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: broken_arrow1

steeling my wallet against my government!


50 posted on 04/15/2010 2:11:12 PM PDT by rahbert (Wallet of steel!)
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