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Obama orders same-sex hospital visits
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Posted on 04/15/2010 9:00:23 PM PDT by LouAvul

President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors and to grant their partners medical power of attorney.

The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation. The memo is scheduled to be made public Friday morning, according to an administration official and another source familiar with the White House decision.

An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

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I wonder if the average democRAT realizes what an abomination liberalism is to the world. Or are they all that stupid?
1 posted on 04/15/2010 9:00:24 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
So, until the "messiah" came along, "gays" and lesbians weren't allowed visits by "non-family" members? I didn't know that.

sarc/

2 posted on 04/15/2010 9:03:22 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution!)
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To: LouAvul

Micromanager. Sign of immaturity, insecurity, arrogance, inefficiency. What the tar is the President doing paying attention to local issues when the nation is drowning in debt and joblessness?


3 posted on 04/15/2010 9:03:53 PM PDT by lurk
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To: LouAvul

An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

Once the government has you addicted to DC Crack, you are their bit(h!


4 posted on 04/15/2010 9:04:02 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: LouAvul

Micromanager. Sign of immaturity, insecurity, arrogance, inefficiency. What the tar is the President doing paying attention to local issues when the nation is drowning in debt and joblessness?


5 posted on 04/15/2010 9:04:51 PM PDT by lurk
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To: LouAvul

So what happens when a “gay” relationship comes into conflict with one by conventional marriage? Or three gays claim to be a threesome, or it’s two gays and a horse, or whatever?


6 posted on 04/15/2010 9:05:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LouAvul

This memorandum is not worth the paper it is printed on.


7 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:06 PM PDT by microgood
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To: lurk

A sop to the ratty base


8 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:21 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LouAvul

I don’t disagree with this. People in a committed relationship should be able to visit their loved ones in the hospital. Obama actually took one of the bigger arguments for gay marriage off the table.


9 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:30 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: LouAvul

So now Il Douche is running the hospitals? That didn’t take long...


10 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:45 PM PDT by Hardraade
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To: LouAvul

It’s good to know he’ll be able to visit Larry Sinclair if he falls ill, ain’t it?


11 posted on 04/15/2010 9:06:54 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LouAvul

This will not sit well with the many religious based hospital groups, such as the largely Catholic Providence system...

Governing by fiat...


12 posted on 04/15/2010 9:07:38 PM PDT by Bean Counter (My name is Obammymandius, King of kings: look upon my works ye mighty, and despair...)
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To: pissant

You beat me to it.


13 posted on 04/15/2010 9:08:27 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: LouAvul

What in Bummercare did he hang this EO off of, anyhow? Without a law, this is so much blither.


14 posted on 04/15/2010 9:09:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LouAvul

So boyfriend of three days comes into comotose man’s room. Claims partner status and begins making medical decisions with no written POA, will hospital be liable when comatose man wakes up and asks why treatments authorized by boyfriend were given, when mom and dad should have been making decisions? Can hospital use the Obama defense??


15 posted on 04/15/2010 9:10:00 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: LouAvul

Is this important? Who cares who can come see you in the hospital if YOU want to see them? Does this really need a law???


16 posted on 04/15/2010 9:10:15 PM PDT by Woodstock (: > CAP Mom)
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To: LouAvul

This punk gets to order hospitals around? Most are getting Federal money from at least Medicare patients. But that’s just reimbursement


17 posted on 04/15/2010 9:10:17 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Intensive care units don’t allow non family members.


18 posted on 04/15/2010 9:11:25 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: LouAvul
Probably asked in other threads on this subject, but I'll propose it here......

Is this really the most pressing problem in the country requiring his attention?

19 posted on 04/15/2010 9:11:37 PM PDT by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: Woodstock

Note to self, big government has run out of good ideas.


20 posted on 04/15/2010 9:11:54 PM PDT by Woodstock (: > CAP Mom)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yeah, and silly me. I thought living wills could establish power-of-attorney and end-of-life calls.


21 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:01 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Kleon

Yes, but how is the hospital supposed to determine the committed relationship in the case one of the partners is comatose? Upon what proof do they rely. This is easily solved by a written POA executed by the parties involved..


22 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:03 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: LouAvul

stupid..you cant legislate relationships...duh


23 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:22 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dennisw

It would be Congress that would have the authority to hang the power of the purse over the heads of these hospitals. Normally. But with the cracker jack box that is Bummercare, who knows what it sayeth.


24 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LouAvul

How much power does a memorandum have? Also, what hospital stops non-family members from visiting or staying with loved ones? I’ve stayed with friends before (no family in the state). Obama is just grandstanding again.


25 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:36 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Kleon

“I don’t disagree with this. People in a committed relationship should be able to visit their loved ones in the hospital. Obama actually took one of the bigger arguments for gay marriage off the table.”

I’m sure that’s the point...personally, I don’t give a rat’s ass what this idiot does, as long as it is lawful, because it can be undone. I doubt he has the authority and it is a stunt. Politics by stunt, dividing the country (as this SURELY will) and revving up the leftists base by fueling a fire is the community organizer’s stock in trade. I do not believe this comes within his powers....We’ll see, but this will not end well.


26 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:47 PM PDT by jessduntno ( If someone calls me racist, I reply "you are just saying that because I'm white!")
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To: LouAvul

Yeah, who needs Congress anyhow?


27 posted on 04/15/2010 9:12:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I am Ellie Light. I hate slow drivers.)
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To: LouAvul

{{{sigh}}}}


28 posted on 04/15/2010 9:13:14 PM PDT by Woodstock (: > CAP Mom)
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To: LouAvul

Glad to see he’s governing from the center like the jourbalists claim.


29 posted on 04/15/2010 9:13:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: LouAvul

Next week he’s going to sign a law giving llama ranchers the right to purchase flat screen televisions.


30 posted on 04/15/2010 9:13:29 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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To: Woodstock

“Is this important? Who cares who can come see you in the hospital if YOU want to see them? Does this really need a law???”

In the service of expanding government intrusio, there is no need for a law...there is only a want to add more...


31 posted on 04/15/2010 9:14:36 PM PDT by jessduntno ( If someone calls me racist, I reply "you are just saying that because I'm white!")
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To: LouAvul
President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow

Hard to believe little Hitler is already ordering around phantom Divisions... He is loosing it much quicker that I thought he would.

32 posted on 04/15/2010 9:14:47 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Kleon
People in a committed relationship

Or those who claim they are. If they are in a actual committed relationship then they have already taken the necessary legal steps to make sure that their snuggle bunny can visit them in the hospital and has their medical power of attorney.

It is less complicated legally then getting married so this is just more feel good hogwash.

What this means is that anyone can come to the hospital and claim that they are your gay lover and the hospital has to let them see you.

There is potential for a great deal of malicious mischief here.

33 posted on 04/15/2010 9:14:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

This is a great big bunch of hoo hah...since time began in America, a person has had the right to turn their funds to whomever they want to, family or not. A patient also has always had the right to have any visitor the patient prefers.


34 posted on 04/15/2010 9:17:55 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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Intensive care units don’t allow non family members

Bull. Been there, done that. More than once. Psych wards, ICU, Recovery.....never denied.

35 posted on 04/15/2010 9:19:29 PM PDT by digger48
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To: LouAvul
*sigh*

It must be nice to be King...

36 posted on 04/15/2010 9:20:27 PM PDT by Gritty (A court favoring a specific category of human being is state-sanctioned prejudice -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Kleon

If a patient wants to see someone, related or not, they should be able to visit, unless there’s a compelling reason for a hospital to have a restrictive policy. Why government has to get involved is beyond me.


37 posted on 04/15/2010 9:20:31 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Now thats funny :)


38 posted on 04/15/2010 9:23:47 PM PDT by funfan
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39 posted on 04/15/2010 9:24:16 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

News to me as well. I distinctly remember a patient I worked with about 20 years ago who was dying from AIDS. His partner was as devoted as present continuously. He was as devoted as any heterosexual partner I’ve seen. He told me they had been partners 30 or 40 years. No one ever told him to stay away. Go figure. I’ve seen it repeated in hospitals I worked at as well - many times. When someone was dying (or just ill or whatever), the nurses and other staff want loved ones nearby. I have yet to see someone thrown out because they weren’t “officially” part of the family.


40 posted on 04/15/2010 9:25:38 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: FlingWingFlyer

News to me as well. I distinctly remember a patient I worked with about 20 years ago who was dying from AIDS. His partner was as devoted as present continuously. He was as devoted as any heterosexual partner I’ve seen. He told me they had been partners 30 or 40 years. No one ever told him to stay away. Go figure. I’ve seen it repeated in hospitals I worked at as well - many times. When someone was dying (or just ill or whatever), the nurses and other staff want loved ones nearby. I have yet to see someone thrown out because they weren’t “officially” part of the family.


41 posted on 04/15/2010 9:25:43 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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Let me restate that, If you please. Didn’t mean to snarky. This administration has me ready to burst!

That’s just not been my personal experience. Not just a hometown thing, this was at one of the biggest hospitals in our state.


42 posted on 04/15/2010 9:26:03 PM PDT by digger48
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To: ElkGroveDan

Now thats funny :)


43 posted on 04/15/2010 9:26:06 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Republic
Yep.

The rule was about keeping people who might exploit a drugged or otherwise helpless person out. It was assumed that family, married or blood, would have the best interest of the patient at heart.

Now if some stranger claims to be your gay lover then the hospital must allow them access to you up until the point that you are awake enough to say that you don't want them there. Hope you wake up before they take off with your watch and wallet.

Before you had to ask for them to be allowed in, now you must ask for them to be kept out.

44 posted on 04/15/2010 9:27:46 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: LouAvul
President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors and to grant their partners medical power of attorney.

I have absolutely no problem with this, and am wondering why any conservative would. Why can't someone name who they want to have visit or have medical power of attorney over them?

With this argument taken away from them, it's one huge argument the gays no longer have for gay marriage. I don't see how any conservative could object to letting people decide who will visit them or have power of attorney over them, especiually if it further weakes the already-weak arguments for gay marriage.

45 posted on 04/15/2010 9:29:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, mocker of the clueless)
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To: LouAvul

This is crap purely. We already do this in the hospital. It is called Significant Other and only needs to be documented upon admission. I have worked in nursing for many years. Obama is just reinventing that which is already available. He is the biggest fake you will ever know which is why he is so secretive about his history.

And to think there are folk who drool over him like he is something big that has hit the planet.


46 posted on 04/15/2010 9:29:09 PM PDT by michgirl (RN-no friend of Obamacare)
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To: digger48

I didn’t know that. The hospital I was in did not allow anyone but family members. And don’t get me wrong here. I think this is disgusting. Not so much the visitation, but allowing someone outside the family to make life and death decisions for someone is just wrong on so many levels.


47 posted on 04/15/2010 9:29:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: digger48
Bull. Been there, done that. More than once. Psych wards, ICU, Recovery.....never denied.

Bull to you I have been denied as a stepbrother!!!

48 posted on 04/15/2010 9:29:36 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Is Obama planning on spending time in the hospital? Maybe he just doesn’t want to be lonely!


49 posted on 04/15/2010 9:30:23 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: BuckyKat

Oops - forgive the double post. Board hiccuped on me.


50 posted on 04/15/2010 9:30:29 PM PDT by BuckyKat
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