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Recalling ’95 Bombing, Clinton Sees Parallels [Tea Party Rallies........]
New York Times ^

Posted on 04/16/2010 7:57:41 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Recalling ’95 Bombing, Clinton Sees Parallels By CARL HULSE

WASHINGTON — With the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing approaching, former President Bill Clinton on Thursday drew parallels between the antigovernment tone that preceded that devastating attack and the political tumult of today, saying government critics must be mindful that angry words can stir violent actions.

In advance of a symposium on Friday about the attack on the Oklahoma City federal building and its current relevance, Mr. Clinton, who was in his first term at the time of the bombing, warned that attempts to incite opposition by demonizing the government can provoke responses beyond what political figures intend.

“There can be real consequences when what you say animates people who do things you would never do,” Mr. Clinton said in an interview, saying that Timothy McVeigh, who carried out the Oklahoma City bombing, and those who assisted him, “were profoundly alienated, disconnected people who bought into this militant antigovernment line.”

The former president said the potential for stirring a violent response might be even greater now with the reach of the Internet and other common ways of communication that did not exist on April 19, 1995, when the building was struck.

“Because of the Internet, there is this vast echo chamber and our advocacy reaches into corners that never would have been possible before,” said Mr. Clinton, who said political messages are now able to reach those who are both “serious and seriously disturbed.” He will be delivering the keynote address Friday at an event about the Oklahoma City attack being sponsored by the Center for American Progress Action Fund and the Democratic Leadership Council.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; dnctalkingpoints; douchebag; goebbelswouldbeproud; lyingliar; okcbombing; pravdamedia; saulalinsky; stalinisttactics; yellowjournalism
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1 posted on 04/16/2010 7:57:41 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

THIS MAN

LIES

UNDER OATH

2 posted on 04/16/2010 7:58:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: Sub-Driver

If you’ll recall, in 1996, he used the OKC bombing to run a successful smear campaign against his critics on talk radio all the way to re-election.

He was headed to a one term presidency until that happened.

The Republican takeover of House and Sentate came in 1994 because of a backlash nationwide to the behind closed doors “unelected co-presidency” of Hillary Clinton ramming through Socialized Medicine.

Tom Brokaw (or was it Peter Jennings) declared that “America threw a temper tantrum” when the Democrats lost both the House and Senate.

We are still dealing with the same media, the same long term goals, and the same partisan smears.

You want to talk “McCarthyism” and “bogus hysteria”? The smears by Democats are never critized as extremist and false rhetoric in our textbooks or media.


3 posted on 04/16/2010 7:58:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: Sub-Driver
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Let's not forget what motivated McVeigh...

4 posted on 04/16/2010 7:58:49 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow. Who knew there were tea parties in 1995?


5 posted on 04/16/2010 7:59:27 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh please Slick.....Time for another bypass apparently.


6 posted on 04/16/2010 7:59:56 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Sub-Driver

7 posted on 04/16/2010 8:00:33 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

The Justice Department never did bother to learn what motivated McVeigh’s partner John Doe number two.


8 posted on 04/16/2010 8:00:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: Dallas59

Yeah. A vocal cord bypass.


9 posted on 04/16/2010 8:00:57 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: Sub-Driver

The only bomb the Tea Party has is set to go off in the Nov. elections ,,, and that’s really why they are SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nervous and scared . You Betcha!!!


10 posted on 04/16/2010 8:02:24 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s an extraordinarily good liar. I forgot who said that, but whoever it was spoke the truth.


11 posted on 04/16/2010 8:02:36 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Sub-Driver
This bastard just never shuts up. one day the truth will come out, that OKC was a jihadist attack on American soil, that Clinton covered up because he would not allow the perception that such a thing could happen on his watch.

Scumbag.

12 posted on 04/16/2010 8:02:57 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Sub-Driver
“were profoundly alienated, disconnected people who bought into this militant antigovernment line.”

Tim McVeigh was motivated by the militant government massacre of civilian men, women, and children.
13 posted on 04/16/2010 8:03:07 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Thanks for that - I was going to post a few words about what angered McVeigh but you did it much better!!!!! Sure doesn’t hurt to remind everyone.


14 posted on 04/16/2010 8:03:08 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Bob Kerrey.


15 posted on 04/16/2010 8:03:21 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s am idiot. Just trying to discredit and disrupt.


16 posted on 04/16/2010 8:04:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (Bawney Fwank's mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I would think that someone would draw parallels between a tone deaf ruling class, and citizens inability to be heard. There is a tremendous release of pressure when and if concerns are listened to and met. What would blacks have done if after marching with MLK, and the govt at the federal level completely ignored them? I know what they did when they were the center of attention by the govt, a pretty large group became violent. That group now is considered mainstream of a sort....the Black Panthers baby. Power to the people, black power, kill whitey. Now THAT is an example of a message that is non-violent when seen from todays POV?


17 posted on 04/16/2010 8:04:54 AM PDT by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: b4its2late

I am so sorry that bill clinton is still blind.


18 posted on 04/16/2010 8:06:22 AM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

“”He’s an extraordinarily good liar. I forgot who said that, but whoever it was spoke the truth.””

Bob Kerry - Senator from NE.... A democrat but he got it right as far as that statement was concerned.


19 posted on 04/16/2010 8:06:41 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: a fool in paradise

They knew but to prosecute would take the onus off of the “White, Christian, Right Wing Militias”.


20 posted on 04/16/2010 8:07:10 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Sub-Driver
We're all Timothy McVeigh now.
21 posted on 04/16/2010 8:09:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Sub-Driver
My memory may be failing me, but I thought
Billie Clinton burned down a church in Texas
with men, women and children in it just for
the fun of it.

It seems to me that he is a Mass Murderer.


22 posted on 04/16/2010 8:10:21 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: lionheart 247365

The democrats are the party of abortion murder. They are doing their best to abort the Republic ... and I’m afraid they are going to succeed this time since they have successfully installed a non-Constitutionally eligible affirmative action sonofabitch in the Oval Office.


23 posted on 04/16/2010 8:10:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Recalling ’97-98 Bon-Bon Baby Monica, Clinton Sees Parallels [WH `97 & WH 2010 Lies]

WASHINGTON — With the 13th anniversary of the Clinton-Lewinsky Bon-Bon Baby Scandal approaching, former President Bill Clinton on Thursday drew parallels between the cigar trash that preceded that devastating lies he said and the political White House 2010 trash of today, saying government critics must be mindful that angry cigars can stir sexually violent actions (He oughta know!)

24 posted on 04/16/2010 8:10:55 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Sub-Driver

We, like the founders, are just a bunch of freedom-loving, tyranny-hating citizens, Mr. Impeached Rapist.


25 posted on 04/16/2010 8:11:34 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We are all Timothy McVeigh now.

What do you mean by that?

26 posted on 04/16/2010 8:15:11 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: Sub-Driver

“...saying government critics must be mindful that angry words can stir violent actions”
Oh, but govt actions by themself can not do so right billybob, you asshat?


27 posted on 04/16/2010 8:15:25 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Sub-Driver
"We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton
28 posted on 04/16/2010 8:15:28 AM PDT by McGruff (So how is that Hopey Changey thingy working out for ya America?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I love how protesting the goverment was “the most patriotic thing an American could do” during the 8 years of the Bush administration, but now it’s “dangerous rhetoric” again. The libs are against free speech, no question about it.


29 posted on 04/16/2010 8:15:55 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: Sub-Driver
The 1993 attack by federal agents on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco pushed McVeigh toward thought of violent action against the United States government. He scheduled the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City for the date of the second anniversary of the government's assault near Waco.

No event did more to radicalize McVeigh than did the stand-off near Waco

30 posted on 04/16/2010 8:16:05 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

AND what did this “dear” dufus do in the 1960s? Didn’t he participate in similar protests but with very dangerous and violent people? I haven’t seen any dangerous or violent people in the Tea Party gatherings. How dare this expresident dufus compare Tea Party (real American People) to the “discontent” prior to Kosovo. His bombing at that time was to deflect his misadventures with a young intern in the oval office.


31 posted on 04/16/2010 8:16:06 AM PDT by tillacum ( It is the military, not the press, not the politicians who keep America free.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Let me comment, for you:

What about WILLIAM AYERS!

The man not only supported and conspired in Domestic Terrorism, he actually BOMBED THE PENTAGON!

And, later in life, be becomes best friends with:

OBAMA!

(Ayers probably wrote Obama’s first book!)

32 posted on 04/16/2010 8:16:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Thank You Rush; Dahoser

Right, it was Kerrey - clinton wouldn’t know the truth if it bit him in the ass.


33 posted on 04/16/2010 8:17:24 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: a fool in paradise

You are abolutely correct. All of the tv darlings of that era have retired, but can’t keep their face or opinions off of the nation’s airwaves. Pity.


34 posted on 04/16/2010 8:17:57 AM PDT by tillacum ( It is the military, not the press, not the politicians who keep America free.)
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To: Eagles6

The Clinton Administration wanted no part of a war against international Islamic terrorism.

They turned down capture of OBL. They did little in response to the Kobar Towers destruction, The USS Cole destruction, et al.

The 9-11 attack was in the planning since 1998 stateside and the plot to fly planes into buildings was discovered even before that (and may have ties to the OKC bombing).

McVeigh and Nichols were guilty, no denying that. But the administration wanted to cut the investigation to a few names. Even other participants names aren’t so widely known (household names) as they gave up testimony for lighter sentences. Guilt is guilt, while make bargains with terrorists for testimony?


35 posted on 04/16/2010 8:18:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: Sub-Driver

Democrats are really becoming irrelevant. Including Obama.


36 posted on 04/16/2010 8:18:55 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: Victor

I remember reading something about an area in OK that was closed to the public. I’ve always thought McVeigh worked with a bunch of foreigners.


37 posted on 04/16/2010 8:20:28 AM PDT by tillacum ( It is the military, not the press, not the politicians who keep America free.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well last month they were calling us Nazis.

Same hysteria, different pejorative.


38 posted on 04/16/2010 8:20:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: Sub-Driver
None of my friends bombed the Pentagon, but some of Barack Obama’s friends did.

Isn't projection a wonderful thing?

39 posted on 04/16/2010 8:24:30 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obamunism, the fatal cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We're all Timothy McVeigh now.

No we aren't. Are you insane?

40 posted on 04/16/2010 8:25:57 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Sub-Driver
Connect the dots, dem style:
Gov't Spending.                                     Oklahoma
Far Left Policy.                                    City
Corruption.                                         Bombing
   ..       .. 
  ....     ....-------------------------------------.
   ..       .. 
           Tea Party
           Protesters

41 posted on 04/16/2010 8:26:01 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Remember when he and his power partner lived in our whitehouse? If someone disagreed with them, the SS would take them to jail and question them, some were questioned for more than a day???? And remember this dufus used the Arkansas police and the SS to try and pick up women for him?
This guy is classless and all mouth. Unfortunately his mouthy meanderings are always reported by the antique press.


42 posted on 04/16/2010 8:26:10 AM PDT by tillacum ( It is the military, not the press, not the politicians who keep America free.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Keep your stupid comments to yourself you worthless fool!


43 posted on 04/16/2010 8:27:01 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Sub-Driver

Recalling a pile of turds, I see parallels [To the Clintons.....]


44 posted on 04/16/2010 8:27:08 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Like I said yesterday...if they want to play this game, Obama is linked to 9/11.
45 posted on 04/16/2010 8:27:10 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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To: Sub-Driver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0


46 posted on 04/16/2010 8:27:46 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Niteranger68

well, both Obama and Osama had friends who bombed the Pentagon

Barry will declare that it happened BEFORE he knew Bill Ayers. So that means the bombing was NOT a consideration in whether he should befriend a confessed terrorist.


47 posted on 04/16/2010 8:29:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: MHGinTN

Just be there in November ,, you’re gone to have plenty of company ,, don’t worry ,, be active . It’s the Dems and some RINOs who are currently the most scared or they wouldn’t be attacking the 75% of Americans who are against this kind of government takeover . My only real concern is this 80 thou. man personal army he is training in Georgia currently to be deployed on home soil in October just before the elections . Could Martial be on it’s way ? ,, and the openended suspension of all elections . I read about this 80 thou. man army unit in an FR post from the Baltimore Enquirer just a few days ago . Not a word on the cable TV news though ,, but this has me nervous ,, not whether the dems can remain in the majority after Nov. or the bamster in the 2010 pres. election .


48 posted on 04/16/2010 8:29:13 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLEN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: a fool in paradise

49 posted on 04/16/2010 8:29:26 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: drubyfive; E. Pluribus Unum

It was sarcasm...a play on the (TIME or Newsweek, can’t remember which) magazine cover that declared “We’re all socialists now”. Rather clever, I thought. Gave me a chuckle.

Cindie


50 posted on 04/16/2010 8:30:07 AM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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