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Veteran commits suicide in front of Dayton VA center
Dayton Daily News ^ | April 16, 2010 | Lucas Sullivan and Kelli Wynn

Posted on 04/16/2010 12:23:41 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian

DAYTON — A 27-year-old Army veteran shot and killed himself at the front steps of the Dayton Veterans Administration Medical Center just hours after he had been in the center’s emergency room.

Jesse C. Huff, address unknown, was wearing full military fatigues and was armed with a military-style rifle, which he used to shoot himself in the head about 5:45 a.m. Friday, April 16, police said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: casualtiesofwar; oifveteran; soldier; suicide; tragedy; va; veteran

1 posted on 04/16/2010 12:23:41 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

God rest his soul, just awful.


2 posted on 04/16/2010 12:30:56 PM PDT by Cathy
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Very sad. Hope he went to be with the Lord.


3 posted on 04/16/2010 12:33:13 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Cathy; LUV W; Kathy in Alaska; ConorMacNessa; SandRat; Allegra; Brad's Gramma

So tragic .. RIP. May you be in God’s
loving arms, Soldier Jesse Huff, free
of all pain.


4 posted on 04/16/2010 12:36:18 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Members of the Dayton Bomb Squad detonated a satchel found next to Huff’s body. The squad used a remote-controlled robot to load the satchel into the bucket of a bulldozer, then detonated the bag. Officials later said the satchel did not contain any explosives.

But it gave them a change to use their extremely expensive tax paid toys when they could have used a bomb dog to determine if explosives were present.

5 posted on 04/16/2010 12:37:04 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Cheap_Hessian

VA Government Healthcare, The VA Sucks.

Based on his age, I can only assume he was denied treatment because he wasn’t retired military.

I would like to know the denial rate of the VA for service related injuries that are considered preexisting conditions by private insurance but the VA Refuses to treat.

On my personal score they denied 7 out of 7.

I was told by my local Vets of Foreign Wars Group that they can go to the local Democrat Congressman to get my claims undenied, never did it. The whole process makes me sick.

Any health care system that relies on the intervention of a politician to get treatment due is repugnant to me.

My private healthcare still accepted me, they just make me pay for the cost of treating these injuries. I am fully covered for everything else. Thankfully with time these injuries are slowly healing themselves.


6 posted on 04/16/2010 12:37:54 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Cheap_Hessian
“He was a veteran that we (had treated),” Simmons said.

“This is an unfortunate incident,” Simmons said.

FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, this event does not surprise me.

We have seen a similar event in the front of our VA Hospital in Manhattan. A man seen earlier at the Emergency unit was released and within a short time tried to kill himself by falling head first over the railing on the sidewalk, heading down to the driveway.

Others said they saw him earlier, leaving emergency, complaining that they failed to treat him.

Whether or not the personal allegations are true or legitimate or not; the frustration level with the medical system at the VA CAN make one feel like an easily disposed of number, not a person.

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING, you can expect more of these events when the Federal Government is in full control of your health care and it's bureaucratic institutions have the fate of your medical care in their hands, and you have no other recourse.

7 posted on 04/16/2010 12:38:12 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Always hate hearing or reading about a suicide. My prayers go out to his family and I pray he is with the Lord.


8 posted on 04/16/2010 12:38:35 PM PDT by Mind Freed (Maybe Obama was the Wright choice... Let's wait till everything Ayers out.)
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To: STARWISE


PRAYERS GOING UP!





THE TWENTY-THIRD PSALM


The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me;
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:
Thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever."





Lamh Foistenach Abu!
9 posted on 04/16/2010 12:41:23 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: dila813
I'm moved to ask: Why do we even have VA hospitals?

In my experience, they are generally antiquated, poorly run and less than expertly staffed. Granted, there are exceptions.

But, upon being mustered out of the service, why don't we give every veteran a paid-up healthcare policy -- which would allow them to be treated anywhere?

Simple solution. Probably provides better quality care for our valuable veterans. And I'd bet it would be a LOT cheaper in the long run.

10 posted on 04/16/2010 12:44:48 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Tragic. Pray for his family. Soldiers in war see things the rest of us would find too horrible to imagine. A true soldier would never want war unless it was absolutely necessary.

In today’s world, it often is.


11 posted on 04/16/2010 12:45:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Prayers for him.


12 posted on 04/16/2010 12:48:42 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: okie01
Without a VA there wouldn't be tons of government jobs and the bureaucracy that goes with it. Your solution makes perfect sense so you will never see it enacted when throwing money down a hole to make politicians seem to care about vets works better for them.
13 posted on 04/16/2010 12:50:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

God saw he was getting tired
and a cure was not to be
So He put his arms around him
And whispered,”Come with Me”
With tearful eyes we watched
him suffer
And saw him fade away
Although we loved him dearly
We could not make him stay
A golden heart stopped beating
Hard working hands to rest
God broke our hearts to prove to us
He only takes the best

RIP


14 posted on 04/16/2010 12:53:33 PM PDT by Doogle (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN....donate, because it's the RIGHT thing to do)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Smells, the VA system is poor but this story smells.
15 posted on 04/16/2010 12:54:26 PM PDT by Little Bill (Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
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To: null and void

27 years old


16 posted on 04/16/2010 1:03:01 PM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Cheap_Hessian

OK What was this guy’s MOD/AFSC/Rate?


17 posted on 04/16/2010 1:03:07 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

MOS


18 posted on 04/16/2010 1:03:36 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Cheap_Hessian

This is the first time I have heard of someone shooting themselves in the head TWICE.


19 posted on 04/16/2010 1:09:41 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: US Navy Vet
I am not finding it. Here is from another source:

VA spokesperson Donna Simmons said, “We have a confirmed suicide of a 27-year-old veteran and the investigation is ongoing at this time.”

VA Center officials confirmed that Huff was an Army veteran who was in the emergency room around 1 a.m. Friday. The shooting was reported just before 6 a.m.

Investigators at the VA Center will be looking into what transpired between the time Huff was in the emergency and took his own life.

20 posted on 04/16/2010 1:14:37 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I visited a plant today and found the whole place in the dumps. A 30 year worker was found hanged yesterday, a tax day suicide

They were really feeling bad


21 posted on 04/16/2010 1:17:14 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: okie01

I totally agree.

I thought I would drop dead of disease just walking in that filthy place in Seattle.

They had me come there 3-4 times where I waited for hours to be told at the end that they were denying me.

I would have been happy if they had just given me something to give my insurance company so that they could bill back the government for the related care.

Freaking Government, even when I was in the Navy skipped out on an emergency room visit that was caused by the injury when I was away from base.

It went on my credit report and I ended up paying for it because the government wouldn’t paid even after I requested them to pay at least 6 times.

Government sucks. And now you know how the US Navy turned a Democrat into a Republican.


22 posted on 04/16/2010 1:39:32 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Was he being treated with SSRIs?

23 posted on 04/16/2010 1:44:27 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: US Navy Vet; verity
"OK What was this guy’s MOD/AFSC/Rate?"

Huff entered the Army April 15, 2003 as an infantryman and was promoted to the rank of specialist in 2005 before being discharged on June 15, 2007, said Army spokesman Wayne Hall. - Source: Google News (AP)

24 posted on 04/16/2010 2:45:20 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
"Was he being treated with SSRIs?"

Simmons said she could not share any of Huff's medical information or say how long he had been a patient at the center. - Source: Google News (AP)

25 posted on 04/16/2010 2:50:48 PM PDT by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: throwback; All

Do you guys know what the veteran suicide rate is?

I’m not gonna say it, you won’t believe it. And it’s going up.

Google it. And pray for us.

—ExIntrepid


26 posted on 04/16/2010 3:11:06 PM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

OK I’ll cut the guy a break...This is sad beyond words. My heart aches for him.


27 posted on 04/16/2010 5:24:59 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Freddd
This is the first time I have heard of someone shooting themselves in the head TWICE.

Might not be hard to do with a semi-auto rifle. The second shot could have been reflexive.

28 posted on 04/16/2010 5:29:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Shimmer1

Damn.


29 posted on 04/16/2010 5:44:17 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 449 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: okie01; Hillarys Gate Cult
okie01 ~ I'm moved to ask: Why do we even have VA hospitals? ...

But, upon being mustered out of the service, why don't we give every veteran a paid-up healthcare policy -- which would allow them to be treated anywhere?...

Hillarys Gate Cult ~ ...Your solution makes perfect sense so you will never see it enacted...

From your lips to 0bama's overly large ears.

Eliminate all VA care and place all the veterans on 0bama care.

What's not to like?

30 posted on 04/16/2010 5:53:54 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 449 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
Eliminate all VA care and place all the veterans on 0bama care.

What's not to like?

Well, that's not quite what I had in mind...

31 posted on 04/16/2010 5:55:24 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Citizen, the government will tell you what you had in mind, should it ever decide to let you have anything in mind.


32 posted on 04/16/2010 6:05:31 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 449 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Sad. RIP.


33 posted on 04/16/2010 6:26:13 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

He picked the perfect time to leave this world. He will never witness all that he fought for and everything he cared about get destroyed forever.

What is the point of staying just to watch a real life horror show?


34 posted on 04/16/2010 8:23:11 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Nothing sad about it. The dead are to be envied. They won’t witness what comes next in this forsaken cesspool.


35 posted on 04/16/2010 8:23:55 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Doogle; All

Tears in my ol’eyes,,,

From what I’ve read if we last 5 years out of combat there

is a chance for us to have some kind of life after

the Military,,,

I had a dear friend that was in that company bayonet charge

by B-1/26 to go get the bodys of Marines that were killed

2 weeks before outside the wire at Khe Sanh in 68’,,,

Every time I saw him with that “1,000 yard stare” and

tears running down his face I would just grab him and

give him a head~butt ,,,

Yell in his face “Suck It Up Marine!!!”,,,Made him grin,,,

He shot himself back in 75’...


36 posted on 04/16/2010 9:40:11 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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