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SEC Charges Goldman Sachs With Fraud On Subprime Mortgages
Business Insider ^ | Apr. 16, 2010 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 04/17/2010 7:06:25 AM PDT by george76

The SEC has filed civil charges against Goldman Sachs and its banker Fabrice Tourre for its role in structuring subprime mortgages, which it structured at the behest of hedge funders like John Paulson.

Goldman shares are off 10%.

At issue is the lack of disclosure of Paulson's role in selecting the assets that went into the CDOs.

There is also an allegation that John Paulson was presented as having gone long the CDO, when in fact he was short.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: fabricetourre; goldmansachs; johnpaulson; paulson; sec

1 posted on 04/17/2010 7:06:26 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Civil charges negotiated between plutocrat speculators and financial vampires and lickspittle facistic wannabee libs. Ho Hum


2 posted on 04/17/2010 7:08:27 AM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: george76
Goldman Sachs did the same things that Fannie and Freddie did. Of course, those in charge of the later get kudos and Goldman gets shut down.
3 posted on 04/17/2010 7:10:08 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: george76
There is also an allegation that John Paulson was presented as having gone long the CDO, when in fact he was short.

Is John Paulson any relation to Hank Paulson?

4 posted on 04/17/2010 7:11:41 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: george76
The SEC has filed civil charges against Goldman Sachs and its banker Fabrice Tourre for its role in structuring subprime mortgages

The fact that these are not criminal charges has me concerned and wondering. Civil charges can be resolved quickly with enough money and keep bad GS PR out of the media. This is also one way for the government to fund its socialistic policies.

Criminal charges would be fought tooth and nail by all defendants. If something was done illegally, someone should go to jail. It seems that this is at least partially politically motivated and that the case may not be all that strong.

5 posted on 04/17/2010 7:16:11 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: thethirddegree

I do not know


6 posted on 04/17/2010 7:17:25 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: unixfox

I believe Goldman Sachs is the worlds largest securities firm by market share.

Guess it needs to be brought down ... a peg or two or more.

Goldman Sachs also donated a bit to the Presidents campaign coffers. Guess the money was appreciated but the evil rich were not.


7 posted on 04/17/2010 7:24:21 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: mlocher

GS top management are wealthy, politically influential democrats suddenly facing civil charges from an organ of the Obama regime. This smells like a rope-a-dope where GS plays the evil capitalist financial company brought to justice by our heroic young president. The headlines will help pass the Poseur’s statist financial reform and lure the gullible into thinking the administration is cracking down on those responsible for the financial crisis.

After financial reform passes, with plenty of loopholes for GS, this story will end with a small civil fine, perhaps a mid-level firing or two and GS will go back to business as usual. One thing is for sure; nothing will be done to GS which would endanger their ability to fund the Democrat party.


8 posted on 04/17/2010 7:29:03 AM PDT by dogcaller
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To: mlocher
The fact that these are not criminal charges has me concerned and wondering.

Yes, it sounds like it might be a political shakedown (not that GS is not worthy of everything they're getting).

I wonder if this is just the shot across the bow with criminal charges pending; unless, of course, certain campaign contributions are made.

We do have an election coming up shortly, don't we?

9 posted on 04/17/2010 7:30:56 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: K-oneTexas

“Goldman Sachs also donated a bit to the Presidents campaign coffers. Guess the money was appreciated but the evil rich were not.”

They also donate big to McCain.

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle.

John McCain
Merrill Lynch $373,595
Citigroup Inc $322,051
Morgan Stanley $273,452
Goldman Sachs $230,095 [snip]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2494466/posts?page=96#96


10 posted on 04/17/2010 7:34:38 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: junta

Sometime next week the market will recover from its shock losses and continue its “inexplicable” waft upward. Come back little ‘vestor, give the big guys money for their games.


11 posted on 04/17/2010 7:55:05 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Don't waste your vote on a 'Rat wearing an Elephant suit.)
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To: dogcaller
GS top management are wealthy, politically influential democrats

Dogcaller, you are absolutely correct. Half the finance guys in the Obama administration are ex-GS. This has been the case for decades, dating back to FDR. The revolving door between GS and the Feds is why GS is often referred to as "Government Sachs."

GS is a deadly nest of vipers. Amazing how all of their serious competitors were allowed to fail or shut down during the meltdown, but GS was carefully protected via AIG and somehow managed to emerge unscathed and no longer encumbered by TARP money just in time to generate record profit and bonuses. This is an arm of the democrat party.

12 posted on 04/17/2010 8:03:00 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: Entrepreneur

If you are right then this is a good time to accuumulate their stock. It won’t be down long.


13 posted on 04/17/2010 8:06:39 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: george76

My guess: Goldman has been doing the “crony capitalism” thing for years, happily watching as the SEC and FINRA destroy many many smaller firms. Well, they are now learning that the govt monster isn’t easily appeased and always turns on its “allies.”

No love lost for Goldman. They are reaping what they have sown. That said, this blatant thugocratic strong-arming of another huge chunk of the public sector is terrifying...


14 posted on 04/17/2010 8:08:18 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: piytar

Ooops, I meant private sector...


15 posted on 04/17/2010 8:17:37 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: george76

Is there a link to a story (or stories) on FR about the history of the mortgage mess/ Like stories of the Clinton DOJ forcing banks to make these loans; or any links to the youtube videos about the hearings?

Thanks.


16 posted on 04/17/2010 8:18:12 AM PDT by antonico
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To: thethirddegree

No relation.


17 posted on 04/17/2010 8:24:51 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Thanks!


18 posted on 04/17/2010 8:26:47 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: antonico

I’d say search via keywords, probably bubble, housingbubble, mortgage, etc. There are a wealth of articles here warning of the inevitable disaster going back to 2004 at least.


19 posted on 04/17/2010 8:27:07 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: antonico

Here is a start. Lots of stuff out there.

The Community Reinvestment Act and the expansion of it in the mid-90s that is the root cause of this problem. Why is no one talking about this? The CRA forces banks to find clever ways to lend money to people who can not afford to pay it back.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23563172-details/Don%c2%92t+blame+bankers,+it%c2%92s+down+to+a+man+called+Bill/article.do

Beth A. Wilkinson also served as Fannie Mae’s executive vice president, general counsel and corporate secretary from February 2006 until September 2008. She resigned her position at Fannie Mae along with three other senior executives on September 19, 2008.

Beth A. Wilkinson is married David Gregory; he is the host of Race for the White House on MSNBC. Any surprise that David Gregory and his media friends are silent on this massive fraud where his wife made millions of dollars?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10012008/gossip/pagesix/awkward_links_131451.htm

Mistress of Disaster: Jamie Gorelick

Imagine playing a central role in the biggest national defense disaster in 50 years. Imagine playing a central role in one of the biggest economic disasters in your country’s history. Imagine doing both as an un-elected official. Imagine getting filthy rich in the process, and even being allowed to sit self-righteously on a commission appointed to get to the bottom of the first disaster, which of course did not get to the bottom of that disaster or anything else for that matter.

Imagine ending, ruining or at least causing signficant quality deterioration in the lives of millions of people, most of whom will never know your name.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/mistress_of_disaster_jamie_gor.html


20 posted on 04/17/2010 8:27:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I think GS used to be very good at making money by following the rules. When it become too difficult to make as much money following the rules they decided it was no longer necessary to follow the rules. I happen to believe that greed is good as long as it is held in check by ethical behavior.


21 posted on 04/17/2010 9:34:28 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: mlocher
Civil charges can be resolved quickly with enough money and keep bad GS PR out of the media

Of course. This is all about Obama trying to show the left-wing base that he is not in the pocket of the banks.

Not true of course but this is just a short-term scheme cooked up by the WH and likely GS itself to try to light a fire under left-wing activists in advance of Nov.

22 posted on 04/17/2010 10:04:25 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

The Banks must not be giving the Obamaites enough of the Vig, and this civil action is a way to extort more out of them. If Goldman is “guilty as charged”, then those responsible and who knowingly profited should be thrown into a ditch and shot (after a fair trial of course, like with KSM).


23 posted on 04/17/2010 10:32:37 AM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: dtrpscout
I don't see this mainly as a ploy to extort more money from the banks.

I see it as more of a political move...a way to excite the left-wing for the election...those who have soured on Zero because he supported TARP and hasn't gone after the banks enough.

The number of threads about this on DU indicates that they are rising to the bait.

24 posted on 04/17/2010 10:40:15 AM PDT by what's up
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

And the Stoopid Party will be there hapless as ever cheerleading for “the street.”


25 posted on 04/17/2010 12:05:40 PM PDT by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: george76; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


26 posted on 04/17/2010 10:22:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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