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Ky. Senate Candidates Call For Smaller Government
WCPO.COM ^ | 17 APRIL 2010 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2010 7:31:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

BOWLING GREEN, Ky. (AP) -- Republicans hoping to replace retiring U.S. Sen. Jim Bunning have met in Bowling Green for a forum with voters.

The candidates said Tuesday night they want to rein in federal spending and cut taxes on businesses to kickstart expansion and job growth.

Front-runner Rand Paul, a Bowling Green eye surgeon, blamed career politicians for weakening the economy with tax-and-spend policies that have driven up the cost of doing business.

Paul and his chief Republican rival, Secretary of State Trey Grayson, share the philosophy that reducing the size of the federal government is essential to strengthening the economy. Grayson said Congress needs to spend less money, cut onerous regulations and cut taxes.

Five Republicans and five Democrats are vying to replace Bunning, who opted not to seek a third term.


TOPICS: Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: ky2010; randpaul

1 posted on 04/17/2010 7:31:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rand is a chip off the old block, his awesome Dad, medical Doctor Ronald Paul( who has delivered 4000 little babies instead of killing them) who is leading all straw polls for our nomination and is even in the pols with beating oBOWma in 2012.( he lost the New Orleans poll by one rigged vote to the Massachusetts “slick boy” and the father of socialized medicine, Mitt Rollme). We love Rand and understand where his genius comes from. GO RAND!!


2 posted on 04/17/2010 7:43:29 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: rogertarp
I wonder why Sarah hooked Her wagon to mitt the other day?
Beyond disappointing
3 posted on 04/17/2010 8:39:06 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

You think that Governor Palin who is an opponent and a competing 2012 candidate AGAINST Mitt Romney, “hooked Her wagon to mitt the other day” ?

That is your expert conclusion on her graciously handling that question in the manner that Reagan would have also done?


4 posted on 04/17/2010 8:44:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The big question to ask any candidate who calls for “smaller government”, especially if they *combine* it with “lower taxes”, which is a completely different thing, is to focus on the former statement.

How MUCH smaller government? Obama has been hiring hundreds of thousands of new government employees. Should they be canned, by cutting off the money to pay them? Should some of these federal employee unions be shut down, like President Reagan shut down PATCO?

Instead of slowing down the rate of government growth, will the candidates endorse *cutting* government, so that we have LESS in the future, not more, or even the same amount?

If there is a single government agency that needs to be shut down first, which one is it? Reagan said the Department of Education, but he couldn’t make that happen. Should it be shut down? Is running the nations educational system part of the responsibilities of the federal government in the constitution?

And how about renouncing the hundred TRILLION dollars the government has promised in the future, but cannot possibly pay? Will the candidate pretend that such nonsensical numbers are anything but madness?

Cutting taxes is grand. But even if the government took 100% of what every American earned, it couldn’t keep doing what it is doing today. Will the candidates at least try to make it stop spending like a drunken gambler?


5 posted on 04/17/2010 8:49:28 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist


Just Say No
6 posted on 04/17/2010 8:50:43 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: ansel12

Hey, She said it, not me.


7 posted on 04/17/2010 8:52:22 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

So you knew that you were lying.

Your statement in post 3 was a lie, and you basically just repeated it.


8 posted on 04/17/2010 8:55:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: reefdiver

It was loyalty to McAmnesty for bringing her to the forefront. I appreciate that. Nut she must quickly move on.


9 posted on 04/17/2010 8:57:41 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: ansel12

I don’t lie


10 posted on 04/17/2010 9:02:36 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver

You did here on this thread, you said that Governor Palin “hooked Her wagon to mitt the other day”, and then when challenged you repeated the claim.


11 posted on 04/17/2010 9:04:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: ansel12

Hey, It’s Sarah’s words. I didn’t like it , but from the Boston Herald
Look it up your self

Palin told the Herald she was “serious” about sharing a ticket with the former Bay State governor


12 posted on 04/17/2010 9:10:58 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: rogertarp
We love Rand and understand where his genius comes from. GO RAND!!

AMEN! Don't let the many rabid PaulHaters on FR get to you. We are winning!

13 posted on 04/17/2010 9:31:06 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: reefdiver
All I see are nice words and the ability to keep avoiding traps that the media keep laying to lock her into an image as radical, non mainstream, outside the GOP, and then destroy her, this is similar to the medias efforts to constantly probe and work at the tea parties to try and pin a face on them so that the media can then focus on that person and morph the tea party into them and then destroy that person, taking the tea party out with them.

I will apologize for labeling you a liar though, although I cannot find the actual context and quotes of the statements scattered over several days, I can see how the media took the simple quote and then from a remark a day later puts the single word "serious" in with the mix, I can see how someone that wanted to believe the worst about Palin could be lead to rationalize to claim what you did without making a lie.

But this was so over the top that I don't think that you were putting energy into being honest. “hooked Her wagon to mitt the other day”

14 posted on 04/17/2010 9:51:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: ChrisInAR
We love Rand and understand where his genius comes from. GO RAND!!

"AMEN! Don't let the many rabid PaulHaters on FR get to you. We are winning!"

You think that you are beating JR?

>""To: ChrisInAR
Better watch your step around our FReeper friends newbie. This site is for patriotic conservatives who defend our nation and support our troops.
Antiwar moonbats are subject to the zot! You’d best tread lightly when you’re visiting our camp.
Ron Paul and his antiwar moonbat spammers can kiss my ass!
108 posted on Monday, April 12, 2010 11:29:17 AM by Jim Robinson""

15 posted on 04/17/2010 9:58:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: ChrisInAR; rogertarp

As soon as Paul made it to the first debate and Obama began laying out Paul’s positions on Social Security, Medicare and every other government program, Paul’s numbers would drop like a rock. It would be a 50 state blowout.

Not to mention, he will be older than McCain in 2008 and he’s not that articulate.


16 posted on 04/17/2010 9:58:38 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: ChrisInAR; rogertarp

You guys would do much better to get behind someone fresh and articulate like a Paul Ryan who would also be strong on the issues you care about. Even if Paul is a Moses/Goldwater type and the rest of us have somehow missed it, he’s going to be way too old to lead the children into the Promised Land.


17 posted on 04/17/2010 10:00:22 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: ansel12

Could you send me that link? That’s funny stuff right there.


18 posted on 04/17/2010 10:02:03 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: streetpreacher

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2491111/posts?page=108#108


19 posted on 04/17/2010 10:10:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: ansel12

Thanks.


20 posted on 04/17/2010 10:13:25 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: rogertarp

I meant to ping you to post 15.


21 posted on 04/17/2010 10:52:40 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: streetpreacher

You’re right...Obama & the MSM (& many of his GOP opponents) would put the good doctor on the defensive on those issues. I think this just proves that America is, to its detriment & my disappointment, that America is ever-so-slowly turning away from being a center-Right nation being run by a political party that is in the Center (the GOP) & another that is on the uber-Left (the Dims).


22 posted on 04/18/2010 2:00:05 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: ansel12; streetpreacher
The Paulestinians did the same thing in '07. They were convinced that Ron Paul was going to surprise everyone and win the '08 GOP nomination because his followers had spammed a few straw polls.

They were on here warning us about how they were going to gloat at us when it happened. The upside was that the cult got quiet for a while when that didn't happen.

The media will be pushing Paul and Romney (they've already started) because they know neither of them has a chance of winning the general election.

I honestly hope we can get a strong, true conservative on that ticket like Paul Ryan, Jim DeMint, Mike Pence or someone along those lines, so that we really can win and start taking our country back.

23 posted on 04/18/2010 2:41:01 PM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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After glowingly quoting Obama all over his profile page regarding pot use, this is how ChrisInAR prefaces a humorous quote by Ronald Reagan:

“Let’s end with a quote from one of the most clueless U.S. Presidents [re: marijuana, anyway — Chris], who evidently thought of himself as an authority on cannabis:

‘I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast’ - Ronald Reagan”


24 posted on 04/18/2010 2:55:58 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: streetpreacher; Allegra; ansel12; Jim Robinson
Here are a few things that the troll (ChrisInAR) used to have on his profile page (I'm pretty sure he later removed them). They give pretty good insight into what most of the Paulinistas believe:

“The question in my mind is
how many additional American
casualties is Saddam worth?
And the answer is
not very damned many. “
~Dick Cheney

“Victory means exit strategy,
and it’s important for the president
to explain to us
what the exit strategy is. “
~George W. Bush

“Free nations are peaceful nations.
Free nations don’t attack each other.
Free nations don’t develop
weapons of mass destruction. “
~George W. Bush

QUESTION: Then what does that say
about US, Mr. President???

“Why should we hear about body bags,
and deaths...I mean, it’s not relevant.
So why should I waste my beautiful mind
on something like that?”
~Barbara Bush

“I can tell you this:
If I’m ever in a position to call the shots,
I’m not going to rush to send
somebody else’s kids into a war. “
~George H.W. Bush

“...the role of the military is to fight
and win war and, therefore, prevent war
from happening in the first place. “
~George W. Bush

“If we don’t stop extending our troops
all around the world
in nation-building missions,
we’re going to have a serious problem
coming down the road. “
~George W. Bush

“If this were a dictatorship,
it’d be a heck of a lot easier,
just so long as I’m the dictator. “
~George W. Bush


25 posted on 04/18/2010 5:16:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well as I noted to Jim and to Chris himself on another thread, he formerly went by the FReeper name libertyman, even as far back as 2004, but I think he was zotted.


26 posted on 04/18/2010 7:50:12 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: wagglebee; Allegra; ansel12; Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/~libertyman/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1533906/posts


27 posted on 04/18/2010 8:02:45 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: streetpreacher

Retread?


28 posted on 04/18/2010 8:42:08 PM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra; streetpreacher; wagglebee; rogertarp

ChrisInAR is no longer with us.


29 posted on 04/18/2010 9:23:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Mitt Romney would have to advance two more evolutionary steps to qualify as pond scum.)
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To: Allegra

Well, was anyway...


30 posted on 04/18/2010 10:17:39 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: ansel12

high five


31 posted on 04/18/2010 10:22:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: ansel12

In all fairness, a few years ago, I was veering to the dark side of Pauline libertarianism which explains why I have FReepmails from Chris back then. I could probably out a few more.

In the years since, I rediscovered my patriotism and skepticism of conspiracy theories in large part due to the floundering of the truth of Reformation theology in my heart (DISCLAIMER: this is not an attempt to convert you). I enlisted in the Army but unfortunately my service was cut short at just over a year in due to a back and neck injury.

Am I jerk now to be such a purist and expose Chris like that considering where I was a few years back? Yeah, probably. But in all truth, I would have banned myself a few years back. Some aspects of paleoconservatism/libertarianism are a cancer that infect sound conservative thought with suspicions that call into question not only the actions of government but the character of America. The Birchers and Paulites are one example. The fact that they can give credibility to an Alex Jones by appearing on his program speaks volumes about their character. No different than Obama/Ayers/Wright.


32 posted on 04/18/2010 10:32:48 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: streetpreacher; Allegra; ansel12

Here’s a run-in I had with him last fall when he was bashing President Reagan:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2329847/posts


33 posted on 04/19/2010 4:55:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Here’s a run-in I had with him last fall when he was bashing President Reagan:

Wow. Very revealing.

It always comes down to the drugs, doesn't it?

34 posted on 04/19/2010 7:11:17 AM PDT by Allegra (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra
It always comes down to the drugs, doesn't it?

It's that way with a lot of them.

35 posted on 04/19/2010 7:23:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ansel12

One down, sevaral more to go (my opinion anyway). Many of these “Paul-nuts” are truly fanatics I think. Right up there with the Obama psychos. Really, watch your backs.


36 posted on 04/19/2010 7:32:51 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

I’m sure they will all regroup over at libertypost. LOL


37 posted on 04/19/2010 12:14:51 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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