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McCain Proposes Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Citizens (MCCAIN ASSAULTS THE CONSTITUTION)
The New American ^ | 2010-04-18 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/18/2010 7:09:37 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) has introduced a bill that would allow the President to imprison an unlimited number of American citizens (as well as foreigners) indefinitely without trial. Known as The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010, or S. 3081, the bill authorizes the President to deny a detainee a trial by jury simply by designating that person an “enemy belligerent.”

The bill, which has eight cosponsors, explicitly names U.S. citizens as among those who can be detained indefinitely without trial:

An individual, including a citizen of the United States, determined to be an unprivileged enemy belligerent ... may be detained without criminal charges and without trial for the duration of hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners in which the individual has engaged, or which the individual has purposely and materially supported, consistent with the law of war and any authorization for the use of military force provided by Congress pertaining to such hostilities. [Emphasis added.]

Note that the Bush administration once said that the so-called “war on terror” would last a generation or more, and the U.S. military has officially classified many former Guantanamo detainees, such as England's Tipton Three, as having “returned to the battlefield” for merely granting an interview for the movie The Road to Guantanamo. Another five innocent Uighur (Ethnic Turkish Muslims from China) detainees had been listed as having “returned to the battlefield” after their release because their lawyer had written an op-ed protesting their prolonged detention without trial after they had been mistakenly picked up by a greedy bounty hunter. Writing an opinion or speaking an opinion against the party in power in Washington can — and already has — made some people “enemy belligerents.”

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution requires that “No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” and the Sixth Amendment stipulates the due process of law that all are required to receive:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

The requirement for a jury trial has no exceptions for military reasons, and doesn't even exempt foreigners. It simply employs the phrase “all criminal prosecutions,” words that unequivocally apply to the military and civilian justice systems, as well as to both citizens and foreigners. The Founding Fathers truly applied Christ's command to “Do to others whatever you would have them do to you,” but John McCain's new bill wouldn't even do to American citizens what we would assume were basic rights. There is no greater tyranny than indefinite imprisonment at the whim of an executive without legal recourse, and that is precisely what McCain and eight other senators would impose upon America.

McCain defended his bill in a speech on the Senate floor March 4, stating:

The legislation would authorize detention of enemy belligerents without criminal charges for the duration of the hostilities consistent with standards under the law of war which have been recognized by the Supreme Court. Importantly, if a decision is made to hold a criminal trial after the necessary intelligence information is obtained, the bill mandates trial by military commission where we are best able to protect U.S. national security interests, including sensitive classified sources and methods, as well as the place and the people involved in the trial itself.

In other words, the right to trial by jury guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution would no longer be a right. The bill would mandate “military commissions” rather than a jury trial, if and when the President deems to hold a “trial.” Under McCain's legislation, trial by jury wouldn't just be a privilege that the President could withdraw at a whim, the President would be required to deny jury trials. The right to trial by jury would be denied entirely! Of course, any American could be held for decades without trial or even being charged with a crime under McCain's bill.

Cosponsors of the bill include Democrat/independent Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and Republicans Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, David Vitter of Louisiana, George LeMieux of Florida, and Roger Wicker of Mississippi. Those cosponsoring this outright attack on the Bill of Rights are those same Republican neo-conservatives who have dominated the GOP for the last decade or more. Conservative constitutionalists need to reassert control of the Republican Party and purge this cancer from the party and the U.S. Senate, if they wish to retain their freedoms.


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1 posted on 04/18/2010 7:09:38 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead
The right to trial by jury would be denied entirely! Of course, any American could be held for decades without trial or even being charged with a crime under McCain's bill.

Hmmm...

I wonder if McCain's bill will be used to detain all those nasty "domestic terrorists" (conservatives and libertarians), especially the ones the left derides as "teabaggers"!

2 posted on 04/18/2010 7:10:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Water board McDemocrat.


3 posted on 04/18/2010 7:11:42 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder how McCain liked being held indefinitely without trial.


4 posted on 04/18/2010 7:12:27 PM PDT by omega4179 ( http://www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

I don’t know what you guys are complaining about-—they are people here would love to throw away the key when it comes to terrorism.


5 posted on 04/18/2010 7:12:28 PM PDT by gman992
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To: rabscuttle385

McLame has too many loose screws.


6 posted on 04/18/2010 7:13:05 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: rabscuttle385

I guess McCain wants to lose his election, but that’s a good thing.


7 posted on 04/18/2010 7:13:09 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: rabscuttle385

McAmnesty is political TOAST. If Palin doesn’t flee him quickly , she will be gone.


8 posted on 04/18/2010 7:13:23 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: rabscuttle385

Well that’s one way to get rid of that pesky political opposition.


9 posted on 04/18/2010 7:13:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rabscuttle385

Though suspicious to us, on the right -— I seriously doubt this would be aimed at law-abiding folks. Scary for anyone that DARE question the regime... but questioning is within our first amendment rights. Threratening harm or acting out, is not.


10 posted on 04/18/2010 7:15:07 PM PDT by nagdt ("speak the truth but leave immediately afterward")
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To: nagdt

Only US citizens are of the district of columbia. americans are of the other states. www.restoretherepublic.com


11 posted on 04/18/2010 7:16:39 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: Sun

like the rest of his ilk, I’m sure he has no clue what’s in any peice of legislation he supports.


12 posted on 04/18/2010 7:16:50 PM PDT by bluedressman
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To: rabscuttle385

Not having the best year financially (especially after last week), but I have two contributions on my Must Do list: FR and J.D. Hayworth!

McCain needs to retire and take over from BobDole doing ads for male enhancement products. “Extenze works, my friend. A-heh-heh.”


13 posted on 04/18/2010 7:17:36 PM PDT by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: rabscuttle385
the bill authorizes the President to deny a detainee a trial by jury simply by designating that person an “enemy belligerent.”

And what is the difference between an "enemy belligerent" and an "illegal combatant" -- which McCain was somehow unable to recognize during the Bush administration?

14 posted on 04/18/2010 7:18:03 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is all so difficult for me to comprehend. With that said, I think John McCain has to lose his election.


15 posted on 04/18/2010 7:18:06 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: rabscuttle385

What’s he going to do? Create internment camps? Oh, wait ....


16 posted on 04/18/2010 7:18:12 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: rabscuttle385
he bill would mandate “military commissions” rather than a jury trial, if and when the President deems to hold a “trial.”

Meanwhile BO's/BS's fellow muzzies who are enemy combatants get a trial by jury. It's truly astounding how people want to cling to a party that has consistently eschewed conservative principles.
17 posted on 04/18/2010 7:19:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: rabscuttle385; pissant; All

“Republicans Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, Jeff Sessions of Alabama”

I wasn’t particularly stunned that McCain is pushing this, but Inhofe and Sessions??? What the ??? Are we missing something here??


18 posted on 04/18/2010 7:20:14 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
Hayworth has a second million dollar campaign drive underway. www.jdforsenate.com/issues
19 posted on 04/18/2010 7:21:17 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I’m seriously wondering if he got “Manchurian Candidate” programming while in the North Viet Nam prison.


20 posted on 04/18/2010 7:21:19 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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