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Interested in Hillary's Plans? Just Watch Bill
Townhall.com ^ | April 19, 2010 | Carol Platt Liebau

Posted on 04/19/2010 5:06:47 AM PDT by Kaslin

As Barack Obama’s approval numbers trend ever lower – and a new Gallup poll reports that 50% of Americans believe the President doesn’t even deserve a second term – it’s going to be very interesting to watch Hillary Clinton. Well, not the Secretary of State herself, of course. She’s busy at Foggy Bottom, burnishing her foreign policy credentials. Instead, watch her husband.

Notwithstanding news accounts about the détente between the Clintons and Obama, surely the former president and his wife can’t help but feel that their predictions about the political disaster that would result from Obama’s inexperience and naivete, reportedly made during the 2008 campaign, amply borne out. With Hillary turning 65 in 2012, can anyone blame her (or her husband) for entertaining the idea of challenging Obama in two years if his popularity continues to plummet?

In fact, Democrats might be well-advised to take with a grain of salt any advice Bill Clinton offers in months to come. The greater the damage to the President (and his party) that accrues in the interim, the greater the justification for a new (yet experienced!) candidate to step in to “rescue” the tarnished Democrat brand in 2012.

Certainly, this rationale would explain the advice that President Clinton offered the Democrats in the midst of the health care debate. Push forward, he told them, predicting that “the minute health care reform passed, President Obama's approval ratings would go up 10 points." Of course, that simply didn’t happen, and every day, the ObamaCare vote looks like nothing so much as a Democrat political suicide pact. If Democrats are nervous now, consider that the ex-President insisted at the same time that Obama’s ratings would increase by 20 points by next year.

Most recently, President Clinton emerged to insult the members of the Tea Party. Invoking memories of the Oklahoma City bombing, he implicitly compared administration critics to domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh, insisting that “all you have to do is read the paper every day to see how many people there are who are deeply, deeply troubled.” If polls are to be believed, more Americans identify with Tea Partiers than with the President himself – and so Clinton’s remarks couldn’t be better designed to alienate voters from the Democrat establishment. At the very least, his comments will serve further to energize the administration’s most fervent opponents.

All of this could be attributed simply to political wrongheadedness and clumsy posturing – if it weren’t Bill Clinton. For years, Americans have been informed of his formidable political and strategic skills – and his political adversaries have learned, to their detriment, of his dexterity in assessing and responding to the public mood. If he is truly seeking to help the Obama administration, then it’s fair to say that the Comeback Kid has lost a lot of his kick.

On the other hand, if the former President dislikes being sidelined and upstaged by a younger, more powerful man – who is singlehandedly shredding the Democrat coalition that Clinton himself did so much to assemble – and misses the attention of being the undisputed leader of his party, then his actions aren’t so difficult to understand. If Clinton still resents the battering his image (especially in the black community) suffered at Obama’s hands in the 2008 campaign, then perhaps his words aren’t so inexplicable. Oh, yes, and if he wants to see himself and his legacy vindicated (and his wife’s years of hard work and forbearance repaid) by helping Hillary take her own shot at The White House – then maybe, just maybe, Bill Clinton’s behavior makes perfect sense.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: billclinton; clinton; clintons; hillary; hillary2012; hillaryclinton; puma; pumas

1 posted on 04/19/2010 5:06:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Is he promoting Hillary for the Supreme Court? (God help us.)


2 posted on 04/19/2010 5:10:09 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Kaslin

Interesting take. Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 04/19/2010 5:10:51 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t be fooled.

Both Clintons are as much communist as Obammie the Commie.


4 posted on 04/19/2010 5:15:07 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Kaslin
Keep and eye on Clinton's minions, Carvelle and Begala. They are usually sent out to set the stage.
5 posted on 04/19/2010 5:16:07 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 181)
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To: Kaslin

Fine, let her run. Not that it will fix the damage Hussein has done. Despite being shunned by the party in ‘08, she still went along with the game and aided in him being elected. That isn’t going to set well with many voters. No, the GOP played hot potato with this admin. and got their way making them just as guilty or more so. Still, the ball was in the rat’s court and even old wrinkled bulbous nosed and past his prime Bubba himself won’t be able to pull this one out of the fire.


6 posted on 04/19/2010 5:21:16 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Recon Dad

Both of your posts are right on IMO.


7 posted on 04/19/2010 5:22:58 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Dem Guard

I don’t think so, I think they are preparing to kneecap Obama - and I’m sure she’s gathered a great deal of damaging information on him since they became BFF. Hmmmm, that’s a cat fight I’m going to enjoy. I know Hillary remembers when Michelle made this comment:

Michelle Obama takes a shot at Hillary Clinton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc&feature=PlayList&p=6DD71E5CECC0E2AD&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=6
(That’s pretty funny since most of the country is aware that Michelle is a beard LOL)
or
Barack Obama: Hillary talking like she’s Annie Oakley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQxFtM9cfk&feature=related


8 posted on 04/19/2010 5:32:13 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; Kaslin

The Clintoon’s are best described as ‘Nazi’s’ - National Socialists’

‘Nazi’ is sometimes used by the extreme left to describe ‘Right Wingers’. That is because it is less left than Communism, but it is still far left.

Note that the Alinski’s are masters of recreating definitions to suit their leftist, Communist, Nazi, socialist cause.


9 posted on 04/19/2010 5:34:09 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Kaslin

Machiavelli has nothing on Slick Willy.


10 posted on 04/19/2010 5:35:00 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: Dem Guard
Is he promoting Hillary for the Supreme Court? (God help us.)

I bet that he is. He made a comment over the weekend that he "didn't think it's necessary for a SCOTUS pick to be a judge." Translated: "I can deliver a lot of votes for you in 2010 and 2012, 0bama. Pick Hillary."

11 posted on 04/19/2010 5:47:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: Kaslin

I expect that Hillary will challenge Obama in the 2012 primaries, both because of her ambitions and pressure from Democrat insiders after a Republican sweep of the 2010 elections and Obama’s continued drop in the polls.


12 posted on 04/19/2010 6:07:48 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: ScottinVA

Then again, the Supreme Court might be the last place he wants Hillary should he be brought up on treason charges etc. lol


13 posted on 04/19/2010 6:10:10 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Kaslin

If hClinton tries to challenge sitting-President Obama, she will be viewed badly by her own party.

The only way she can come out ahead is if the party dumps Obama (that is, he feigns illness and declines a 2nd term, for example). IIRC, only one sitting Prez has ever lost a primary to a member of his own party who went on to win the WH.

Otherwise, those so disenchanted with him will not vote for another Dem. They will vote for the opposition. That is, unless the Grand OLD Party pulls defeat out of the jaws of victory and nominations another Dole or McCain type candidate [which they can, and probably will, do].

Team Obama took down Team Clinton once. They likely can do it again. Even embattled, Obama can win a 2nd term if he manages to make the economy appear to be improving some. bClinton won a 2nd term, when many of us figured he couldn’t. Obama will likely do the same, with a few strategic moves in the next 2 years.

Incumbency is difficult to beat — in the primaries and in the general.


14 posted on 04/19/2010 6:11:23 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
I agree Bill Clinton is pretty much a commie, but Hillary falls closer to fascist/Nazism.
15 posted on 04/19/2010 6:12:28 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Kaslin

You will know when this is a reality when the seeded Clintonistas of the press begin publically scrutinizing bammy. Until then you know the Clintons have not decided it in their best interest. I would imagine that Hillary may need to step down before September to spend time with her ailing husband. That way she is removed from the Nov 2010 electoral disaster and can comment and rally the troops.


16 posted on 04/19/2010 6:15:07 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: nolongerademocrat

“I don’t think so, I think they are preparing to kneecap Obama.”

Yeah four lying, cheating ,socialist libs going at each other, how low could they go?? Get lots of popcorn! lol


17 posted on 04/19/2010 6:18:42 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

“Machiavelli has nothing on Slick Willy.”

It makes you wonder about reincarnation.


18 posted on 04/19/2010 6:23:50 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The Constitution is the issue, other issues are small potatoes. If we fail none will matter.)
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To: Dem Guard

Democrats are pushing for a gay into the Supreme Court it’s all about special treatment for votes.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 6:28:04 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: IMR 4350

I agree, but see that as being her approach to obtaining power.

NAZI-ism/Fascism is one of the incremental steps to absolute power over business and civil liberties, which I believe to be her ultimate goal.

The problem that every statist finds is that once they decide the government should be the dominate power in a society, there is no half-way point. What they find is that they must increase the scope of their power and the intensity of their power (at the expense of civil liberties) in order to try to control that which inevitably falls apart.

I see all these left-leaning -isms as nothing more than incremental steps toward absolute Statism, even if their adherents believe each to be an end in itself.


20 posted on 04/19/2010 6:38:44 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Vaduz
"Democrats are pushing for a gay into the Supreme Court it’s all about special treatment for votes."

Won't Hillary the old bi-sexual do? Or are they holding out for Oprah?

21 posted on 04/19/2010 6:41:06 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Dem Guard

Slick sounds like HE’S angling for nobama’s SCOTUS nominee.
Yeah, its sounds whacky, but nobama’s popularity and acceptance by America is sliding down so low and likly to go lower, he could throw Slick in just to rub all our noses in it.


22 posted on 04/19/2010 6:42:14 AM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: ScottinVA

The idea is widely held. Not all the justices in the history of the High Court came from lower courts. Hugo Black was in the US Senate when he was nominated. Earl Warren had been governor of California...


23 posted on 04/19/2010 7:08:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Kaslin

“On the other hand, if the former President dislikes being sidelined and upstaged by a younger, more powerful man –”

Someone on the radio last night said Clinton is “the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral.” He can’t get enough attention.


24 posted on 04/19/2010 7:09:14 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Vaduz

“Democrats are pushing for a gay into the Supreme Court it’s all about special treatment for votes.”

Yeah, but since Obama can’t appoint himself - who do you think he’ll pick? Oprah?


25 posted on 04/19/2010 7:11:27 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Kaslin
PERJURY !


26 posted on 04/19/2010 7:18:10 AM PDT by timestax (The so called news media is the enemy of freedom....timestax)
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To: nolongerademocrat

“I think they are preparing to kneecap Obama”

I sure hope so, as it puts a different spin on health care reform:
“Push forward, he told them, predicting that “the minute health care reform passed, President Obama’s approval ratings would go up 10 points.”

This implies Bill Clinton played head cheer-leader as quarterback Obama, running back Pelosi and tight end Reid led their team in a mad rush over a cliff. Bill Clinton was a disaster for his party while in office. Perhaps he is trying to outdo his own record while out of office. Certainly having Obama experience an off-year election debacle worse than 1994 will help divert attention from his own dismal political legacy. Dems own health care reform lock, stock, and barrel. They are their own worst enemy: with characters like Bill Clinton among their ranks, one can easily understand why.


27 posted on 04/19/2010 7:29:40 AM PDT by DrC
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To: DrC

The Clintons are not known for their forgiving spirit.


28 posted on 04/19/2010 7:33:40 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: goldi

“Clinton is “the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral.””

Having encouraged the Dems to carry out their mutual suicide pact on health care reform, evidently he plans to be the corpse at the funeral for his own Party.


29 posted on 04/19/2010 7:35:20 AM PDT by DrC
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To: nolongerademocrat

“most of the country is aware that Michelle is a beard LOL”

Who knew Michelle was warning us in code about her own husband’s lack of qualifications for office? If only more people had heeded her warning!


30 posted on 04/19/2010 7:37:01 AM PDT by DrC
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To: DrC

Yep Yep!


31 posted on 04/19/2010 7:50:42 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

With Nazism extreme wealth flows to a select few at the top. If the extremely wealthy want to stay that way they have to support the state and keep the people in power that are running the state.


32 posted on 04/19/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: nolongerademocrat
Obama isn't known for his forgiving spirit as well. Bill and Obama share a lot of common background. Both were abandoned by their natural fathers and later took the names of the men who married their mothers for a relatively short period of time. Both had mothers of questionable moral values and probably had to reconcile the notion of traditional motherhood to the reality of the women who were their natural mothers. Both went to Ivy League law schools and went back to the Midwest to get national credentials. Both have some murky trips overseas during their educational careers. Bill to Soviet Russia, Obama to Pakistan...and both countries were not easily accessible for American citizens in the years they traveled there. Both are career narcissists with no seeming conscious about lying or a total inability to discern fact from fiction as long as it furthers their careers. The big difference between the two men is their sexual appetites. Bill is one of the biggest womanizers ever. He makes Tiger Woods look like a choir boy. Obama is either asexual or gay or bi, and if he was ever really promiscuous, it was rumored to be during his Chicago days on the North side, not the South side. But my point is that they seem to be mean with all the traditional psychological factors fueling that nasty and unforgiving spirit. Why so many people didn't see these warning signs is one of the biggest mysteries of modern American life.
33 posted on 04/19/2010 11:32:38 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: madinmadtown

Wow, your comparison of those two sociopaths is right on the money!


34 posted on 04/19/2010 1:32:13 PM PDT by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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