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San Francisco Tea Party Out-Alinskys the Left
The American Thinker ^ | April l9. 2010 | Gini Wolters

Posted on 04/19/2010 7:01:56 AM PDT by cricket

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To: sydney smith

Money is what was traded for their labor, therefore money is the fruit of their labor. Money allows people to trade with others that do not necessarily require the result of their occupation.

When someone claims ownership to the fruits of another mans labor then it can be said that he is subjecting that man to slavery. Those who hold slaves view those slaves as property and whether or not the property is “well cared for” or not, it is still the property of another. Whether or not the fruit of the slave labor results in a school or a hospital or a picked field of cotton does not take away from the fact that slavery was the means in which it was built or picked. Any “noble” intentions are completely done in by the fact that slavery was the means.

Its not about money, its about the human principles and natural rights that give money its value between free men. Its about fighting slavery to the state and collective. Its about breaking free from the chains of socialism.


21 posted on 04/19/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by myself6
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To: concerned about politics

The ‘progressives’ attempts to impose their moral authority upon society is laughable.

“It’s the Corruption, Stupid!”


22 posted on 04/19/2010 8:07:32 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: sydney smith

“Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers
believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious-not a
provocateur.”

My question to you is where the hell have you been?

Having posed that question I will take a stab at an-
swering yours at least partially. Tea Party folks
believe that our already over spending government
has gone completely over board and our economy is
at serious risk. We are spending money we don’t
and won’t have. They also believe that the current
administration and legislature is leading us down
the path of cradle to grave nanny state. They be-
lieve that the government has certain responsibil-
ities but that we are heading in a direction that
will gradually deprive us of our freedoms.


23 posted on 04/19/2010 8:08:52 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: Sivad

If the tea party talks about money, money, money to the exclusion of all else they don’t have a chance to sway the public. They are to easy to poke fun at by the MSM. Particularly when it’s a lot of retirement age people collecting social security and medicare while at the same time maligning “Obamacare”. They also won’t have my support unless they speak out against immigration policy, affirmative action, outlandish military spending on useless wars and occupations of countries. They seem to only espouse “limited government”, and “freedom”. Nice words but they ain’t going nowhere with that. Trust me.


24 posted on 04/19/2010 8:16:19 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: sydney smith
I downloaded the below described course of 12 lectures from the Teaching Company. I have listened to five of twelve lectures so far, but each could be better described as a homily or, minimally, a truly inspired speech. The problem with trying to fit all that the Tea Party is about into a nutshell is very difficult. You raise a very good point about money, and indeed lecture five discusses the concept of private property and the right of a man to keep the fruits of his labors. I don't know if the series is still on sale, but I recommend it highly. It would answer your question better than I could.

http://www.teach12.com/storex/courseInfo.aspx?id=4855&d=American+Ideals%3a++Founding+a+%22Republic+of+Virtue%22

25 posted on 04/19/2010 8:23:03 AM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: cricket
...nearly 1,000 people filled San Francisco's Union Square for a Tax Day Tea Party, their voices reverberating off the canyon of skyscrapers

Union Square is a good place to hold rallies because of that audio effect. It is also in the heart of the Eighth Congressional District, represented by Nancy Pelosi.

26 posted on 04/19/2010 8:23:24 AM PDT by Rufii
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To: albie

Yep. Try finding parking if you don;t live in the city.
;-)


27 posted on 04/19/2010 8:23:25 AM PDT by humantech ("No one wants to live to see such evil times. Its what you do with the time you are given")
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To: Excellence

Thanks for your gentlemanly answer. I asked a question. And received invective for the most part, mixed in with quasi answers. No wonder the MSM has a field day with tea-partiers.


28 posted on 04/19/2010 8:31:50 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: sydney smith; All
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur.

'Their money'? You mean their concerns about their money because they see America becoming a 'food line' advertisement? By their wanting 'fair taxation' i.e. a moral taxation - not to mention one that falls within parameters of our Constitution? They want 'fair representation' by their Congressional Reps! Imagine having to protest for just that!

We have an un-American, tyrant-wannabe in our White House; and they want their Reps to remember who it is they serve - and what Country.

This is about 'Freedom' - and a soul in debt is not free. This is about the future 'soul' of our Country. It is about America forever being compromised to 'foreign interests' - and by consequence, our National Security. The consequences of which they do not want fall to 'our' America - nor the one we pass on to future Generations.

Of course, we do not work for our Government; our Government is supposed to - again by our Constitution - work for us! Is that now, too much to ask? Apparently so; and hence; the push back.

We are now threatened with Leadership that shares a willing and too often a 'determined' ignorance of our Constitution. Our rights are disappearing; and paramount to our rights, of course is our Freedom. We have less and less, thanks to ever moving privacy boundaries; and financial strictures imposed against citizenry; mafia style. It IS about saving Capitalism.

Tea Party is about - a Government out of control; and jeopardizing; all that Americans hold dear and what our Allies hold dear as well This is about staving off what was creeping; but is now the leaping MO's of socialism - aka a small text communism. This is about America - about 'repeal' and repair and restoring America. It is about NOT having our Country changed into a 'third-world model; nor a European 'weenie' state.

It is a whole lot more, of course; and their are variations of theme; but they are not themes of 'self-servance - as you imply. Tea Paryy folks; like the majority of Americans, do share common cause, by their shared patriotism and altruism - something the Left can NEVER never - authentically - claim.

(And here is where the Left's degraded, collective hate begins against those who 'party'_.

29 posted on 04/19/2010 8:47:06 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: sydney smith
I asked a question.

In a very snarkey way and you got back what you gave out. Cry me a river about the invective.

30 posted on 04/19/2010 8:47:30 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Rufii
Union Square is a good place to hold rallies because of that audio effect. It is also in the heart of the Eighth Congressional District, represented by Nancy Pelosi.

A pox on House of Pelosi!

How sweet it would be if this translated to real 'change' in California.

31 posted on 04/19/2010 8:52:28 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: cricket

It goes without saying that he did not acknowledge that there was no vandalism, looting, or attacks on counter-protesters.


32 posted on 04/19/2010 8:52:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: sydney smith
So?...You would like the the TEA Party to be the all encompassing “Everything Party”? If it isn't an “Everything Party” then its a worth nothing party? ( I don't thing so.)

Personally, I am grateful and I think it is a good strategy for the TEA Party to limit its focus and to do what its does in an effective manner.

We have Pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, Libertarian and isolationist, “oath-keeper”, Second Amendment, and anti-affirmative action groups now. And...I am willing to bet my 401 K that many of the members of these groups showed up to support the TEA Partiers precisely because they shared the values of the TEA Partiers.

By the way, I am especially interested in education, and Obama’s eligibility. Even though abolishing K-12 education and demanding that Obama prove his natural born status is barely on the radar of the TEA Partiers, the NRA, the Pro-LIfe,... etc., I still completely support the values that TEA Partiers and many other organizations are upholding.

33 posted on 04/19/2010 9:01:32 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Rush is my 'teddy bear' too. Appreciate Glenn's 'educating' (though not his Dem/Repub egalitarian field). But almost need medication to listen! OTOH. ..Rush retores my confidence and belief that we can overcome the-tyrant-in-our-White House.

Glenn provides much of the 'backdrop' and suggested tools./lol/ (. . .a great deal of info and much of which we get here; thanks to Freepers/and links and a 'net' full of warning. . .)

34 posted on 04/19/2010 9:02:26 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: sydney smith

Tea Party convention I went to here was big on Palin and social conservatism as much as fiscal stuff.

but nationwide the media portrays them as mostly fiscal

hard to tell

Dick Morris said the other night if there was a leader it was Palin

I doubt these San Fransiisco tea partiers are social righties but I could be wrong.


35 posted on 04/19/2010 9:06:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: sydney smith

“If the tea party talks about money, money, money to
the exclusion of all else they don’t have a chance to
sway the public.....”

Are you serious?
Just what is the Obama administration and the Demo
controlled congress talking about? Are they remind-
ing us how wonderful the nation will be when we
have achieved a socialist utopia? No. They’re
talking about money. They don’t talk about redis-
tribution of wealth, they just attempt to enact
laws that lead us in that direction.

And, just how is immigration policy, affirmative ac-
tion policy, and “outlandish military spending
on useless wars and occupations of countries” NOT
related to money, money, money?

The reality is that there are some issues that
are of current concern that cut across party
and basic philosophic beliefs. The Tea Party
folks have tapped in to those. Sorry if they
are not quite “Ron Paul” enough for you. But
they sure have the Dems squealing.

“Trust me.”
No thanks, I’m good.


36 posted on 04/19/2010 9:07:36 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: cricket

Nice article!


37 posted on 04/19/2010 9:12:16 AM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: SouthTexas; All
Good Job! Yes, while all Party's have merit; this one, should be a mentoring. Horowitz is right; (he tried to share this 'mirroring' MO to Bush; obviously; GW did not ' go there'- nor any other Repubs/including Rove,for that matter.

It is past time for Repubs and the rest of us to at least appreciate the Alynsky message per David's warning. . .This is a Repub history by MO; that does need 'change' and one Repub Leadership most resistant to. WE - at least - could begin with a new mantra: 'It's Obama's fault!'

. ..that should include 'Obama's Fault' per the volcano eruption - it's angry ash, falling from our skys; upon all heads really; as it is impacting the entire 'world stream' of finance; and of course, a citizenry so attached.

Obama reassured America that his signed Health Care Bill had NOT disrupted the heavens and so our earth, by consequence.

Obama LIED.

38 posted on 04/19/2010 9:20:28 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: nina0113

OK. How can these golden agers cry about Obamacare and hold up signs while at the same time scarfing up medicare part D benefits and using their medicare benefits for their doctor visits? How can they collect social security when their contributions were miniscule compared to their benefits? Come on. To harp on their fears over their ‘money’ will make them appear greedy, angry, white people(reference MSNBC). This will make them as effective as Palin—not very. They should get a platform with specifics that do not solely focus on ‘money issues’. This might allow others to feel more comfortable supporting them. It’s the social issues that sway the vote—not “let’s get back to the founding fathers’ ideas of states rights” and “no Obamacare!”.


39 posted on 04/19/2010 9:21:45 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: whinecountry
Nice article!

Agree; and more and daily at American Thinker blog. (linked above/per posting). /Rush quotes often quotes/shares from AT./

40 posted on 04/19/2010 9:26:45 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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