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San Francisco Tea Party Out-Alinskys the Left
The American Thinker ^ | April l9. 2010 | Gini Wolters

Posted on 04/19/2010 7:01:56 AM PDT by cricket

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To: jiggyboy; All
It goes without saying that he did not acknowledge that there was no vandalism, looting, or attacks on counter-protesters.

LOl/ but of course, his premise re 'purpose' does not really speak to that. But glad you mentioned it nonetheless.

It does speak to what are 'missing pieces' when at least, comparing the 'Right Way' versus the Left's. It speaks to what is the Leftist MO per protests, that of silencing' their opposition. Debased behaviors - engendered by their fascist/self-serving intentions which stands in abject contrast to intentions by 'Right'; and to those of any - authentic - Tea Party participants. The Left's protesting MO; IS an organized self-servance, played against those they expect to accommodate it.

(think: Baby, banging spoon in high chair/throwing food. What the Left offers are organized tantrums. They should embarass themselves; but, like 'babies' have no 'self-conscience/consciousness'.) Beyond that; of course; they cannot be excused. These are 'big people' unplugged.

41 posted on 04/19/2010 9:47:46 AM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: sydney smith
They also won’t have my support unless they speak out against immigration policy, affirmative action, outlandish military spending on useless wars and occupations of countries.

You'll always have Pat Buchanan's Reform Party.

42 posted on 04/19/2010 10:43:49 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

You got it! Seriously, I think he makes more sense than all the tea partiers steeped together!


43 posted on 04/19/2010 11:09:41 AM PDT by sydney smith
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To: greylurker

“They Believe that it is wrong for the goberment to take %50 of the fruits of their labor, or how-bout we say they don’t like being half a slave.”
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Half a slave? I have seen figures that say that a slave on a typical cotton plantation in the eighteen fifties actually consumed a larger percentage of his own production than the average American taxpayer.

Under the Feudal system the serfs probably averaged giving one third of their production to the Knight who owned the land. Taxpayers now may pay fifty percent to the government and then they have to buy their own land and house.

Half a slave? You may want to recalculate that. It is only the vastly greater productivity of modern methods that allow the government to take the huge percentage that it now takes, under old methods there would not be enough left to sustain life in the slaves. The parasite would kill the host at current levels of taxation.

It is really only the tremendous productivity of modern agricultural methods (and secondarily the great productivity of industry) that allows us to pretend that we are NOT all slaves. Of course I only refer to those who still pay taxes. We have another class of citizens that was unknown in feudal times, the Drones who consume far more than they produce but rather than being considered idle nobility they are called the poor. Poor used to mean someone who lacked the basic necessities of life, now it refers to someone who lives rather well but not by his own labor.

Of course we still have the royals and nobles but they are called politicians, athletes, entertainers etc. Mostly our jesters are unintentionally so, many of them bear the title of “Reverend”.


44 posted on 04/19/2010 11:25:00 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: sydney smith
No wonder the MSM has a field day with tea-partiers.

Well its easy to see where you get you news and information, the very fact that you had to ask what the Tee Parties believe in indicates your sources are limited.

Yes the MSN has been having fun mischaracterizing the Tee Parties, President Bush, the war on terror, the economy, Islam, racism, global warming and every other “cause” to the point where their market share looks like a deflated tire already running on the rim. Their print media is all but dead, the nightly new casts have lower ratings than a light night comedian pretending to be a newsman. Tens of thousands of former network news employees are laughing as they reach into the dumpster for their next meal.

A big part of the Tee Parties movement is mocking and exposing the MSM along with corrupt government. No one cares what the MSM thinks anymore, what remaining credibility they once had was sacrificed in their zeal to elect theirchosen one.

The fact that you found Free Republic is a step in the right direction of freeing your mind.

45 posted on 04/19/2010 1:11:37 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: cricket

Thank Heaven for David Horowitz!


46 posted on 04/19/2010 1:15:59 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: sydney smith
I am learning, also. After 9-11 I purchased a set of the Great Books of the Western World because I knew instinctively that the attack was one on Plato, Aristotle, and all of the philosophers as much as it was an attack on the buildings themselves. This Tea Party Movement has the feel of pre-independence sentiment, that has been reinforced by what I have learned by these lectures. They are not on sale anymore, though you can sign up to be notified when it does come on sale again. I wrote to the Teaching Company today begging them to put it back up again. The speaker is unequivocal in his passion for the intellectual pedigree of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. He even spoke of the true meaning of “Happiness,” which means, from the original Greek, “a happy spirit” (happiness) and “to flourish,” which should not be confused with “prosper.” Indeed, to flourish means to grow in every manner, physically, spiritually, and in maturity. Our language has been degraded; happiness has been conflated with pleasure.
47 posted on 04/19/2010 2:47:45 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: TChris
Thank Heaven for David Horowitz!

So true!

(Don't know if you read his book 'Radical Son'; but was the closest to 'fly on the wall' per radicalism of sxites-including Black Panthers; whom he worked for; through Chicago Convention/riots and the scenes behind the 'scene' and through his final 'aha' moments per evils of Leftism and his eventual embracing of 'Reaganism'.

(And his childhood certainly explained the 'red diaper babies'; and as well; explains how it is, McCarthy was right.

A great read for all; including of course, the mature but 'still Liberal' - and proud of it - friend, you might have - or just one you 'know'/lol/; who has not a clue, really; as to what it is about.

48 posted on 04/19/2010 3:15:38 PM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: Excellence

Great comments. . .


49 posted on 04/19/2010 3:20:45 PM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: laotzu
These tools only have one use. Is this the "end goal" conservatives want to "dial in to"?

What do you think?

50 posted on 04/19/2010 3:27:05 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: sydney smith
Besides their money, what exactly do the tea partiers believe in? Specifically. I’m actually serious—not a provocateur...

Why do you think it's about money?

51 posted on 04/19/2010 3:28:26 PM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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To: cricket; All

PLEASE FORWARD these links to anyone who has been lied to by the media and politicians about the Tea Party Movement.

(Which of course is everybody),

“The True Face of the Tea Partiers”

Part One:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tarzantripes2#p/a/u/1/_Pm1k7MK850

Part Two:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tarzantripes2#p/a/u/0/NDQWkBcq3qw


52 posted on 04/19/2010 3:46:13 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Pray for our leaders: Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.)
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To: gogeo

They focus on only one thing-—taxes. Taxes and money are not the only things they should be concerned about. A fellow freeper pointed me toward the Reform Party. They enunciated, clearly, whatthey stood for and listed their principles. All I see with these tea partiers is a bunch of angry old women worried about taxes and health care reform. Sorry.


53 posted on 04/19/2010 5:26:00 PM PDT by sydney smith
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To: laotzu
These tools only have one use. Is this the "end goal" conservatives want to "dial in to"?

For certain, no arguing for the 'rules per se; and the Leftist MO behind them. But Alynsky does takes some basic 'psychology' and puts a political point on it by adding degraded Marxist MO. I think by this story; it is clear; what the Tea Party folks used and how well it worked; if only by 'changing the tables'- making a 'wrong' a right.

We are told that 'perception is reality'; we know that an idea, if it is repeated often enough; takes on a life of it's own i.e. (Bush lied/people died/it's Bush's Fault). Political Correctness is the most dangerous of Marxist tools i.e.change the word - change perception. We need to use words that bring us back to the truth! We see that working in the very name 'Tea Party' and that all this now conjures. We don't want to 'destroy' our target; we need only identify and destroy the lies behind it.

54 posted on 04/19/2010 6:07:10 PM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: FrankR
They start them out young...even a young obama... website.

LOl...

Photo Shop... Alynsky in a picture - and worth a thousand words. And more strange; a truth actually told!

55 posted on 04/19/2010 6:21:06 PM PDT by cricket (We cannot allow the 'man who would be king' to be one!/No demon-no demonization. . .)
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To: myself6

Excellent reply!


56 posted on 04/19/2010 7:10:48 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: sydney smith

LOL! The smell of troll is strong on this one.

Have fun with it till it’s gone.


57 posted on 04/19/2010 7:15:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: sydney smith

Tea Party convention I went to here was big on Palin and social conservatism as much as fiscal stuff.

but nationwide the media portrays them as mostly fiscal

hard to tell

Dick Morris said the other night if there was a leader it was Palin

I doubt these San Fransiisco tea partiers are social righties but I could be wrong.


58 posted on 04/19/2010 7:19:20 PM PDT by wardaddy (Will adobe ever fix shockwave to work consistently?)
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To: cricket

Yup, I’ve read it. Of course, all his “friends” turned on him in hatred after his conversion away from the dark side.


59 posted on 04/19/2010 11:23:14 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: sydney smith
All I see with these tea partiers is a bunch of angry old women worried about taxes and health care reform. Sorry.

That's probably more of a commentary on you than them. Sorry.

60 posted on 04/20/2010 12:20:09 AM PDT by gogeo ("Every one has a right to be an idiot. He abuses the privilege!" Groucho Marx)
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