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Were Nazis Right-Wing?
Pajamas Media ^ | April 19 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 04/19/2010 2:12:06 PM PDT by AJKauf

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To: AJKauf
A Little Secret About the Nazis
41 posted on 04/19/2010 2:43:34 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: AJKauf

Dr. Balint Vazsonyi:

Contemporary usage of right and left is a product of the Communist (Bolshevik) Party of the Soviet Union-1930’s vintage-branding everyone right-wing who deviated from, or disagreed with, its tenets. At that time, all Americans, except for outright communists, were declared right-wing. Since, at that same time, Nazi Germany considered Americans to be on the left, “right” and “left” are clearly devoid of intellectual integrity. Rather, they function as a tool to stifle all opposition to socialist ideology.

http://balintvazsonyi.org/washtimes/wt031798.html


42 posted on 04/19/2010 2:44:44 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: "I support his [McCain] position on immigration.")
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To: AJKauf
The only significant difference between Communism, Fascism and Liberalism is the spelling and the latter group denies there's any.
43 posted on 04/19/2010 2:46:00 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: AJKauf

Hitler killed off the Socialists in the “Night of the Long Knives”, the SA was full of ex-Communists, and Rohm and Company, espoused Socialist ideals.

Hitler needed to win over the German Industrialists he needed to feed his war machine, so part of the reason for purging the SA was to alleviate their fears that the Nazis would nationalize the industries. Of the Nazi inner circle, probably Goebbels was the most socialist. Hitler was more pragmatic.

However, Hitler still mandated centralized planning of the German economy, but not ownership of the means of production.


44 posted on 04/19/2010 2:48:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AJKauf

They were to the right of the communists, whom they campaigned against. They believed in centrally controlling the means of production, without nationalizing the companies necessarily. The distinction by many as to what is right wing, becomes an ideological one of “nationalism”. However, the Soviet’s practiced nationalism as much as they preached internationalism. After WWII, many of the Hitler youth songs were translated and used by the soviets.
This idea of ueber -patriotism, is why the right is always compared to the fascists. The left is frightened of any outward exclamation of love of one’s country, always mistaking it for an act of superiority. I had to chuckle when Obama made that statement, “like it or not, we are still a superpower”.
tsk, tsk...letting the marxist fears slip.

It is an archaic label at this point, because economic policies and political power under Hitler were akin to what we understand as leftist policies.


45 posted on 04/19/2010 2:51:42 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: the_Watchman

Were they enemies?

I think that there disagreement was in style more than substance. They basically disagreed on who would rule the world, not on how.


46 posted on 04/19/2010 2:51:57 PM PDT by Badray (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: AJKauf

“...I propose that there is no left or right, only an up or down. Up to man’s age old dream of the maximum of personal liberty consistent with order, or down to the antheap of totalitarianism...”

Ronald Reagan, 1964

Our founders were “up”, Nazis, Marxists, socialists, tyrants, dictators, and our current administration are all “down”.


47 posted on 04/19/2010 2:52:12 PM PDT by ConservativeAtLast
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To: luvbach1

You’re absolutely right and it isn’t helped by Pat “never met a Nazi I didn’t like” Buchanan.


48 posted on 04/19/2010 2:53:22 PM PDT by avoth
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To: the_daug

Great article. Thanks.


49 posted on 04/19/2010 2:55:22 PM PDT by avoth
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To: stockpirate

This happened during both the birth of the Soviet Union and East Germany after WWII. I had family living in both dictatorships. Businesses were not immediately seized, but it became to onerous to continue to comply. Both sets of my great-grandparents, simply had enough and signed over both properties and manufacturing entities to the communists.


50 posted on 04/19/2010 2:56:29 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: AJKauf

Left-wing: National Socialist is the English translation of NAZI.


51 posted on 04/19/2010 2:56:51 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: the_Watchman
The reality is that many self-described anarchists are really statists.

Bang on. Most anarchists are marxists to the degree that they can articulate a world view of any kind. The kid trashing a Starbucks might entertain the conceit that he is an anarchist but he is one only in the sense of the old pre-soviet anarchists. Mostly he's a poser, but a marxist poser.

52 posted on 04/19/2010 2:57:05 PM PDT by marron
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To: wastedyears

Communists. Victors write the history. Nazis vs. Soviets in WWII was a left vs. left conflict.


53 posted on 04/19/2010 2:57:25 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: AJKauf

The most successful attempt on Hitler’s life was by Conservative Catholics.


54 posted on 04/19/2010 2:57:34 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
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To: AJKauf

mark


55 posted on 04/19/2010 2:59:23 PM PDT by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: dfwgator
Well said.

Communists seek to own the means of production

Fascists/Socialists seek to control the means of production.

They both seek totalitarian power. There's very little difference between them.

On a related point: here's an interesting visual tidbit that illuminates the common source of communism and fascism. The following are pictures of 1917 rubles in two different denominations. FReepers will note that both of them have swastikas in the middle.


56 posted on 04/19/2010 3:00:36 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Noumenon

Could you explain it please?


57 posted on 04/19/2010 3:00:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Dan(9698)

They aren’t far right.

Big government vs Small government.


58 posted on 04/19/2010 3:01:35 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: stevem

which nation do you suppose he is a nationalist for?


59 posted on 04/19/2010 3:02:01 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: AJKauf

Business Under Nazis
by Ralph R. Reiland

1944, Ludwig von Mises published one of his least-known masterworks: Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the Total State and Total War. Drawing on his prewar experience in Vienna, watching the rise of the National Socialists in Germany (the Nazis), who would eventually take over his own homeland, he set out to draw parallels between the Russian and German experience with socialism.

It was common in those days, as it is in ours, to identify the Communists as leftist and the Nazis as rightists, as if they stood on opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. But Mises knew differently. They both sported the same ideological pedigree of socialism. “The German and Russian systems of socialism have in common the fact that the government has full control of the means of production. It decides what shall be produced and how. It allots to each individual a share of consumer’s goods for his consumption.”

The difference between the systems, wrote Mises, is that the German pattern “maintains private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary prices, wages, and markets.” But in fact the government directs production decisions, curbs entrepreneurship and the labor market, and determines wages and interest rates by central authority. “Market exchange,” says Mises, “is only a sham.”

Mises’s account is confirmed by a remarkable book that appeared in 1939, published by Vanguard Press in New York City (and unfortunately out of print today). It is The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism by Guenter Reimann, then a 35-year-old German writer. Through contacts with German business owners, Reimann documented how the “monster machine” of the Nazis crushed the autonomy of the private sector through onerous regulations, harsh inspections, and the threat of confiscatory fines for petty offenses.

“Industrialists were visited by state auditors who had strict orders to examine the balance sheets and all bookkeeping entries of the company or individual businessmen for the preceding two, three, or more years until some error or false entry was found,” explains Reimann. “The slightest formal mistake was punished with tremendous penalties. A fine of millions of marks was imposed for a single bookkeeping error.”

Reimann quotes from a businessman’s letter: “You have no idea how far state control goes and how much power the Nazi representatives have over our work. The worst of it is that they are so ignorant. These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth.’ Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.

“While state representatives are busily engaged in investigating and interfering, our agents and salesmen are handicapped because they never know whether or not a sale at a higher price will mean denunciation as a ‘profiteer’ or ‘saboteur,’ followed by a prison sentence. You cannot imagine how taxation has increased. Yet everyone is afraid to complain. Everywhere there is a growing undercurrent of bitterness. Everyone has his doubts about the system, unless he is very young, very stupid, or is bound to it by the privileges he enjoys.

“There are terrible times coming. If only I had succeeded in smuggling out $10,000 or even $5,000, I would leave Germany with my family. Business friends of mine are convinced that it will be the turn of the ‘white Jews’ (which means us, Aryan businessmen) after the Jews have been expropriated. The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that we are still independent businessmen.”

As Mises says, we are “independent” only in a decorous sense. Under fascism, explains this businessman, the capitalist “must be servile to the representatives of the state” and “must not insist on rights, and must not behave as if his private property rights were still sacred.” It’s the businessman, characteristically independent, who is “most likely to get into trouble with the Gestapo for having grumbled incautiously.”

“Of all businessmen, the small shopkeeper is the one most under control and most at the mercy of the party,” recounts Reimann. “The party man, whose goodwill he must have, does not live in faraway Berlin; he lives right next door or right around the corner. This local Hitler gets a report every day on what is discussed in Herr Schultz’s bakery and Herr Schmidt’s butcher shop. He would regard these men as ‘enemies of the state’ if they complained too much. That would mean, at the very least, the cutting of their quota of scarce and hence highly desirable goods, and it might mean the loss of their business licenses. Small shopkeepers and artisans are not to grumble.”

“Officials, trained only to obey orders, have neither the desire, the equipment, nor the vision to modify rules to suit individual situations,” Reimann explains. “The state bureaucrats, therefore, apply these laws rigidly and mechanically, without regard for the vital interests of essential parts of the national economy. Their only incentive to modify the letter of the law is in bribes from businessmen, who for their part use bribery as their only means of obtaining relief from a rigidity which they find crippling.”

Says another businessman: “Each business move has become very complicated and is full of legal traps which the average businessman cannot determine because there are so many new decrees. All of us in business are constantly in fear of being penalized for the violation of some decree or law.”

Business owners, explains another entrepreneur, cannot exist without a “collaborator,” i.e., a “lawyer” with good contacts in the Nazi bureaucracy, one who “knows exactly how far you can circumvent the law.” Nazi officials, explains Reimann, “obtain money for themselves by merely taking it from capitalists who have funds available with which to purchase influence and protection,” paying for their protection “as did the helpless peasants of feudal days.”

“It has gotten to the point where I cannot talk even in my own factory,” laments a factory owner. “Accidentally, one of the workers overheard me grumbling about some new bureaucratic regulation and he immediately denounced me to the party and the Labor Front office.”

Reports another factory owner: “The greater part of the week I don’t see my factory at all. All this time I spend in visiting dozens of government commissions and offices in order to get raw materials I need. Then there are various tax problems to settle and I must have continual conferences and negotiations with the Price Commission. It sometimes seems as if I do nothing but that, and everywhere I go there are more leaders, party secretaries, and commissars to see.” In this totalitarian paradigm, a businessman, declares a Nazi decree, “practices his functions primarily as a representative of the State, only secondarily for his own sake.” Complain, warns a Nazi directive, and “we shall take away the freedom still left you.”

In 1933, six years before Reimann’s book, Victor Klemperer, a Jewish academic in Dresden, made the following entry in his diary on February 21: “It is a disgrace that gets worse with every day that passes. And there’s not a sound from anyone. Everyone’s keeping his head down.”

It is impossible to escape the parallels between Guenter Reimann’s account of doing business under the Nazis and the “compassionate,” “responsible,” and regulated “capitalism” of today’s U.S. economy. At least the German government was frank enough to give the right name to its system of economic control.

* * * * *

Ralph R. Reiland, owner of Amel’s Restaurant in Pittsburgh, is associate professor of economics at Robert Morris College.
FURTHER READING: Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government (Spring Mills, Penn.: Libertarian Press, [1944] 1985); Guenter Reimann, The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism (New York: Vanguard Press, 1939); F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1947).

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60 posted on 04/19/2010 3:03:44 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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