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Hate: Antigovernment extremists are on the rise—and on the march.(Barf)
Newsweek ^ | April 19, 2010 | Evan Thomas and Eve Conant

Posted on 04/19/2010 3:24:51 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator

Stewart Rhodes does not seem like an extremist. He is a graduate of Yale Law School and a former U.S. Army paratrooper and congressional staffer. He is not at all secretive. In February he was sitting at a table at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at a fancy downtown hotel in Washington, handing out fliers and selling T shirts for his organization, the Oath Keepers. Rhodes says he has 6,000 dues-paying members, active and retired police and military, who promise never to take orders to disarm U.S. citizens or herd them into concentration camps. Rhodes told a NEWSWEEK reporter, "We're not a militia." Oath Keepers do not run around the woods on the weekend shooting weapons or threatening the violent overthrow of the government. Their oath is to uphold the Constitution and defend the American people from dictatorship.

SUBSCRIBE Click Here to subscribe to NEWSWEEK and save up to 88% >> But by conjuring up the specter of revolution—or counterrevolution—is Rhodes adding to the threat of real violence? Oath Keepers are "a particularly worrisome example of the 'patriot' revival," according to Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which monitors hate speech and extremist organizations. "Patriot" groups—described by the SPLC as outfits "that see the federal government as part of a plot to impose 'one-world government' on liberty-loving Americans"—are "roaring back" after years out of the limelight, according to Potok. Notorious in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, the patriot groups seemed to fade away under the shadow of 9/11, but hard times and the nation's first African-American president seem to have brought about a revival—from 149 groups in 2008 to 512 (127 of them militias) in 2009, according to the SPLC.

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I read this article from Newsweek, today, while I was getting my hair cut. Another slant from the lefties in the media.
1 posted on 04/19/2010 3:24:52 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: VRW Conspirator

All these useful idiots in the media got their marching orders from Rahm to write these fairy tales, it appears.


2 posted on 04/19/2010 3:26:31 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: VRW Conspirator
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Not bloody likely.

3 posted on 04/19/2010 3:28:24 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: VRW Conspirator

My gawd...This is getting out of hand.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 3:28:55 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Where’s the “hate” around being “anti-government?”

Newsweak is a liberal tabloid that I can’t wait any longer for it to go bankrupt.

I want to see them all out of a job and their investors ripped off.


6 posted on 04/19/2010 3:29:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

This is a last ditch effort by the other side. They are losing their power.....


7 posted on 04/19/2010 3:30:38 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: VRW Conspirator

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an extremist hate group.

It is overtly anti-Christian (and I note that as a Jew).


8 posted on 04/19/2010 3:30:49 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Hate is too strong an emotion to spread it willy-nilly throughout society. So, I reserve it for people who really deserve it, like so-called journalists who do not understand their profession. Like these two, for instance, who make no effort to get the facts down straight, as the first order of business.

Hate should also not be wasted on minor characters, ankle-biters like Keith Olbermann. He is beneath contempt, but he does not deserve hate. Come to think of it, Evan Thomas is close to the who-cares border as well, LOL.

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster)"

The Boy Who Talked About Violence

9 posted on 04/19/2010 3:34:18 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: VRW Conspirator
2007: Newsweek's Evan Thomas: ‘Our Job Is To Bash the President’
(Bush that is)
http://newsbusters.org/node/10631

The same Evan Thomas, 2 years later:
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: Obama Is ‘Sort of God’
“I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above – above the world, he’s sort of God.”
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/newsweeks-evan-thomas-obama-is-sort-of-god-is-obama-sort-of-like-a-god-to-you/question-422931/?page=12

10 posted on 04/19/2010 3:34:56 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: VRW Conspirator
Oh those radical extremists! The left sees them everywhere!


11 posted on 04/19/2010 3:34:58 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: VRW Conspirator
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Make it 99% discount, and I still won't buy it..unless it's cheaper and softer than toilet paper that is.

12 posted on 04/19/2010 3:37:08 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: VRW Conspirator

Thank God for Oath Keepers. I pray the movement grows to encompass most of our military. How far would Hitler have gone without a mindless military taking orders.


13 posted on 04/19/2010 3:38:37 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: VRW Conspirator

They frame the argument as if WE the People are mere subjects of the government.

We the People are anti-Monster-cancerous-do-all government.

We the People are anti-government-that-redistributes-wealth.

We the People are anti-government-subverting-processes-to-push-bills-that-clearly-are-bad-and-most-people-made-that-clear.


14 posted on 04/19/2010 3:39:41 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: VRW Conspirator

What’s wrong with anti-governmentalism? It’s a fundamental American trait.


15 posted on 04/19/2010 3:39:50 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: SmokingJoe

And the elitist call us “cracker barrel philosophers”.

So be it. We do not forget.

Their scorn and contempt will be repaid by We the People.


16 posted on 04/19/2010 3:40:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

EVERY ONE OF THESE vicious people should be ashamed of themselves. Since they won’t, WE need to shame them!


17 posted on 04/19/2010 3:40:46 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cicero

SUBSCRIBE Click Here to subscribe to NEWSWEEK and save up to 88%
Not bloody likely.

Not if it was 188%


18 posted on 04/19/2010 3:41:53 PM PDT by jessduntno (I've never been a member of the Democrat Party. I stepped in it once, but scraped it off.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I do not see Newsweek surviving as a print Magazine much longer. They are losing readers and will end up like a Salon Magazine, if that.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 3:42:13 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: VRW Conspirator

The Newscreeps have it wrong as usual.. Ma and Pa Americans are upset at the Extremists in the White House. They are going down. They are exposed.


20 posted on 04/19/2010 3:45:42 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: VRW Conspirator

The left is in a tizzy because Americans won’t roll over and play dead for ANY Marxists.


21 posted on 04/19/2010 3:46:19 PM PDT by A message
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To: Texas Fossil
NewsWEAK is dying anyways. Their circulation is down, their revenues are down, their profits have been wiped out, they hev been laying off staff, their influence is just a fraction of what it used to be, and they are increasingly irrelevant.
They can shout all they want. Few people are listening.

Newsweek Publisher’s Magazine Division Losses Widen Last Year
"In its fiscal year-end financial report released this week, the Washington Post Co. said its magazine division—which includes Newsweek—reported an operating loss of $29.3 million. That’s down from a $16.1 million loss during 2008. Revenues declined 27 percent to $184.2 million."

http://www.foliomag.com/2010/newsweek-publisher-s-magazine-division-losses-widen-last-year

22 posted on 04/19/2010 3:48:59 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: VRW Conspirator
Apparently this is the Democrat 2010 election strategy—fabricate right-wing threats, slurs and hate and direct the news media to amplify it. But in the age of the Internet, talk radio and FOX News, political theater doesn't work like it used to.
23 posted on 04/19/2010 3:49:53 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I would never subscribe to Newsweek. I am, however, a proud member of Oathkeepers


24 posted on 04/19/2010 3:52:22 PM PDT by PDMiller
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To: VRW Conspirator

So they are still screaming racism huh? What a bunch of flipping morons.If Obambi had white skin, which he well could have had, he would still be despised by me, and by a lot of others. It makes no difference you media morons! A marxist is a marxist no matter what his skin color is.


25 posted on 04/19/2010 3:52:48 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I get it now. If you disagree with obama, you “hate.” If you’re Jeremiah Wright, you’re good.


26 posted on 04/19/2010 3:53:52 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (fasten your persecution straps, sports fans.)
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To: GoCards

Right. You may notice the Crats are paniced about getting out the Black Base. They are trying to get them excited but with no new Freebies are worried they will not show up in November. They will attempt to scare and anger them to get them to vote.


27 posted on 04/19/2010 3:53:57 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: VRW Conspirator
First, I loathe things like "barf" added to a headline, because such additions try to get me to engage in group think. I can form my own opinions about articles, thank you very much.

Second, the Left never seems overly agitated when hate comes from among their own.

Third, Newsweek would do well to tell us where in the Constitution "hate speech" is prohibited. Where in the Constitution does it say that only mealy mouthed, puff ball, inoffensive speech is protected by the First Amendment? (I am opposed to so-called hate crime legislation largely for this reason.) Where were they when Michael Moore, Rosie O'Donnell, Julia Roberts, George Clooney, Alec Baldwin, the so-called 9/11 truthers, and a slew of other Left-wing types spewed vicious tripe against President George W. Bush, and against President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan back in the day? Where have they been since 2008 when the Left generated hideous lies about Gov. Sarah Palin's infant son?

Fourth, someone should buy Newsweek a clue that there is a difference between outright threats to do physical harm, and political speech with which the Left happens to disagree. Furthermore, neither the Right nor the Left have a corner on the market of physical violence in the name of political beliefs. Radical Islamists have much in common with Marxist derivative totalitarians, yet I don't see Newsweek and other Left-wing media wringing their hands about hate from that quarter.

28 posted on 04/19/2010 4:01:00 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: SmokingJoe

A publishing deathwish. Very hard to understand why they would let support of the left destroy the company. Corporatism?

It is not about media (print or electronic) but about content.

They simply do not get it.


29 posted on 04/19/2010 4:06:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Its called fear...


30 posted on 04/19/2010 4:16:21 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Texas Fossil

Don’t tell anybody I said this, but you can join oathkeepers right now
oathkeepers.org

god bless America


31 posted on 04/19/2010 4:19:39 PM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: PDMiller
I hope the ranks of Oathkeepers swell as our troops come home.

I wish there were an organization called "Pistol Packing Mamas" - ahhh, that would let white haired ole grannys join.

I made this and wore it every time I went downtown during the election. Had a lot more thumbs up than angry looks.

Weather's warming up up here. I think I'll dig this out for summer. Like I say, I get a lot of thumbs and smiles and fun conversations - but the occasional sour face never says anything - I think they're a bit hesitant to take on a fiesty ole gramma. Smart thinking. I'd wipe the floor with them, verbally.

32 posted on 04/19/2010 4:22:51 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: PDMiller
I hope the ranks of Oathkeepers swell as our troops come home.

I wish there were an organization called "Pistol Packing Mamas" - ahhh, that would let white haired ole grannys join.

I made this and wore it every time I went downtown during the election. Had a lot more thumbs up than angry looks.

Weather's warming up up here. I think I'll dig this out for summer. Like I say, I get a lot of thumbs and smiles and fun conversations - but the occasional sour face never says anything - I think they're a bit hesitant to take on a fiesty ole gramma. Smart thinking. I'd wipe the floor with them, verbally.

33 posted on 04/19/2010 4:22:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: VRW Conspirator

“Only ‘hatriots’ would actually uphold their sworn oath to defend the Constitution!”


34 posted on 04/19/2010 4:23:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: VRW Conspirator

The second ANYONE quotes the racist group “SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER”, just proves the whole premise of that article or interview is BOGUS.

Tear it up and throw it in the cat box. IF your cat will let you. Newsweek isn’t good for anything else.

Well, maybe fish wrapping at the market. Maybe.


35 posted on 04/19/2010 4:24:17 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: GloriaJane

Oh, this SO needs to be a new conservative meme!! Know where I can find the HolyO image?!? I’ve got ideas! :-)


36 posted on 04/19/2010 4:25:29 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: Wolfstar
First, I loathe things like "barf" added to a headline...

Aw come on Wolfstar! You have been around here long enough to know that there are certain unwritten rules here at FR. Anyway, if I did NOT put the barf notice in, someone would post (smarmy voice) "where is the barf notice?" doh!

37 posted on 04/19/2010 4:26:01 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wolfstar

And what gives the gov’t the right to tell us who to hate? I told some of my liberal “friends” that the healthcare bill is darn likely to cost me my job and/or many others in my line of work. Why shouldn’t I hate the people who pushed it through against the will of the people? It comes down to this, Jesus might have been able to love evil people, but I’m not Jesus. And that crowd in d.c. is evil to the core. The “good” news is, the more they try to quash hatred of evil, the stronger the hatred grows...


38 posted on 04/19/2010 4:26:55 PM PDT by dcgst4
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To: VRW Conspirator

From a DTogo vanity:

Tea Party rallies: thousands

Tea Party participants: millions

Tea Party squabbles with Law Enforcement: 0

Tea Parties confronted by riot police: 0

Tea Parties dispersed by tear gas: 0

Tea Party arrests: 0

Tea Parties causing violence/injuries: 0

Tea Parties causing property damage: 0

Tea Parties responsible for the death of anybody: 0


39 posted on 04/19/2010 4:28:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?lang //hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: VRW Conspirator

I know, but still, the barf notice is annoying to a very free thinker like me. But it’s a small complaint, and I probably shouldn’t have mentioned it. You’re right. I’ve been around here a long time. :)


40 posted on 04/19/2010 4:30:00 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Ummmm! You said “cracker”!! Isn’t that racist??

Oh, wait, it’s a name for white people. Never mind. Only white people can be racist. Some liberal scientists proved it or somethin’.

/sarc


41 posted on 04/19/2010 4:30:24 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: pillut48

No but maybe you could find it in google images.


42 posted on 04/19/2010 4:30:58 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: maine-iac7
I wish there were an organization called "Pistol Packing Mamas" - ahhh, that would let white haired ole grannys join.

Start it yourself. Get a free web site and put a link to it here on FR. List the web site in a letter to NEW GUN WEEK, and to other gun magazines.

43 posted on 04/19/2010 4:33:56 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: VRW Conspirator
Hate: Anti-American extremists are on the defensive—and on the march to oblivion..(Barf)
44 posted on 04/19/2010 4:35:31 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: dcgst4
And what gives the gov’t the right to tell us who to hate?

I agree with you. "Hate" is defined as intense animosity or dislike. "To hate" is defined as to feel hostility or animosity toward; to detest.

The Left would like to tell us -- indeed legislate -- that we cannot detest them or their policies. They, of course, would be exempt from such dictates. To which I say, "screw them."

45 posted on 04/19/2010 4:36:37 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

>> Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)

Vindictive trouble maker.


46 posted on 04/19/2010 4:37:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: SmokingJoe
Nice snag Joe. Evan Thomas is deefinitely pinko (as in red).

From the article-first lineStewart Rhodes does not seem like an extremist...

I love the way it starts out. He does not seem like an extremist! Might as well have added, "Experts wonder if he has stopped beating his wife yet."

The finest point on this article is the title, IMO. Newsweek knows that many readers scan titles and do not necessarily read an article. Unvarnished hit piece.

47 posted on 04/19/2010 4:54:22 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SmokingJoe

If I recall correctly, Evan Thomas’s grandfather helped found the ACLU.


48 posted on 04/19/2010 4:55:20 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: The Right Stuff
If I recall correctly, Evan Thomas’s grandfather helped found the ACLU.

From Discover the Networks:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1873

Thomas was born in April 1951 in Huntington, New York and grew up in Cold Spring Harbor, New York. His father, Evan Thomas II, was an executive with the book publishing house Scribner’s. His grandfather was Norman Thomas (1884-1968), disciple and successor to Eugene V. Debs, founder of America’s Socialist Party. Norman Thomas was the Socialist Party candidate in six presidential elections from 1928 through 1948.

49 posted on 04/19/2010 5:05:14 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: VRW Conspirator

“Comrades, give your soul to the State! Give it up! Give it up! Give it up! Tell Big Brother, you Love Him!” /sarc


50 posted on 04/19/2010 5:13:03 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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