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Dem to Obama: Push immigration or Ill tell Latino voters to stay home
The Hill ^ | 04/20/10 | Russell Berman and Bob Cusack

Posted on 04/20/2010 8:21:35 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

A congressman from the president’s home state is threatening that he will urge Latino voters to stay home this November if the Democratic Party does not make a concerted effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

Rep. Luis Gutierrez (Ill.) is arguably President Barack Obama’s biggest Democratic critic in Congress. And he’s not fond of Obama’s top advisers at the White House, either.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) member has strongly criticized the administration’s policy on deportation and questioned its commitment to far-reaching reform.

Some Democrats have felt little urgency in pursuing the controversial issue, partly because they see no risk that Hispanic voters will bolt the party for the GOP. But Gutierrez says they are missing the real political consequence of inaction.

“We can stay home,” Gutierrez said in an interview with The Hill. “We can say, ‘You know what? There is a third option: We can refuse to participate.’ ”

For Gutierrez, a former cab driver first elected to represent Chicago in 1992, the shift from close Obama ally to ornery critic has been stark. The lawmaker was one of the former Illinois senator’s earliest campaign supporters, and — as Gutierrez is quick to note — he stuck by Obama even as many Hispanic leaders rallied around Hillary Rodham Clinton in the 2008 Democratic presidential primary.

When Gutierrez talks about his old Chicago neighbor, he speaks of “anger, disillusionment, dissatisfaction” and “betrayal.” He says Obama has failed to keep his campaign commitment to immigration reform, and he decries what he calls an “enforcement-only” policy in which the administration has deported more undocumented immigrants than in the final year of the George W. Bush administration.

Gutierrez says Latinos have lost patience with Obama, and he predicts an “escalation” of activism aimed at forcing immigration reform to the fore of the party agenda.

“We’re going to make it uncomfortable for the Democratic Party,” Gutierrez said, adding that immigration advocates would step up the pressure by drawing lessons from the movements for civil rights and women’s suffrage. “There’ll probably be civil disobedience. There will probably be a number of different actions. What we have to do is we have to break through this wall of silence, because we’re invisible.”

Gutierrez is not alone. Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), a CHC member who serves in the Democratic leadership, said earlier this month that Latinos view the president with “suspicion” for failing to meet expectations.

Firing salvos is nothing new for Gutierrez, a lawmaker known for his singular and strident advocacy of the immigration cause. In 2008, he compared Border Patrol agents to the “Gestapo.” More recently, he made a high-profile threat to vote against the healthcare overhaul at its most critical stage.

Few in Washington believed he would vote no, but Gutierrez managed to wrangle a White House meeting and a public nudge from Obama in support of the comprehensive immigration blueprint being developed by Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

“Would we have liked him to have done more? Yes,” Gutierrez said, acknowledging that Obama’s statement reiterating his support for comprehensive immigration reform “wasn’t the most enthusiastic press release.”

“It’s incremental,” he said. “Before you run, you walk.”

Among his grievances with Obama is the president’s shift in rhetoric. When Obama campaigned, Gutierrez said, he used the phrase “undocumented workers.” When he addressed Congress on healthcare last September, the president referred to “illegal immigrants” in insisting that they would not be covered under the administration’s plan.

“You went from a humanizing definition of the community to a criminalizing definition of the community,” Gutierrez said.

The final straw for immigration advocates came in January, the outspoken legislator said, when Obama barely mentioned the issue in his State of the Union address.

“He said it with so little enthusiasm, and so little commitment, that they didn’t believe him,” Gutierrez said, drawing a direct line between that speech and a large rally of immigration advocates in Washington last month that happened to coincide with the final House vote on healthcare.

“If you only understood how devastating it was to our sense of hope and our sense of commitment of this president,” he said.

Gutierrez, who has not faced a serious electoral challenge since his first term, said he doesn’t lambaste the administration because he likes to.

“It’s very hard. I don’t want you to think that it’s easy,” he said. “I don’t want to pile on. It’s just he’s got to get this done.”

Gutierrez noted that Obama initially promised on the campaign trail that he would pursue immigration reform in 2009, then backtracked. And he vows he will hold the president accountable.

He said, “I meet women who are being raped by their employers. I meet children who the government has come early in the morning and taken their dads. I meet someone dying from cancer, an American citizen, who says … ‘Luis, can I die knowing that the mother of my children is going to raise [them]?’ I can’t give him that, because there’s nothing in the law.”

Despite his criticism of Obama, Gutierrez said he is more optimistic about the chances for progress on immigration.

The president transformed from “Professor Barack Obama” to “Lyndon Johnson Barack Obama” during the healthcare debate, he said.

Gutierrez noted a number of positive gestures from the White House, including an invitation for him to attend a bill-signing for a jobs measure that, he said, “I had nothing to do with.”

“I don’t think I even co-sponsored it. Why did they invite me?” Gutierrez wondered, before answering his own question. “After he signed the bill, [Obama] came up to me, he said, ‘Hey Luis, I appreciate your support. We’re going to work on comprehensive immigration reform.’ ”

Gutierrez also pointed to recent comments by Michelle Obama extolling the contributions of immigrants in the U.S. The first lady on Sunday said immigration reform was “still on the top” of the Obama agenda.

When it comes to a legislative and political path to enacting immigration reform in an election year, Gutierrez is less specific. He grudgingly accepts the consensus opinion that the legislation must start in the Senate, but he makes sure to point out that even there, immigration gets short shrift.

“Every other basic fundamental issue we start in the House,” he said.

The broader journey for a bill that will create a path to citizenship for the nation’s 12 million undocumented immigrants has been years in the making.

Gutierrez was a lead co-sponsor, along with Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), of the sweeping bill that passed the Senate in 2006 before stalling amid a conservative revolt in 2007. He nearly quit the House after the effort failed in 2007, but he changed his mind and decided to stay and pursue what has become the cause of his career.

“This has kept me in Congress,” the 56-year-old lawmaker said.

The House Democrat is not shy in blasting Obama’s closest advisers. Asserting that he is not culpable for what the administration does or does not do, Gutierrez said, “I’m not at the White House. Rahm [Emanuel] is there. [David] Axelrod’s there. And I don’t know that they’re giving him the best advice.”

Gutierrez scoffs when it is pointed out that Obama nominated the first Latina to the Supreme Court and pushed for immigration reform-friendly provisions in the 2009 children’s healthcare insurance law.

“We’re supposed to applaud because they did the right thing? Because they finally acted as Democrats? So big deal. What did they do that was so extraordinary? Oh, a Latina’s on the Supreme Court? About time!”

The White House did not comment for this article.

Gutierrez’s allies in Congress say the congressman’s outbursts have a purpose.

“There’s a difference between being an enemy and a forceful advocate,” Rep. Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.) said, referring to Gutierrez’s criticism of Obama.

Part of his role as a leader on immigration, Clarke said, was to make sure there’s a spotlight on the issue.

“He’s a pretty smart pol,” said Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.), a leader on immigration in the Irish-American community. Crowley said Gutierrez’s credibility stems from his ability to build unlikely coalitions on immigration and because he is well-liked in the Democratic Caucus.

As for Obama, lawmakers are quick to note a relationship between the two men that goes back years. “Luis is very strategic and he’s very smart, and so is the president,” Rep. Mike Honda (D-Calif.) said.

Gutierrez, Honda said, “holds no animosity. The heat is about the issue. It’s not about personalities.”


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1 posted on 04/20/2010 8:21:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Dem to Obama: Push immigration or I’ll tell Latino voters to stay home

And to think the republicans could have had 'em...

2 posted on 04/20/2010 8:22:24 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (John Paulson is the new Michael Milken?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

This is exactly what conservatives should do. Any candidate you either support our conservative views or we just won’t vote.


3 posted on 04/20/2010 8:23:33 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Sounds like blackmail to me.

Oooops, is that racist?

4 posted on 04/20/2010 8:23:59 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

lOL he is a bull shit artist.


5 posted on 04/20/2010 8:24:06 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The few legal latinos I have spoken with are totally against amnesty. There IS a path to citizenship, however the illegals don’t want to go through the trouble. They want it NOW.


6 posted on 04/20/2010 8:25:19 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: surfer
This is exactly what conservatives should do. Any candidate you either support our conservative views or we just won’t vote.

Sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote because the alternative is just so bad. What you suggest is part of the reason we now have Obama.

7 posted on 04/20/2010 8:26:25 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Puppage

“They want it NOW.”
They’re fitting in well already with many Americans:)


8 posted on 04/20/2010 8:26:38 AM PDT by ebersole
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Were the illegal immigrants to really “stay home,” poor Luis would have no base of support in America for his traitorous activities.


9 posted on 04/20/2010 8:26:40 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Puppage
Either you push a bill to allow illegals to vote, or I'll make sure illegals don't vote.

Yeah, makes sense to me/sarc

10 posted on 04/20/2010 8:26:58 AM PDT by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Nice to see trouble in my enemy’s tent!


11 posted on 04/20/2010 8:27:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“The Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC)”

...any word from the Congressional White Caucus (CWC)? What’s truly funny is how these ass clowns can dictate to their “peeps” when to vote and when not to. Which makes the voters bigger ass clowns than their “rep”.


12 posted on 04/20/2010 8:27:42 AM PDT by albie
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I am sick to death of illegal immigrants demanding ‘rights’ in this country! Go back to where you came from if you do not like it here!


13 posted on 04/20/2010 8:28:08 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discover" Sarah Palin)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Will all the Latino voters please leave the voting area and go to Walmart. Dear leader said so.


14 posted on 04/20/2010 8:29:09 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Drill baby, drill!)
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To: jmaroneps37; Liz
Nice to see trouble in my enemy’s tent!

Ain't it, though...? ;)

(Belated PING to Liz, who's also gonna want to see this.)

15 posted on 04/20/2010 8:29:11 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Does he mean home, home or just home? If he means home, home, illegal immigration problem solved.


16 posted on 04/20/2010 8:30:16 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

In exchange for his vote on Obamacare. The promise of payback is not coming quick enough. I’m sure Guttie was promised immigration before this summer was over.


17 posted on 04/20/2010 8:32:46 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: green iguana

Bush and the GOP are the reason we have Obama now.


18 posted on 04/20/2010 8:33:03 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

How about you don’t push “immigration reform” and tell them to stay home. And while you’re at it, tell the ones already here to go back home.... and take the kenyan with you.


19 posted on 04/20/2010 8:34:17 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It should read: “Push Immigration Reform or I’ll Tell Mexican Citizens to Stay Home”.


20 posted on 04/20/2010 8:37:10 AM PDT by phxdan
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Bribery?????? Wouldn’t this be the same as saying.....”I won’t pay you off if you don’t do this.”?


21 posted on 04/20/2010 8:39:12 AM PDT by RC2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.
Simon Cameron
US financier & politician (1799 - 1889)

So either 0 is not an honest Chicago politician
or Luis is a silly puta for trusting him.
I’m thinking both.


22 posted on 04/20/2010 8:40:45 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's 57 militias: armed and dangerous)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Sounds like blackmail to me. Oooops, is that racist?

Whatever it is, we will need popcorn.

23 posted on 04/20/2010 8:45:43 AM PDT by sportutegrl (I don't know where I'ma gonna go when the volcano blow.)
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To: Puppage
The few legal latinos I have spoken with are totally against amnesty.

That's because they busted their tail to get here legally and it is just wrong to jump the line. I've heard the same from Indians and Africans. One African told me Americans are crazy to tolerate demonstrations by illegals. In any other nation, they would have been thrown in jail, including Mexico.

Someone still needs to corner/force these "leaders" to answer the question of why Mexico can't provide jobs/welfare for their own people, when Mexico is a rich nation?

24 posted on 04/20/2010 8:46:10 AM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: ebersole
“They want it NOW.”

The war in Afghanistan is heating up now and we may need a draft to get enough cannon fodder. And we can't draft illegals so we need them to become legal so they are eligible for the draft.

Infantry: FOLLOW ME!

25 posted on 04/20/2010 8:46:17 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
These people are absolute criminals.

Why are legal immigrants who wait for years and OBEY the law being treated worse than criminals? This is anarchy.
26 posted on 04/20/2010 8:46:50 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
A congressman from the president’s home state is threatening that he will urge Latino voters to stay home this November if the Democratic Party does not make a concerted effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

Thereby giving Obama political cover for what he would have done anyway.

27 posted on 04/20/2010 8:48:31 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: the invisib1e hand
And to think the republicans could have had 'em...

No way.Victimhood is PC.Victimhood is profitable.Imagine...a Party that demands that US Immigration/Residency/Citizenship laws be ignored.Yes,the Republican Party might appeal to the handful of fully legal and "legitimate" Hispanic voters (legitimate meaning ones who weren't dropped in some border town by a mother who,an hour before,was swimming across the Rio Grande) but nobody else.

28 posted on 04/20/2010 8:49:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

they were up for grabs. they could have been appealed to with reason. the republicans got all hot and bothered about “ ‘leeguls” and gave them to the dems to exploit.


29 posted on 04/20/2010 8:51:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (John Paulson is the new Michael Milken?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
he will urge Latino voters to stay home this November

Bull S***. I'll believe it when I see it. Obama will bring him to the White House for breakfast, serve him some Huevos Rancheros and some Huevos con Chorizo and schmooze him and he'll fall down and lick Obama's shoes and fall right into line

30 posted on 04/20/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
It is all coming unglued for the Dems.

They cannot continue to spin all of their various and disparate interest groups. All are demanding payback before the next election cycle, and that is something Barry can't possibly deliver. Will be fun to watch him try though.

31 posted on 04/20/2010 8:55:25 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gutierrez was a lead co-sponsor, along with Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), of the sweeping bill that passed the Senate in 2006 before stalling amid a conservative revolt in 2007......

A conservative revolt?.....Ain’t seen nothing yet!!!


32 posted on 04/20/2010 8:56:41 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
If all the current legal welfare recipients knew that their welfare benefits will decrease once 30 million illegals become legal and get on the welfare train, then they'd be against this amnesty. Maybe someone should tell them... ;-)
33 posted on 04/20/2010 8:56:56 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Will be fun to watch him try though.

Since whatever it is he's going to try to deliver is going to come out of my hide I'm not sure 'fun' is the word I'd pick.

34 posted on 04/20/2010 8:57:25 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; All

Let’s see, we are 6 1/2 months away from Election Day. Does anyone think this is enough time for them to push through Amnesty (code word: Immigration Reform).

If they do push it through, Republicans may never again be in the Majority in Congress or occupy the White House.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 8:58:21 AM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Nice. One Chicago street punk shaking down another.


36 posted on 04/20/2010 8:58:56 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: the invisib1e hand

“they were up for grabs”

Logical Fallacy
Informal
`Red Herring’:

“Wishful Thinking”
Types: •Appeal to Consequences •Emotional Appeal
Form: I want P to be true.
.........Therefore, P is true.


37 posted on 04/20/2010 8:59:50 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's 57 militias: armed and dangerous)
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To: Puppage
The few legal latinos I have spoken with are totally against amnesty.

Too bad we can't hear their voices as much as we do the illegal aliens.

38 posted on 04/20/2010 8:59:59 AM PDT by beachn4fun (“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.” (Patton))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yet many whites and the Tea Party run around in circles over ‘racism’.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 9:00:11 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


40 posted on 04/20/2010 9:01:38 AM PDT by HiJinx (Angels are found where you least expect them; let them comfort you.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
““We can stay home,” Gutierrez said in an interview with The Hill. “We can say, ‘You know what? There is a third option: We can refuse to participate.’ ” “

If you could get them to ‘stay home’ there would be no reason for immigration reform. They would be in Mexico mowing their own damn lawn, you asshat!

41 posted on 04/20/2010 9:02:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Thanks for the headsup.

Looks like Mexico is itching to start reconquista.....they apparently ordered Gutierrez to tighten the Dem leash. The Obamatons are willing dupes of Third World governments----dutifully reciting latino agit-prop. Obama kneels in obeisance to La Raza, and amnesty supporters on Capitol Hill...... to suckup illegal votes that will hopefully climax in Nov wins.

Ohaha sent Michele Ohaha to ol' Mehico the other day, to get her marching orders from Calderone. She was sucking up bigtime.....so that Ohaha can nail illegal votes for desperate Dems. I just hope the First Lady's got what it takes.......and that she brought enough kneepads to perform multiple Mexican BJs, ole. (/snix)

Obama's treacherous plan to award US citizenship to illegals is a con game. Illegals w/ amnesty are dual citizens who swear allegiance to their home countries. THEY INTEND TO RETURN THERE----AFTER THEY DRAIN THE US TREASURY.

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WHY DO OHAHA AND THE DIMS SUPPORT AMNESTY? B/c druglords are South American Marxists. Dems figure they can spread Marxism quickly throughout the US by amnestying Marxists (NOTE: druglords are bringing drugs and more illegal voters through VZ and Cuba into the US).

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REFERENCE Over and above the millions who violate our borders, 1.5 million legal foreign workers come to the US each year, as a matter of course.

But this number isn’t high enough for Dem Cong Gutierrez and his 92 co-sponsors. Their Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill includes a provision called “recapture” that will add up all the supposedly “unused” work visas since 1992 and issue them immediately.

This is a complete fraud, as all unused work visas are rolled over to the family reunification category the next year as it is.

Gutierrez' Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill will create 100,000 visas from countries that send the most illegal immigrants every year. According to the State Department, this will mean 550,000 new foreign workers.

AND GET THIS Mexico is the staging area for Third World and other illegals preparing to violate our borders. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill rewards Mexico b/c they calculatedly promote illegal immigration.

Gutierrez' bill will make it much easier for more illegal aliens to break in. Under the Bill, to prove they have jobs and were in the country BEFORE Congress passed amnesty, illegals are allowed to use stolen ID's, fake green cards, and fraudulent SS numbers....... without fear of prosecution.

Mexico facilitates the profitable staging area for global illegals to cross the border. Contrary to Obama’s claim that CIR bill will increase border security, it does just the opposite.........

<> it guts successful enforcement measures,

<> limits raids on illegal immigrants,

<> prohibits use of troops on the border,

<> replaces E-Verify used to ensure employers hire legal American workers,

<> overturns all state and local US laws that crackdown on illegal immigration,

<> abolishes 287(g) that allows local L/E and federal authorities to apprehend criminal illegals.

Gutierrez makes Van Jones look like a patriot.

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As FReeper Tammy8 insightfully posted: "Reid and the Dims had a rally for amnesty on the very same day as the services for Rob Krentz. Has Obama made a statement about the Krentz murder? Has he made a statement about the cartel war causing issues in Ft Hancock, TX? Has Obama made a statement about the various home invasions both on and away from the border by illegals? "

Sickening. Dems could care less. Sucking up to non-citizens is more important than American lives. Illegals are another voting bloc they grab onto to save their sorry elected behinds. I agree w/ Tancredo: DHS' Napolitano should resign in the wake of Rob Krentz' murder.

42 posted on 04/20/2010 9:03:47 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Take your ball and go home Luis.


43 posted on 04/20/2010 9:04:32 AM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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To: leapfrog0202
illegal immigrants demanding ‘rights’ in this country!

First, I'm with you. Second, though, it's "illegal aliens" and third, the Bill of Rights is ONLY for legal citizens. The only right illegals have is to go to jail and stay there.

44 posted on 04/20/2010 9:05:27 AM PDT by beachn4fun (“No good decision was ever made in a swivel chair.” (Patton))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

This can best be described as: From one thug to another...


45 posted on 04/20/2010 9:06:11 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
A map of Gutierrez's district. Does this gerrymandering make any sense except that it has been done along racial lines?


46 posted on 04/20/2010 9:09:24 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Screw “stay home”.

How about “go home”.

To your country of birth that is.

47 posted on 04/20/2010 9:09:29 AM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Beagle8U; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"We can stay home (if we can't bludgeon Ohaha into doing what we demand),” Gutierrez said in an interview with The Hill.

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Things endemic to the Third World----serfdom, slavery, ruling elites, armed street patrols, mob rule, bribery as a way of life----do not fly here.

The more rights these people get, the more they show their ignorance, and their inability to circumnavigate the mechanics of a free government. Gutierrez and his crowd better wake-up---they are going to have a problem inflicting Third World savagery on America.

Ohaha is smoking something illegal if he thinks Americans will accept Third World mob rule on his say-so.

48 posted on 04/20/2010 9:14:41 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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AMNESTY AND THE LOSING NEW JERSEY ELECTION Ohaha's carefully laid plans----for installing a permanent Dem Majority of amnestied illegals----might look like this. Ohaha was heavly invested in the NJ gubernatorial race---one of only two statewide 2009 races w/ VA.

OBAMA WAS DESPERATE FOR NJ's CORZINE TO WIN W/ ILLEGAL VOTES---OHAHA KEPT SAYING CORZINE WAS HIS "PARTNER" Obama put the power of the WH machine behind NJ's Corzine.

The NY Times reported:
(a) every TV ad Corzine put on the air was being screened by Obama's WH team.
(b) Corzine's aides gave the WH daily briefings.
(c) Obama’s pollsters took over for Corzine’s polling team, and,
(d) White House operatives were on the ground for internal strategy sessions,
(e) White House operatives were orchestrating obscure pep rallies with Latinos (kept secret from voters),
(f) Corzine had a "Peruvian Pac" endorsing him.
(g) Ohaha campaigned in the state three times, Biden was there twice. Ohaha TV ads ran relentlessly. BR> (h) Corzine promised to give illegals ‘driving credentials’ & in-state tuition.
(i) Corzine sucked up to illegal immigrants and REFUSED to enforce current immigration laws
(j)Corzine formed a Blue Ribbon committee of hypenates using tax dollars to mine votes for Corzine.
(k)Also sucking up to illegals was Sen Robert Menendez, a Corzine campaigner.

OTHER SALIENT POINTS

>> Incumbent Dem Jon Corzine (the wealthy loser) outspent the Repub winner Chris Chirstie about 4-1.
>> New Jersey has a huge Democratic registration.
>> Corzine bragged he had 20,000 paid union helpers on the ground election day to get out the vote.
>> There was a third party candidate siphoning off Republican votes.
>> Corzine had the power of incumbency.
>> Corzine had the power of a crooked Democrat Machine cooking the vote.
>> Ohaha hid $17.5 BILLION stimlulus in New Jersey.....for Corzine's reelection campaign.

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NEW JERSEY IS IDENTITY FRAUD CENTRAL FOR LATINOS
Two Texans busted in bogus ID operation in NJ

NORTH BERGEN, NJ -- July 21, 2006 -- Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said. The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the US, passports and resident alien cards, said state police. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn't identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately. The Texas brothers consented to a search.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards.

AND THIS The Republican Lieutenat Governor candidate, former County Sheriff Kim Guadagno, had applied for the federal 287(g) program, which would seek to question every inmate coming to the County jail about his or her immigration status, regardless of the offense for which they are incarcerated. Sheriff Guadagno had sought to ensure that "criminals" are not unduly released for fear of further harm to the community. The 287(g) program would provide the sheriff with personnel and tools to punish individuals being held at the County jail, even if they do not meet the criteria set forth by Corzine's sucking up to illegals. Illegals lacerated Sheriff Guadagno for political pandering and for scouting incidents of indictable offenses such as driving under the influence by undocumented immigrants.

Pulling out all the stops for Corzine made Ohaha a VERY good target for those disgusted with Ohaha’s policies. The New Jersey race was the shape of things to come for dumbo Dems. The Ovomitons know they are headed into a Republican tsunami.........in 2010-12.

49 posted on 04/20/2010 9:21:05 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The Atzland obscenity plays a major roll in the socialist debasement of America, and Obamao knows it. He probably hates Aztec descendants more than La Raza kooks hate white people, but the Aztec myth fits well in the anti American scheme of things. Anyone with any sense, of any racial/cultural background can look at Mexico, and know that no one benefits from allowing America to become like that.


50 posted on 04/20/2010 9:25:31 AM PDT by pallis
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