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In Never-Before-Aired Tapes, McVeigh Tells Families: 'Get Over It'
http://news.yahoo.com/ ^ | April 20, 2010 | Brett Michael Dykes

Posted on 04/20/2010 1:14:29 PM PDT by Biggirl

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To: Palladin
Anybody else see a theme going on here in the MSM? Following marching orders of the Obama/Clinton propaganda machine to blame all the evils of the present day on white male terrorists?

Why dredge all this up now?

Easy. They want cover for ramming through S3801 before the people figure out what it's actually about: detaining anti-government activists indefinitely without charge or trial.

51 posted on 04/20/2010 1:38:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: All

Yet the Leftist media does its best to make us forget 911 and NEVER a mention of the children that were murdered that day....


52 posted on 04/20/2010 1:38:26 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: throwback

They used to trumpet the anniversary of the Kent State shooting too.

in 2012 it’ll be the 40th anniversary of the Weather Underground bombing of the Pentagon. That anniversary will be missed by the MSM. Same with the Khobar Towers and USS Cole bombing anniversaries.


53 posted on 04/20/2010 1:39:21 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: BootsOfEscaping
Jayna Davis
54 posted on 04/20/2010 1:40:12 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Biggirl

Timothy McVeigh is a jerk. Big surprise.


55 posted on 04/20/2010 1:40:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Biggirl

Tapes of unaired interviews? Locked safely away at Democrat Party Headquarters all these years, under a pane of glass that reads “Break in Case of Emergency”, no doubt...


56 posted on 04/20/2010 1:41:27 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Biggirl

That’s what Bubba told Juanita...


57 posted on 04/20/2010 1:43:32 PM PDT by tips up
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To: soycd
In previously non-existent tapes...

"Is it Bull**** or Not?!" < /Amazon Women On The Moon >

58 posted on 04/20/2010 1:43:54 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: ducks1944
Terry Nichols is still alive along with others who gave plea bargain testimony. If they were actually interested in prosecuting everyone, we would also know those other names as "household names" like we do Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh. I have no doubt as to their guilt. I do believe that the case was kept clean and simple so as to ensure quick resolution.

Why don't they talk to Terry Nichols rather than going ahead and manufacturing footage of Timothy McVeigh?

This would be like showing Larry Buchanan's The Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald as "file footage".

59 posted on 04/20/2010 1:47:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: ducks1944

McVeigh speeded up the process himself, IIRC.


60 posted on 04/20/2010 1:48:04 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Dallas59

This does not surprise me, as I had said, the left is GETTING SCARED of us, so they have to bring out stuff that is condemming.


61 posted on 04/20/2010 1:48:31 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: a fool in paradise
ROR!

I love that movie!

62 posted on 04/20/2010 1:48:49 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: Paladin2

The OKC Attack had nothing to do with Waco.


63 posted on 04/20/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Maverick68
and NEVER a mention of the children that were murdered that day....

And never a single dead body televised or photographed for an American publication.

3,000 dead people, not one body pictured. Makes it easier to forget what 3,000 people would look like.

The media says it is out of respect. A respect they never showed the OKC families. A respect they do not show US troops. A respect they do not show Palestinians. I say it is because the media REFUSES to share the horrors of that day.

64 posted on 04/20/2010 1:49:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: trumandogz

Just a coincidence then?


65 posted on 04/20/2010 1:50:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: trumandogz

Well in fact it did as revenge for Waco and Ruby Ridge


66 posted on 04/20/2010 1:50:49 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Maverick68

And we don’t need CGI recreations of the bodies hitting pavement in NYC. I imagine a PMSNBC version would show tea party folks flying the planes into buildings.


67 posted on 04/20/2010 1:51:01 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: a fool in paradise
McVey claiming Waco and Ruby Ridge caused him to bomb OKC is as valid as the 9/11 terrorists claiming that US actions in the Middle East caused them to attack the WTC.
68 posted on 04/20/2010 1:53:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: JPG
He committed a heinous crime and paid for it with his life. End of story.

Was Mike Farrell there to protest agaist capital punishment?

69 posted on 04/20/2010 1:53:54 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: TigerBait; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik
Exactly. Iraqi was reported by local news to have stayed in the truck and lit the fuse. Witnesses saw a number of Arabs leaving the scene. ATF didn’t show up for work that day.

Clinton administration knew the right would be blamed. He came out blaming Rush. They used the Arabs to stigmatize the right and MSM played along with it.

What incident are they working on now? Fall elections are coming up.
What person or group will be the patsy this time?

OBAMA WILL ATTEMPT FALSE-FLAG PROVOCATION BEFORE NOVEMBER

70 posted on 04/20/2010 1:54:09 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: trumandogz

What DID cause the 9/11 terrorists to attack the US?


71 posted on 04/20/2010 1:55:28 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: jessduntno

It was a very good program. Factual and pretty much down the middle. I think that the level of discourse on the fringes of both sides has gone over the top. (And BTW, I don’t consider the tea parties to be the fringe.) Both sides are guilty of ratcheting up the nasty nature of political discourse and there are those who aren’t able to control their conduct and who could do something stupid, although unlikely on the scale of McVeigh stupid. But we saw it recently in New Orleans with the beatdown of Jindal’s aide and her boyfriend. I think that the responsible leaders on both sides need to remind the whackos in their respective camps to remember that free speech is one thing, but Civil War II or TEOTWAWKI is not want anyone should want or pursue. The Constitution works. Vote ‘em out, convince others to do so. And persuasive argument isn’t yelling explitives in someone’s face, smearing blood on the Secy of State as she prepares to testify before Congress, or planning on assassinating cops like the yahoos in Michigan.


72 posted on 04/20/2010 1:55:28 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: trumandogz

I would go as far and say I wonder if the Feds(FBI and ATF) were involved directly or indirectly some way or another in OKC bombing.


73 posted on 04/20/2010 1:55:46 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: trumandogz

The OKC building held evidence from the Waco case. It housed agents too.

Why did he select that target and that date?

Tell us.


74 posted on 04/20/2010 1:56:31 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: dpetty121263

“Well in fact it did as revenge for Waco and Ruby Ridge”

So 9/11 was “revenge” for the US military being in Saudi Arabia?


75 posted on 04/20/2010 1:56:34 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Paladin2

McVeigh’s defense attorney said the reason he choose the Murrah BLDG, was because that was home of the ATF advance team at Waco.

Not that it’s justification, but if true, it makes a connection.


76 posted on 04/20/2010 1:57:27 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: trumandogz

Well it was two years to the day I believe...


77 posted on 04/20/2010 1:57:39 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263
Just like the Feds were involved in the 9/11 Attacks. /sarcasm.
78 posted on 04/20/2010 1:59:04 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Also 3 of ATF agents killed in Waco had some link to Bill Clinton if memory serves me.


79 posted on 04/20/2010 2:00:00 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; ntnychik; All
Yes, I believe Obama will instigate a big crisis before November.

And Clinton is going to be SO sorry he ever opened his mouth again!!

80 posted on 04/20/2010 2:02:18 PM PDT by potlatch (~~"Where secrecy or mystery begins, vice or roguery is not far off. "~~)
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To: dpetty121263
McVey was terrorist scum, no different than the 9/11 terrorists.
81 posted on 04/20/2010 2:02:30 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Maverick68

They started clamping down on that right away. No Flags, no “Hate”, no pictures, no Patriotism.


82 posted on 04/20/2010 2:02:41 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: rwfromkansas

...and there was a third swarthy guy that they were looking for, right? Never found...


83 posted on 04/20/2010 2:03:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: trumandogz

Or Bill Ayers.


84 posted on 04/20/2010 2:05:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (We've gone from phony soldiers to phony conservative protesters. Nothing about liberalism is genuine)
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To: DryFly

“I think that the level of discourse on the fringes of both sides has gone over the top.”

I can’t imagine the instrument that coud measure the staggering amount of disbelief I have for what you just wrote. I think I’ll pass on the response. It would definitely be over the top.


85 posted on 04/20/2010 2:07:01 PM PDT by jessduntno (I've never been a member of the Democrat Party. I stepped in it once, but scraped it off.)
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To: Never on my watch
Allegedly, there were bomb making manuals in Yousef’s possession that detailed a nearly exact replica of the OKC bomb. And that Nichols and Yosef crossed the same paths in the Philippines so often sure sets out a lot of red flags.
86 posted on 04/20/2010 2:07:54 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: a fool in paradise

I was at work about 4 blocks away in a small one-story factory bldg. (The Red Cross set up their station right next door to my bldg. in the following days...I was close.)
The FBI was walking around right after the bomb went off looking for anyone who had witnessed a P/U truck with a few MEs inside.
One lady I work with was late to work that day and *did* see a ME guy running down the block just around the corner as the bomb went off. She gave his description to the FBI. Nothing else was mentioned about this or any other MEs after a day or two...nothing.


87 posted on 04/20/2010 2:12:49 PM PDT by babyfreep
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To: dpetty121263

And what does that have to do with the terrorist attack in OKC?


88 posted on 04/20/2010 2:16:32 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, you could include Bill Ayers and Eric Rudolf.


89 posted on 04/20/2010 2:18:55 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: TexansReadyAimFire

“McVeigh avenged the blood of the fallen Branch Davidians with the blood of 168 Federal employees.”

No, he was just a POS Terrorist and justification of his actions is sick.


91 posted on 04/20/2010 2:33:35 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: babyfreep

There was an APB for brown pick-up truck driven by a middle eastern man with 2 other ME men heading north on I-35 shortly after blast. I had my scanner on and heard it myself.


92 posted on 04/20/2010 2:35:43 PM PDT by Never on my watch (A Militia is just a community organization)
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To: Badeye

The template that is being played by Clinton and his DNC media, i.e. Madcow and LSDNBC, is that people like Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh are working unstable, hatefilled teaparty people into a terroistic frenzy. This whole concept is silly and preposterous on its face.

The OKC template that McVeigh was a Christian, hate filled white person who had also been whipped into a frenzy by conservative radio is also pathetically ridiculous.

Dirty politics as increasingly played by the left is about to get a much needed lesson come November.


93 posted on 04/20/2010 2:44:06 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Biggirl

I watched that show. He was one very disturbed individual. And of course MSNBC couldn’t resist comparing him to tea partiers.


94 posted on 04/20/2010 3:02:06 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: vladimir998

How come it takes DECADES to execute other murderers, but McVeigh was convicted and executed within 5 years? I’ve never heard of such a quick sentennce being carried out at anytime. BTW, I think it is interesting that McVeigh was an atheist.


95 posted on 04/20/2010 3:05:15 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Biggirl
Well, well, isn't this timing convenient.....

NBC releases these tapes the same week that Clinton ties the violence of Oklahoma city to the TEA parties.

Nope, no lefty bias at that network, they would never do anything but report news.

96 posted on 04/20/2010 3:09:23 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

This is the old MSM’s effort to discredit the tea party movement.


97 posted on 04/20/2010 3:11:18 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Biggirl
It's pretty despicable that the majority of our media is following along with the effort to discredit the movement

Disgusting is a good adjective to apply as well.

98 posted on 04/20/2010 3:16:36 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: trumandogz

They both happened in the US.


99 posted on 04/20/2010 3:27:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

On the same day - just like the Al Qeida tendency to select anniversaries for “actions”


100 posted on 04/20/2010 3:39:23 PM PDT by Paladin2
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