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Salinas Police: Victim falls for gold bar scam (California)
The Californian ^ | April 20, 2010 | RACHEL ZENTZ

Posted on 04/20/2010 2:32:37 PM PDT by jiggyboy

A 50-year-old woman was the victim of a gold bar scam at Kmart on North Davis Road, according to the Salinas Police Department.

The victim was approached by a Spanish speaking woman in her 40s who struck up a conversation with her, police said.

The suspect said she needed help because a car had hit her uncle and he needed money, police said.

She went on to say she had found some gold bars to sell at which point a Spanish speak male accomplice walked up and entered the conversation, police said.

The female suspect said she had the bars appraised for well over $10,000 but she would sell her and the man a gold bar for $9,000 each, police said.

The victim drove the suspects to her home and picked up $9,000 cash, police said.

She then drove the man to Wells Fargo on South Main where he as seen possibly going inside and returning later with cash, police said.

The victim and man handed the money to the female suspect, received their bars and then the victim dropped the suspects off at Wal-Mart, police said.

When the victim took the to be appraised she found out it was fake, police said.

Anyone with information related to the crime or who may have been a witness is asked to contact the Salinas Police Department Detective Division at 831-758-7226.

If you would like to remain anonymous, you can call the Salinas Police Department Anonymous Tip Line at 831- 775-4222, or the We-Tip Line at 1-800-78-CRIME.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: gold
It is WAY too early in the cycle for this to be happening. Obviously not a certified goldbug.

Note that "Spanish speaking" as the descriptor says to me that it's an illegal-on-illegal ("Spanish speaking") scam here. Salinas is about 70 miles south of San Jose and is about 95% American-Mexican (i.e. Mexicans who happen to live in America).

1 posted on 04/20/2010 2:32:37 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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2 posted on 04/20/2010 2:33:40 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
Ok, it was a good scam because these perps found the stupidest person around. The woman who got taken deserved it.
3 posted on 04/20/2010 2:34:49 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: jiggyboy

I need $10,000 and I need more lemon pledge.


4 posted on 04/20/2010 2:36:30 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Petronski; Constitution Day

BAHOG LEADER,
STANDING BY

5 posted on 04/20/2010 2:37:01 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: DManA

LOL took me a little while


6 posted on 04/20/2010 2:37:54 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

That is a new level of stupid.

Who buys gold bars in a Wal-Mart parking lot? If the “gold”-peddler needed money ... why would she come to you in a WM parking lot for $9K rather than going to the actual buyer for $10K?

Sometimes, victims get what they deserve.

SnakeDoc


7 posted on 04/20/2010 2:38:25 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: svcw
Ok, it was a good scam because these perps found the stupidest person around. ...

My young son has a box of crayons and I noticed that one of them was GOLD! I'd gladly sell this one for $50 bucks if she wants it too.

8 posted on 04/20/2010 2:39:31 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: jiggyboy

How can anybody be that stupid?


9 posted on 04/20/2010 2:40:01 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Arrogant, stupid and treasonous is no way to go through life, Barack.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Are you telling me you never sold gold bars in a wal-Mart parking lot?


10 posted on 04/20/2010 2:40:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DManA

I’ve been seriously thinking about sending some lemon Pledge to Sonia Sotomayor.


11 posted on 04/20/2010 2:41:14 PM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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To: jiggyboy
Note that "Spanish speaking" as the descriptor says to me that it's an illegal-on-illegal ("Spanish speaking") scam here.

Did you ever see "The Flim-Flam Man" starring George C. Scott?

Chances are good that the 'spanish speaking man' was in on the scam in order to make the mark feel more comfortable about parting with $9000.

12 posted on 04/20/2010 2:41:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: nickcarraway

I prefer Target for precious metal sales. Better clientele.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 04/20/2010 2:42:02 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: jiggyboy
"The victim drove the suspects to her home and picked up $9,000 cash, police said."

Yeah....I have about 9K just sitting in my sock drawer right now....


14 posted on 04/20/2010 2:42:13 PM PDT by BossLady (<----Butler Alumnus - proud of my Dawgs!!!)
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To: jiggyboy

Just buying the gold bars that taxpayers can’t afford to.


15 posted on 04/20/2010 2:44:07 PM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: jiggyboy

Fake gold is plaguing even the banks and financial houses.
Tungsten has the same density as gold and is easy to buy, so the bad guys make a tungsten brick and then coat is with real gold. You can’t tell the difference after that, unless you drill into the bar or try to cut it in half.


16 posted on 04/20/2010 2:46:21 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Socialism, socialism, we don't need no stinkin' socialism.)
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To: svcw

I cannot remember who said it, and I am probably butchering it, but, “It is immoral to allow a fool to keep his money.”


17 posted on 04/20/2010 2:46:42 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: nickcarraway

>>Are you telling me you never sold gold bars in a wal-Mart parking lot?<<

That’s why I have my white van. ;)


18 posted on 04/20/2010 2:47:23 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: jiggyboy

I’ve heard of a version of this scam called “Mexican Lottery”.


19 posted on 04/20/2010 2:48:13 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: jiggyboy

Stupid is too mild of a description for this lady.


20 posted on 04/20/2010 2:49:51 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Chances are good that the ‘spanish speaking man’ was in on the scam in order to make the mark feel more comfortable about parting with $9000.”
Absolutely. I guarantee it

MY question is. How did this illegal even have 9k to get scammed out of by another illegal?

It is really hard to have any sympathy here


21 posted on 04/20/2010 2:50:28 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: nickcarraway

sold them -—yes
bought them-—no


22 posted on 04/20/2010 2:50:30 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: BuffaloJack
Tungsten has the same density as gold and is easy to buy, so the bad guys make a tungsten brick and then coat is with real gold.

You might need that level of sophistication to fool SnakeDoc's marks over at Target, but I'd guess that the density of the "gold bar" in this case was closer to lead than tungsten, and possibly had just a little whiff of battery acid and propane too.

23 posted on 04/20/2010 2:50:44 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BossLady

“I have about 9K just sitting in my sock drawer right now...”

I have boxes of 7.62 ammo in my sock drawer. The socks are under the bed. :-)


24 posted on 04/20/2010 2:52:13 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The Spanish speaking man is listed as an accomplice.


25 posted on 04/20/2010 2:52:31 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: jiggyboy
When the victim took the to be appraised she found out it was fake, police said.

I always have my parking lot gold purchases appraised before I buy it.

26 posted on 04/20/2010 2:53:10 PM PDT by csvset
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To: jiggyboy

The buyers should have bargained harder. I bet they could have got those fake bars for $1,000 or less.


27 posted on 04/20/2010 2:54:09 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: RobRoy; TexGuy

Very funny guys and I think Mark Twain.


28 posted on 04/20/2010 2:55:02 PM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: csvset

Ha, the guy with the bag of oranges at the traffic light charges just ten bucks!


29 posted on 04/20/2010 2:56:33 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Truth is a Weapon
The buyers should have bargained harder. I bet they could have got those fake bars for $1,000 or less.

Consumer tip of the day. In this economy, don't be afraid to haggle!

30 posted on 04/20/2010 2:58:41 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Four for $3000.

Such a deal!!!


31 posted on 04/20/2010 3:00:13 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Ah yes, "gosh, I wish I had the money to buy that gold bar, that's a real bargain..."
32 posted on 04/20/2010 3:00:29 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: sergeantdave

I have 9k.....in various calibers.


33 posted on 04/20/2010 3:00:35 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

This was actually a pretty common scam in California many years ago and it always found takers. It’s amazing...it’s come around again - in a different century with a different group of victims.


34 posted on 04/20/2010 3:01:40 PM PDT by livius
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To: RobRoy

I’m seeing W.C. Fields here and there.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/w_c_fields_2.html


35 posted on 04/20/2010 3:04:11 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: DManA
I need $10,000 and I need more lemon pledge

I need a unicorn that craps skittles

36 posted on 04/20/2010 3:05:57 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; SpinnerWebb
Chances are good that the 'spanish speaking man' was in on the scam in order to make the mark feel more comfortable about parting with $9000.

Can't slip anything past Sam Roberts ...

37 posted on 04/20/2010 3:07:31 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: RWGinger
How did this illegal even have 9k to get scammed out of by another illegal?

They're all-cash, all-underground in a way that makes a mountain hermit look like a salesman on an expense account. No bank account, no credit card, just the life savings in the sock drawer and a couple of gold bars *cough* under the bed.

38 posted on 04/20/2010 3:07:35 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: svcw

Old scam. I first saw it on an old movie with George C. Scott called “The Flim Flam Man.” That was made in the sixties or seventies, and the scam probably goes back centuries.


39 posted on 04/20/2010 3:14:51 PM PDT by richardtavor
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To: RWGinger

Where in the article does it say the victim is an illegal?


40 posted on 04/20/2010 3:15:01 PM PDT by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: brothers4thID

it doesn’t say it
It seems a safe bet


41 posted on 04/20/2010 3:18:08 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: jiggyboy

Maybe she would like to buy some Ocean front property in Ohio I have.


42 posted on 04/20/2010 3:18:45 PM PDT by bikerman (Impeachment ! Has a nice ring to it dont you think?)
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To: brothers4thID

Where in the article does it say the victim is an illegal?

Maybe the old beat up 57 Chevy in her driveway gave it away. or the fact that she keeps that much cash home.


43 posted on 04/20/2010 3:22:41 PM PDT by bikerman (Impeachment ! Has a nice ring to it dont you think?)
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To: bikerman

Just waiting for the earthquake in California???


44 posted on 04/20/2010 3:26:20 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: brothers4thID

I was the first to advance that. “Spanish speaking” and “in Salinas” = illegal.

The math:
- Population = 143,640
- “Hispanic” = 64.1% (~92073)
- “Foreign born” = 53,016

I say it’s more likely than not that if you speak Mexican as your main language in Salinas, you’re an illegal.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Salinas-California.html


45 posted on 04/20/2010 3:29:11 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

You can’t fix stupid....


46 posted on 04/20/2010 3:30:47 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: bikerman

Real estate scams are conducted at the Big Lots.


47 posted on 04/20/2010 3:31:06 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

How many variations of the pigeon drop are there?


48 posted on 04/20/2010 5:34:43 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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To: jiggyboy

Idiot. Never buy gold bars in a Walmart parking lot. Macy’s or Nordstroms I could understand but jeez...


49 posted on 04/20/2010 6:32:09 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (The bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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