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Lowden Doubles Down On Health-Care-By-Barter: 'Bring A Chicken To The Doctor' (VIDEO)
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Posted on 04/20/2010 7:29:32 PM PDT by AlanD

Sue Lowden, the front-running Republican challenger to Sen. Harry Reid, yesterday doubled down on her idea that health care could be paid for using the barter system.

Last week, when Lowden suggested "that bartering is really good," it seemed that she may have been talking about haggling prices and just had her vocab mixed up. It happens to everyone.

But yesterday, on a local news program, Lowden seemed to double down on the idea. Asked whether the statement made her seem disconnected, she shot back that it's Reid who's disconnected for not knowing "that this is already happening in our state."

"Let's change the system and talk about what the possibilities are. I'm telling you that this works. You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days, our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor. They would say I'll paint your house," she said. "[That's] what people would do to get health care with their doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people."

"I'm not backing down from that system," she added.

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What do people think? Will this help or hurt Lowden in her campagin against Reid?

How many people in Nevada have chickens? Seems ill-conceived . . Still she is a charming lady.

1 posted on 04/20/2010 7:29:32 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

Hurt. A lot. But it’s good she’s taking herself out of the running before it’s too late for Nevada Republicans to choose a competent candidate to run against Reid. This is the kind of thing that turns a frontrunner into a former frontrunner.


2 posted on 04/20/2010 7:33:41 PM PDT by counterpunch (GOP: Government's Other Party)
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To: AlanD

Unfortunately, this has been tried and failed.

The IRS will demand tax payment (in US dollars) for the value of each bartered item.


3 posted on 04/20/2010 7:34:00 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: counterpunch

Cuckoo-cuckoo-cuckoo!

Better to know it now.


4 posted on 04/20/2010 7:37:58 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

If Republicans want to not blow their chance at defeating Reid, they’d better get serious real quick and figure out that you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight, and you don’t bring a chicken to the doctor.


5 posted on 04/20/2010 7:38:36 PM PDT by counterpunch (GOP: Government's Other Party)
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To: AlanD

My wife is from a European country with socialized medicine.
Here’s how it works: Cash.

You can wait around all day and get free care. Or you can pay
cash. It’s expected you’ll pay cash.

Lot of the medical care is done by pharmacist. Medical degrees
are four year. Lot shorter life expectancy.

Get what you pay for.


6 posted on 04/20/2010 7:38:41 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: AlanD

My wife is from a European country with socialized medicine.
Here’s how it works: Cash.

You can wait around all day and get free care. Or you can pay
cash. It’s expected you’ll pay cash.

Lot of the medical care is done by pharmacist. Medical degrees
are four year. Lot shorter life expectancy.

Get what you pay for.


7 posted on 04/20/2010 7:39:57 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: AlanD

HIPPA laws prevent bartering according to my Doctor.


8 posted on 04/20/2010 7:41:02 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: AlanD

I’ve often thought about the America that was before the Socialist Teddy Kennedy screwed it all up with his cohorts in the Socialist/Democrat Party back in the sixties.

I’d love to see a return to the old days with government the Hell out of our lives, our healthcare, protecting our freedoms instead of taking them from us.

I would think Lowden is reflecting on that America that was, and should be again as the laws that have come about at the hand of the Leftists, and their political sycophants are mostly contrary to the supreme law that is the Constitution IMO.


9 posted on 04/20/2010 7:41:37 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: AlanD
There are lots of chickens in Nevada. Cock fighting is a very big deal and there are several large egg operations. More coming in since Kalifornia is running them out of the chicken business. Heck most of my neighbors have 3-10 chickens.
10 posted on 04/20/2010 7:42:06 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: TigerBait

Are you saying that doctors in Europe don’t like chickens or that they don’t eat chicken for dinner?


11 posted on 04/20/2010 7:42:09 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: counterpunch

“you don’t bring a chicken to the doctor.”

If you’re really sick, bring a cow!


12 posted on 04/20/2010 7:44:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: AlanD

In a rambling way, she might be trying to say that onerous regulation would drive a significant amount of health care under the table. Nobody would try to pay a doctor with a chicken today. But this bumbling makes George W. Bush look like he had the lithe tongue of an auctioneer.


13 posted on 04/20/2010 7:45:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I really do like Sue Lowden. She is absolutely adorable and likable. I don’t know if this kills her chances . . Harry Reid has already made an attack ad for it .. mentioned on Leno, etc.

Nevada voters are a funny lot. They may vote for her anyway, or choose a more buttoned-down less charismatic candidate for the Republican nomination.

This is an unforced error . . the kind that wipes out $100,000s of hard-fought donations. She reminds me of Sarah Palin in a way . .


14 posted on 04/20/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: dalereed

LOL!


15 posted on 04/20/2010 7:50:34 PM PDT by counterpunch (GOP: Government's Other Party)
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To: mylife

“HIPPA laws prevent bartering according to my Doctor.”

Screw legal, barter works fine as long as neither side is stupid enough to report it.


16 posted on 04/20/2010 7:57:44 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Just reporting what a Doc said to me.


17 posted on 04/20/2010 7:58:49 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: dalereed

He lamented the added regulation.


18 posted on 04/20/2010 7:59:22 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: AlanD

What is happening with Danny Tarkanian?


19 posted on 04/20/2010 8:01:24 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Jack Bauer Motto: " I don't want revenge. I just want justice")
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To: dalereed; mylife

Does Hippa prevent “gift-giving”? I can think of some nice presents for my doctor, like helping him start a new hobby for when he retires.

Like a nice precious coin collection!


20 posted on 04/20/2010 8:01:33 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

“Does Hippa prevent “gift-giving”?”

You could give him/her up to $12,500/year as a tax free gift.


21 posted on 04/20/2010 8:06:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: jacquej

I dont know.
I’m just relaying what I was told by a Doctor.


22 posted on 04/20/2010 8:07:47 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: AlanD
I wonder which Doctor he was mentioning?

The 9th?

Maybe the 10th?

Or possibly the 11th? (the newest Doctor)
23 posted on 04/20/2010 8:08:45 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I am going to have some minor surgery done later this month. I I will be bringing a turtle, a green parrot, myna bird, a beautiful swan , and two roosters and a plowhorse to the office in lieu of insurance.


24 posted on 04/20/2010 8:13:15 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

Truth is a lot of small town doctors (yes there ares till a few) in poorer areas have done this for years. This new insurance bill, which is what it is, would make that illegal, just as it would make it illegal for medicare patients to pay what medicare doesn’t cover in order to get better care or care that isn’t covered.

While not many may care about this bartering thing, the very poor and some tribes have always done it that way, and they want to keep it, rather than lose their local doc!


25 posted on 04/20/2010 8:13:27 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gidget7

Sue Lowden is onto something but made her point in s stupid and ridiculous manner. She will only be a Senator . .not like she will be President. Still, why not get someone who has some knowledge on how to string words together?

I am not convinced that this ends her candidacy. She is likable and people might still vote for her.


26 posted on 04/20/2010 8:16:09 PM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

What station was she on when she said these things? Was she asked to explain it?

HIPPA laws have done enough to take away our freedoms regarding medical care and choices of doctors. This latest bill HAS TO GO!


27 posted on 04/20/2010 8:20:02 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AlanD

My mother, who grew up on a farm in Orange County, Calif. remembers patients offering chickens as payment for a doctor’s services.


28 posted on 04/20/2010 8:20:12 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: mylife

HIPPA laws prevent bartering according to my Doctor.”

The only thing HIPPA laws prevent is confidentiality of your medical records and efficiency of operation. Most docs will gladly negotiate fees for cash for basic medical in exchange for no paperwork.


29 posted on 04/20/2010 9:09:08 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: counterpunch

I wrote the book on Harry Reid (literally, see my tagline and my profile) just because of this kind of potential for self destruction by local Republicans. It will be a close race.

Any help reviewing my book is appreciated.


30 posted on 04/20/2010 9:16:36 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: AlanD
I really do like Sue Lowden. She is absolutely adorable and likable.

You obviously have never met the woman. I have on numerous occasions. She is a self-centered, all about "me" kind of person. If she isn't the center of attention, she pouts or does something to turn it back to her. If she is speaking to someone she doesn't consider important she is constantly looking over their shoulder to see if someone more important is there.

Oh yeah - and she's a big-time RINO

31 posted on 04/20/2010 9:30:27 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Danny Tarkanian - US Senate (tark2010.org))
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To: Mountain Mary
Dannhy is holding his own and doing really well. We just had an "old-fashioned" political rally on Sunday and he ROCKED. People were clamoring to meet and speak with him. We re-registered voters (NV is a closed primary state) and went through bumper stickers, signs, etc. like there was no tomorrow.

Most of the polling though seems to be each candidate vs Harry Reid...not against each other. No offense to any of the candidates but I think my dog could beat Reid.

32 posted on 04/20/2010 9:34:40 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Danny Tarkanian - US Senate (tark2010.org))
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To: ninergold3

I contributed to his campaign but haven’t heard much lately about how he is faring as opposed to Lowden. He’s my choice and I hope he wins. Thanks for the update.


33 posted on 04/21/2010 6:26:51 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Jack Bauer Motto: " I don't want revenge. I just want justice")
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To: AlanD
What do people think?

I thought it was an Onion article, to be honest. I'd be a little worried about a return to the old days of medicine - back then they used to proscribe Laudanum for quite a few things.

If I was a doctor, I'd be pissed at her for even suggesting something like this. I'm pretty sure she's not paying her mortgage with chickens.

If I were still a Republican, I'd also be pissed at her for saying crap like this since it feeds right into the stereotypes some have for the right.
34 posted on 04/22/2010 1:32:52 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Like Democrats and Libertarians don’t say dumb things too?


35 posted on 04/22/2010 1:44:01 PM PDT by AlanD
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