Skip to comments.Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface?
Posted on 04/20/2010 8:02:29 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
The defense attorney for an officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander in chief has hinted that the president's proof of eligibility could come up during the course of the government's prosecution of his client.
"In the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), just as you would expect, criminal defendants have the process of the court, for subpoenas and depositions under the rules that are prescribed," attorney Paul Jensen said during an interview today on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy.
Jensen was on the program with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who posted a YouTube video inviting his own court-martial because he believes military orders under an ineligible president are illegal, and then posted a letter telling Obama that it's up to him to provide the proof.
"I'm not going to say what we are going to do other than we are going to do what you would want us to do," Jensen said.
He specifically avoided broadcasting any specific defense strategy for the case that is developing against Lakin confirming that the officer was told in writing on Monday that he now has been "flagged" by the military and charges are expected to be filed soon.
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BORN IN THE USA? Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface? Attorney hints proof of eligibility will come up in officer's defense
Obama, you arrogant democrat, show us your long form and explain to us why you spent $2 million in legal fees to keep it from us.
Will Obama docs surface?
Ha,ha. They’ll give the officer 90 days peeling potatoes, then “forget” the whole thing ever happened. It’ll never see the inside of a court...../s;)
So Barrack did you order the code red yet
The colonel will not be seeing those documents. The trial judge advocate will present that the United States House of Rep and the U.S. Senate counted the electoral ballots. Each of which was duly accepted and submitted by each of the 50 states. The election results were certified on JAN 6 2010 and that is the end of the matter. The Military judge will not accept the need to go beyond the acceptance and certification by Congress. Nice try though.
What's he going to do - not run in ‘x’ number of states in 2012?
Not at Lakin's court martial, no.
Someone please explain again why the (2) newspaper birth announcements do not lend credibility to Obama’s American birth? I am at a loss to understand how these could be fradulent, planted or anticipatory of baby Obama’s future presidency.
This doesn't make sense. Bozo was still elected and sworn in as president. Even assuming that Bozo is ineligible to serve, that doesn't invalidate the law. His actions as president are still authoritative.
Analogy: say it turned out that a recently hired CEO of a major corporation lied on his resume and didn't meet basic requirements for the job. But, when the board of directors discover the violation, they decide to keep him in office. The CEO would still be the boss.
Given that every day reveals more corruption and incompetence, I would be surprised if he even finishes out his “first really good” term.
That being said he would have to be nominated by his party ~ seems to be a long shot to me.
BULL CRAP!! Do You get your Paycheck from OBAMA-SOROS, INC.?
“Nice try though.”
Your assuming the military doesn’t want the answer, and second, it would invite an appeal in federal court to deny such a demand.
Under Section 57 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii (in effect in 1961), a mailed-in form (without mention of a hospital, doctor, or midwife) signed by only one of Obama's parents (who could have been out of the country or whose signature could have been forged by a grandparent) or grandparents, would be enough to set up a birth record at the Department of Vital Statistics. This meager birth record would then automatically generate newspaper announcements, and also, a computer-generated COLB in 2008.
If he was born in Kenya and returned to U.S. after a few days and birth announcement provided to paper (either by mother upon return or relatives hearing of birth). I have no idea, just guessing.
Did You ever notice the Bullcrap printed everyday? or You a person who believes ROCKS have Brilliant I.Q’s? Just Asking because I am curious!....:-)
I’ll give it a try:
The (2) newspaper birth announcements are too far downstream from the fraud, if indeed a fraud happened, of obtaining a birth certificate.
For argument sake, suppose that Barack Obama was born in Kenya during a visit there by his parents as alleged. How would they get an American birth certificate on record? Easy. Hawaii law in 1961 allowed for walk-in recording of births up to a year after birth. (because some weren’t born in hospitals). So, when the Obamas get back to Hawaii, someone walks in to the records department and registers the birth. (Here is where the fraud would have ocurred).
Then the birth certificate gets created and filed, and takes its natural course in the Vital Statistics bureau - including routinely getting reported out to newspapers.
I’m not saying that it did happen that way. Just that it is possible. The newpaper records are not proof that Obama was born in the US, just proof that there is a birth certificate on file in Hawaii - however obtained.
This is the most mis-reported story in the last year IMHO.
“But, when the board of directors discover the violation, they decide to keep him in office.”
The board of directors doesn’t have a Constitution to deal with...
When I see a post that makes me angry, before I make a fool of myself with an accusation, I check out the posters past comments. Try it.
In your analogy the corporation would have to amend the company's founding documents which state that someone without X is ineligible to be CEO, and the board of directors must win a 2/3 vote of all the departments heads to change the founding documents. Obama does not have the right to be president, period. I do not consider him to be my president. He's a Communist infiltrator, and will get his due one day. I personally am 1/300 millionth president of the USA right now. He is Zero!
Thank you! You confirmed my conclusion, there You go again!
Bingo!! I have always believed that Obama’s grandmother, knowing the vital importance of American citizenship, did all the footwork in Hawaii. Probably before grandbaby ever set foot in the country.
I don't think it's ever been done, although I believe it's possible: has a major party candidate ever run for POTUS without appearing on all the states ballots?
Outside of Abraham Lincoln in 1864, I can't think of any others. And 1864 was a special case, to be sure.
So would the DNC try to run Soetoro in say, 40 states instead of 50, if 10 states passed a proof of eligibility law? If that doesn't prove Soetoro is ineligible, I don't know what does.
I don’t believe Arizona’s proof requirement has been formally voted on yet.
The order to report to Fort Campbell is not an illegal order. But facts are a terrible burden for many folks. :-)
You see, there was a Santanic conspiracy to put Obama in office. Time travelers went back to Honolulu in 1961 to submit fraudulent birth announcements in the two papers to cover up that he was actually born in Kenya. It was a clever trick, but we are not fooled.
Then a “fake” birth certificate was produced by a group of space aliens and Al Qadea agents using photo-shop and sent out to the media.
A Wicken Coven also stepped in to use CIA mind control technology to brain wash the governor of Hawaii and Hospital officials to keep the real documents hidden.
It all make sense when you know the secret story.
My understanding is that these newspaper announcements are made routinely under a number of circumstances. They are done even when the baby was not born in hawaii.
Because Hawaii had extremely lax birth registration laws in 1961.
You could have been born anywhere and Hawaii would have accepted any information that anyone could have sent in on a mail-in form. Born on Mars? No problem. Just fill out the form that you were born on Oahu and you get a certificate! Isn't that cool???
Seriously.....read the link....and then read this one on Attorney Mario Apuzzo's website where he explains the newspaper announcements legally don't mean a birth occurred in Hawaii, just that a birth was REGISTERED in Hawaii.
Look, he was born in the USA because 1) no pregant woman flies to Kenya to have a baby and 2) Barack Obama, Sr. IS NOT HIS REAL FATHER.
You confirmed you made a fool of yourself? That’s a good first step Eleven more to go.
You meant Lincoln in 1860.
DUH! Anybody can call in an announcement and it will be printed! ANYBODY!!! Are You Stupid? An Announcement in a Newspaper is NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT!! DUH!!
That’s quite an assumption, but I am looking forward to the voting results from AZ.
...and Fremont in 1856. All the Southern and border states kept the first & second GOP Presidential candidates off the ballot.
I think you’re on to something...
The condition of “natural born birth” vis-a-vis eligibility for U. S. presidency requires that both parents be U. S. citizens.
Let the Audience be the Judge! Your judgment is highly suspect, probably almost as good as OBOZO’S! GOSH! Thaaaaaaats pretty Pathetic! EHH!
“Lt. Col. Terry Lakin is a hero in my book.”
In my book as well.
“Hemenway said the message was that “he will shortly be court-martialed for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.”
Well they said he will be court martialed and will get hard labor. Well go for it Obama. If this man is facing ANY prison then the Congress vote count and other evidence will not be enough. The Doctor will be able to get more evidence.
My guess is Obama will back down further showing he is not eligble.
I was thinking 1864; that Lincoln wasn't on any CSA state ballots, obviously, even though they were/are states.
Why did You use a Question mark? Are You so Liberal and Twisted, You cant figure out what you believe? Just asking??
Let’s see. My judgement is that this effort to see the documents comes to a dead end. Your judgement is that I’m an Obama Soros troll whose been here since Aug. 2000 just waiting for this opportunity. Okay call Jim and ask him to ban me.