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Israeli Officials Weigh Option Of Attacking Iran Without U.S. Consent
The Wall Street Journal ^ | April 20, 2010

Posted on 04/21/2010 1:53:28 AM PDT by Fennie

The Israeli security establishment is divided over whether it needs Washington's blessing if Israel decides to attack Iran.

The Israeli security establishment is divided over whether it needs Washington's blessing if Israel decides to attack Iran, Israeli officials say, as the U.S. campaign for sanctions drags on and Tehran steadily develops greater nuclear capability.

Some senior Israeli officals say in interviews with the Wall Street Journal that they see signs Washington may be willing to live with a nuclear-armed Iran, an eventuality that Israel says it won't accept.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: bhomiddleeast; iran; iraniannukes; israel; military; obama; palin
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To: Fennie

Hussein 0bummer will order the shoot-down of Israeli planes.


41 posted on 04/21/2010 8:03:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (http://www.teapartyslogans.com/cgi-bin/web/index.cgi)
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To: rbg81

We need to also be watching our backyard...First official report on The Axis on our doorstep..Iran, Russia Chavaz moving militarty for awhile now to S. America...

“Iranians (Qods Shock Force) in Venezuela and Latin America.”

...........”The report provides the first warning in an official U.S. government report about Iranian paramilitary activities in the Western Hemisphere..... It also highlights links between Iran and the anti-U.S. government of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez,

Iranian-backed terrorists have conducted few attacks in the region. However,..... U.S. intelligence officials say Qods operatives are developing networks of terrorists in the region who could be called to attack the United States in the event of a conflict over Iran’s nuclear program.

Qods force support for extremists includes providing arms, funding and paramilitary training and is not constrained by Islamist ideology. “Many of the groups it supports do not share, and sometimes openly oppose, Iranian revolutionary principles, but Iran supports them because they share common interests or enemies,” the report says”........
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/21/iran-boosts-qods-shock-troops-in-venezuela/


42 posted on 04/21/2010 8:14:57 AM PDT by caww
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To: SJackson

LORD GOD, THANKS FOR KEEPING ALL THINGS IN YOUR TIMING AND CONTROL, IN JESUS’ NAME.


43 posted on 04/21/2010 8:34:13 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: dervish

I am glad that people are still trying. It amazes me that the anti-war liberal crowd in this country still doesn’t seem to understand that if it were not for our brave soldiers - WE WOULD ALL BE SLAVES!!!!!

War is ugly and people die. It is the cost of freedom. But in the real world - not in the Code Pink world of rainbows and flying unicorns - we all have to fight to be free and we have to fight to remain free.

They will say that we are interfering, that our help is not wanted, that everyone around the world hates us. Really? And who told you that lie? Watch these two videos - those poor people thought that Obama would raise his hand to help them.

Free My Land (IRAN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYaPgpkA80

Stand with Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W0xo33ZQoM&feature=related


44 posted on 04/21/2010 9:20:28 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: avoth

I agree, Samson option - hell yes.


45 posted on 04/21/2010 9:38:55 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: CatoRenasci

I disagree. There are thiings going on in Iran that are not widely known. With a little European assistance - A-jad could go down without a fight.


46 posted on 04/21/2010 9:41:08 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

I agree. Obama sided with A-jad on that one. But the movement is not dead. Oddly enough - Aryans may come to their aid. (Not the Nazi Aryans - the other ones).


47 posted on 04/21/2010 9:42:41 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: CatoRenasci

A great many Iranians hate Islam, and they need our assistance. A change in the government of Iran changes everything.


48 posted on 04/21/2010 9:45:23 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: nolongerademocrat

I hope your two posts are correct. The problem is the Obama regime will not do what’s necessary to help things along. No one would be happier than I would be if my analysis turned out to be wrong.


49 posted on 04/21/2010 9:59:19 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci

Obama is very quickly losing power and influence. Sadly for us, Obama is destroying the reputation of the Presidency. Someone will fill the void, I hope someone good. This movement in Iran has some unexpected sources of influence.


50 posted on 04/21/2010 10:03:53 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: CatoRenasci

IRAN will be free again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrv03npydLk&feature=channel

Iran - Remeber all patriots killed by islamics and leftists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbooq_lZiRA&feature=channel


51 posted on 04/21/2010 1:42:15 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Lumper20

Imagine the Loss of the Christian Holy Places
Monday, April 19, 2010, 8:09 PM
Michael Novak
On Easter Sunday, I was able to sit in prayer for a while at the Shrine run by sweet Italian nuns on top of the Mountain of the Beatitudes, the most famous of Sermons. It was infinitely peaceful, and I needed it.

Later it hit me: What if the mad leader of Iran fulfilled his pledge to wipe Israel from the map with the Iranian nuclear weapon, coming soon? What would we Christians do without the Mount of the Sermon?

Without Capernaum? Without Nazareth? Without Cana?

Without the lovely and mystical city of Jerusalem–without Golgotha, and the Mount of Olives, the Garden of Gethsemane, and the Tomb?

Without Bethlehem?

Without the Sea of Tiberius (the Sea of Galilee), where Jesus after his Resurrection had Peter and the others cast their net on the other side of their boat?

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/04/19/imagine-the-loss-of-the-christian-holy-places/


52 posted on 04/21/2010 2:08:15 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: CatoRenasci
Very sobering.

I believe that the bunker-busters are being quarantined in Diego Garcia (by orders of the CIC), after they were promised to the Israelis.

This is like holding Israel's hands behind their back while Iran takes a slug at them.

I believe the anti-aircraft defense being supplied to Iran by Russia will be installed and online by early summer. If I were the decision-maker, knowing that even the Arab states in the gulf are terrified of an Iranian Nuclear Bomb, I would use whatever was necessay to eliminate it.

Furthermore, it has been almost 65 years since a demonstration of the seriousness of warmaking was made evident.

I believe we made a Big Mistake after 9-11 of not making the West's capabilities evident. It would have nipped a lot of this nonsense in the bud, instead of prolonging the Islamic Fantasy that they will overtake us.

My prayers are with the decision-makers in Israel.

53 posted on 04/21/2010 2:25:06 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: left that other site
Why does Israel need US “Permission” to defend itself, build houses, or do ANYTHING, for that matter?

He who pays the piper calls the tune. Don't like it? Quit accepting foreign aid.

54 posted on 04/21/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Fennie; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping


55 posted on 04/21/2010 2:44:18 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: nolongerademocrat
This movement in Iran has some unexpected sources of influence.

Intriguing.

And what do you mean by Aryans ?

Are the Iranians returning to Zoastrianism ?

56 posted on 04/21/2010 2:55:09 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: CatoRenasci

good thoughtful post and I agree.

The decision has been made even if by default. Neither Israel nor the U.S. will attack Iran first. The ball is in Iran’s court. Iran won’t attack because it means anniliation by Israel if it can still pull it off or complete isolation by the whole world. This is MAD and nothing will happen by Iran per se. It doesn’t need to. The real fear is Iran laundering nukes thru terrorists who destroy Israel. That is where this is going.


57 posted on 04/21/2010 4:46:58 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: CatoRenasci

I agree. Although, I think that even in 50 years, the West can, and will, win.


I wiah I were as optimistic as you. Something fundamental in the Western mindset has changed over the last 50 years. Something has eroded our confidence in ourselves; I would even go as far to say that many in the West wish to make themselves extinct. Why this is something of a mystery to me. Perhaps its just part of the natural rise and fall of civilizations? Hopefully, there will be enough people left with the backbone and will to overcome the general inertia and foolishness of our “leaders”.


58 posted on 04/21/2010 5:06:06 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: CatoRenasci

100 ballistic missilles carrying 1000kg solid depleted uranium or Titanium warheads could cause alot of damage. Each one causes the damage of over 10 tons of TNT focuses on one spot. Add this to a 125 bombers, this could still do a lot of damage without using nukes. Of course, Iran would retaliate against both Israel, the US and oil interests in the region. Heck, Venezuala may sop selling us oil for a few days.


59 posted on 04/21/2010 5:22:29 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: happygrl

Looks like large groups are making that return to Zoastrianism. I’ll see if I can find those videos from youtube again and I’ll post them for you. Original Aryans - from long before Hitler took his first evil breath.


60 posted on 04/22/2010 5:56:17 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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