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Tea Party Express endorses Democrat in Idaho
http://hotair.com ^ | April 21, 2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/21/2010 10:32:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm

Vaughn Ward wonders when the Tea Party Express passed him by. The Republican challenger to Blue Dog Democrat Rep. Walt Minnick in Idaho figured to at least have a shot at an endorsement to switch the seat from a vote for Nancy Pelosi and Democratic control of the House. Instead, the Tea Party Express endorsed Minnick, and left a lot of head-scratching behind in Idaho afterward:

When the Tea Party Express last week endorsed Idaho Rep. Walt Minnick — the only Democrat to receive the backing of the conservative grassroots group — one of his Republican challengers said he was simply baffled to learn the news, considering Minnick’s past votes that line up with Democrats on bailouts, the estate tax and Guantanamo Bay.

“He voted for Nancy Pelosi. I mean all these things — I’m like, ‘Wait a minute. This is the guy you guys want to get behind nationally?’” said Republican Vaughn Ward, an active Marine Corps reserve officer whose candidacy for Minnick’s seat was endorsed by Sarah Palin.

His initial shock, Ward told The Daily Caller during an interview Tuesday, turned to frustration upon learning from Tea Party groups in Idaho — who he said have not endorsed candidates in the race yet — that the Tea Party Express didn’t consult them before the endorsement of the Democrat. …

Sal Russo, a strategist with Tea Party Express, said the group did reach out to a number of groups and activists, many of whom support Minnick. Democrats who “are willing to stand up to Pelosi and Reid” should get support from Tea Party organizations “to encourage others” to act similarly, he said.

“When you find someone willing to stand up, you got to stand up with him,” Russo said.

The strategist said he wouldn’t be surprised to see the group add another Democrat or two to the list. “It can’t be a one-party issue. Fiscal responsibility has to be embedded in both parties,” he said.

Tea Party groups from around the country have positioned themselves outside of the Republican Party, demanding accountability from GOP leadership before supporting Republicans. They have also made the point Russo notes here, that both parties need to have fiscal discipline in order for the US to end the spending spree that is sending us careening towards bankruptcy. In that sense, Minnick might be the one Democrat to support. While his party pushed a Porkulus bill that cost $830 billion and didn’t stimulate anything, Minnick proposed a $170 billion version that eliminated all of the pork and had self-termination clauses that returned unspent money after recovery began. He voted against Porkulus, cap-and-trade, and ObamaCare.

On the other hand, Minnick voted for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, and would certainly do so again in 2011 — and that makes a big difference. The Republicans aren’t guaranteed to win a majority, after all, and they need every seat they can get to take control of the House. Without a Republican majority, Pelosi will once again control the agenda and will continue to pursue her hard-Left, nanny-state, big spending legislation. A vote for Minnick makes that more likely rather than less, which puts the Tea Party efforts at least a little more at risk.

Should Tea Party organizations consider endorsing Democrats in this cycle? Take the poll:


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 2010endorsements; conservativevote; democrat; democrats; id2010; idaho; minnick; party; tea; teaparty; teapartyexpress; ward
http://www.vaughnward.com/

Vaughn Ward for Congress


1 posted on 04/21/2010 10:32:18 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Is there any reason to add one more vote to Pelosi for speaker? I fail to see how this makes any sense at all.


2 posted on 04/21/2010 10:34:00 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Tarpon

It makes some sense. If the Tea Party endorses 435 GOP establishment candidates for the House, then they look like a branch of the GOP. If they endorse a genuinely conservative Dem here and a challenger to the GOP there, then they look like what they are, a genuinely new phenomenon. I think it adds to their credibility. As for the Idaho race, a republican who can’t beat a Dem in that state (even with the Tea endorsement going the wrong way) deserves to lose.


3 posted on 04/21/2010 10:37:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Maelstorm

I thought the Tea Party movement didn’t endorse candidates!


4 posted on 04/21/2010 10:38:07 AM PDT by Cricket24 (Conservatives Only...NO RINO'S!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tarpon

Who are the people involved in this TPE in Idaho.

Why do they want to keep the Dums in power, when they have made it clear that A commie/socialist America is their goal.


5 posted on 04/21/2010 10:39:03 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Tarpon

It doesn’t to me either. The Dem Minnick is also a hate crimes proponent. He is more conservative than most but I agree with you. There is no reason to return him to Washington. If he wants to be a Republican than he should switch parties.


6 posted on 04/21/2010 10:41:39 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: Pollster1

“If they endorse a genuinely conservative Dem”

...no such thing. In fact “... the term “democrat” originated as an epithet and referred to ‘one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.” (Joseph Ellis - “Founding Brothers: The Revolutionary Generation”).


7 posted on 04/21/2010 10:41:58 AM PDT by albie
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To: Maelstorm

2010 and 2012 aren’t just battles where lessons can be taught and consequences recovered from. They are the battles that will determine the winner of the war. Make choices wisely.


8 posted on 04/21/2010 10:42:39 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Maelstorm

I used to give democrats some consideration based on their record of voting. But after the vote on Obamacare, I have decided that the worst Republican is better than the best democrat.

Standing up against Pelosi doesn’t overcome voting for her as speaker.

The “Tea Party Express” endorsement of a democrat smacks of the kind of spineless “big tent” mentality that got weak-candidate-McCain to represent the GOP. Fortunately, the “Tea Party Express” doesn’t represent the Tea Party, and I strongly disagree with their endorsement.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 10:43:07 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Maelstorm

Minnick has received money and support from NARAL. Evidently the abortionists consider him their man. Sorry, I can understand the wish to support a few Democrats to avoid the all-Republican label, but this just won’t do.

If the Tea Party starts supporting abortionists, then the hell with it.

Think again, you “leaders” who did this. Think really hard. Do not destroy the Tea Party in order to make a token move to appease the press.


10 posted on 04/21/2010 10:43:15 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Maelstorm; GOP_Raider

Walt Minnick is not all that conservative. If he were, he would be a Republican, and he wouldn’t have voted for SanFranNan for speaker. I understand that he is also opposed to repealing Obamacare.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 10:44:49 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: Maelstorm

Another reason for Tea Party groups to stay independent of any type of organization. Who gave these people the right to say ‘This is our guy.’? Who did that? The other groups should speak up.
Sounds like infiltration under the guise of looking ‘fair’.


12 posted on 04/21/2010 10:46:11 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Maelstorm
drunk 1 Pictures, Images and Photos

Drunk with power or just plain drunk when Tea Party Express came up with this stunt.

13 posted on 04/21/2010 10:49:28 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Cicero

I am anti abortion and would never consider voting for a Democrat, because (look at Stupak) even the ones who say they are anti abortion will cave. Stupak probably was threatened with the loss of everything he holds dear in that conference with Obama, including his cat and dog.

That said, the tea party does not have an anti abortion platform. From what I understand they have a simple, fiscal responsibility and traditional founding fathers against government tyranny platform. They are a “big tent”.

This is why I consider myself a member of the Constitution party.

Seven Principles of the Constitution Party are:

1.Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;
2.Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;
3.Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;
4.Property: Each individual’s right to own and steward personal property without government burden;
5.Constitution: and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;
6.States’ Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states or to the people;
7.American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense.

I will vote for any candidate that promotes these things, I don’t care what party they are.


14 posted on 04/21/2010 10:50:26 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Pollster1

No it doesn’t make any sense to me, Democrats turn into, well, card carrying PARTY Democrats regardless the issue.


15 posted on 04/21/2010 10:52:21 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: albie
Congressman Minnick Voting Record
2008 Bailout$ . Auto$ . 2009 Cap&Trade . FDA/Food . Healthcare .
Representative HR1424 District HR7321 District Representative HR2454 District HR2749 District HR3962 District
Sali, Bill [R] Nay ID-1 No ID-1 Minnick, Walter [D] No ID-1 Nay ID-1 No ID-1

16 posted on 04/21/2010 10:52:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Pollster1
If they endorse a genuinely conservative Dem here ...

You mean like, for example, Bart Stupak...?

17 posted on 04/21/2010 10:55:09 AM PDT by chimera
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To: Maelstorm

A vote for a Democrat is a vote to KEEP Nancy Pelosi!

And just when did the Tea Party start endorsing candidates anyway??


18 posted on 04/21/2010 10:59:23 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Maelstorm

Real Tea Party groups don’t endorse any candidates!

The candidates will be elected according to each members vote only!


19 posted on 04/21/2010 10:59:24 AM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Texas Fossil

This guy keeps Pelosi in charge .
That is all that matters.


20 posted on 04/21/2010 11:04:35 AM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: chimera
You mean like, for example, Bart Stupak...?

that one surprised me. I thought that he was one of the few ethical Dems in Congress. Needless to say, I was very wrong.

21 posted on 04/21/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Pollster1
there are NO conservative democrats. Only faux conservative democrats that vote "their conscience" , which means liberal, when nut crunching time comes and they need the vote. Just like the Judas did for the abortion "fix".

The democrat party is an organizational arm of the communist party that is determined to monitor every person and their lives..... from who should be born, how they are weaned, educated, how much toilet paper to wipe your ass, water in your toilet, what you eat, what you drink, how big your light bulbs are to how big your car is...cause doncha know that everybody should ride a train or bus on a schedule and not have the freedom of a car.

Democrats are bullsh#tters of the highest order and any support for any of them is a vote for the enemy of my country.

22 posted on 04/21/2010 11:05:49 AM PDT by erman (A day without democrats is like a day without toilets backing up)
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To: Maelstorm

Always a bad idea. There are no more Zell Miller’s in the party.


23 posted on 04/21/2010 11:06:46 AM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: Maelstorm

There are some bad Republicans, but there are NO good DemonRats. Moderates had their arms broken on the Health Care Fiasco. THEY ALL CAVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL DEMONRATS MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVERY ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!


24 posted on 04/21/2010 11:08:33 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Tarpon

this might be a fake tea party group.


25 posted on 04/21/2010 11:11:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: I still care

The Tea Party leaders need to keep in mind that MOST of their supporters are pro-life. And that abortion is not something that you can compromise on or negotiate.

Hillary after the 2004 election said, Let’s compromise! What does that mean, cut the baby in half? Obama at Notre Dame said, Let’s compromise. What does that mean? My way or the highway?

No, if the Tea Party leaders refuse to deal with this issue, they’re going to end up about as popular as Ron Paul. They need conservatives. And you cannot win the conservative vote by compromising on abortion. We have seen that ever since the passage of Roe v. Wade. The Big Tent turns out to be an increasingly smaller tent. The RINOs boast of their broad appeal, but they continually lose elections.

Even if these guys are willing to kill babies in order to cut taxes and spending, their supporters are not. We support life, liberty, and small government. Without life, the rest means nothing.

As I have said, it’s not just a matter of principle, although that’s the main thing. It’s also a matter of voter appeal. Do they want to WIN? Then they’d better not offend 2/3 or 3/4 or 9/10 of their supporters.


26 posted on 04/21/2010 11:12:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: longtermmemmory

could be ... might want to figure out if there is anybody out in Idaho who can investigate.


27 posted on 04/21/2010 11:15:49 AM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: Pollster1

Anyone supporting a Dem pol (directly or indirectly) has no credibility. Although Minnick voted with the conservatives during this congress, don’t tell me that if the Dims keep the House by a narrow margin next year that Pelosi won’t demand Minnick’s vote for her socialist initiatives. Minnick could soon become Pelosi’s boy, a Dim hostage. Pelosi has forced Dims in less conservative districts to walk the plank this year for her beloved 0bamacare etc.
The national TP organization could support a third party congressional candidate if the Republican candidate is not conservative as was the case in NY-23. In fact NY 23 was a textbook example of division leading to failure. The lack of communication produced a split between the national leadership, the local Republican party establishment and the grass roots Republican/Conservative activists. The national TP leaders should at least consult with the local leaders before unwittingly undermining and splintering the movement. The strength of the Tea Party movement rests with the local activists, not with the national leadership. Much like Al Queda, the TP movement is more effective as small cells because there is not a national figure or organization vulnerable to frontal attack from the Dims.
Local control. Isn’t this the essence of our current fight with the Marxists and the Regime?


28 posted on 04/21/2010 11:20:13 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: GOP_Raider; Chief Engineer; Delphinium; EternalVigilance; Keyes2000mt; Sir_Ed; ...
The FR Idaho Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

29 posted on 04/21/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (<----Click over there for a special message from GOP_Raider)
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To: Pollster1
Tea Party Express - a joint partner of Freeedom Works, the president or chief spokeman is Dick "I stab folks in the back" Armey. Dick "It is all about me" Armey wants to talk on camera, so he will be happy to explain why this endorsement makes sense. Boy, I dislike Dick "I did nothing for the voters of my district" Armey. He was a crappy congressman.

I once asked him, "Why do you as a leader of the party allow the DemocRATS to introduce such garbage as the ____ bill?" He said why waste time on a law that won't happen. It does not make us look as bad as you think." A real stand up guy

30 posted on 04/21/2010 11:22:24 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Maelstorm
Sal Russo, a strategist with Tea Party Express, said the group did reach out to a number of groups and activists, many of whom support Minnick. Democrats who “are willing to stand up to Pelosi and Reid” should get support from Tea Party organizations “to encourage others” to act similarly, he said.

“When you find someone willing to stand up, you got to stand up with him,” Russo said.

Who made Sal Russo the "decider" for the Tea Party movement?

31 posted on 04/21/2010 11:28:36 AM PDT by research99
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To: Tarpon
Sal Russo, a strategist with Tea Party Express

Is there any reason to add one more vote to Pelosi for speaker? I fail to see how this makes any sense at all.

Sal Russo heads a PR firm . He has taken control of the TP to tame it and moderate its message , and herd it . He now has a come back to the charge the TP is partisan . He thinks "screw Idaho and those working to get Republicans like Ward elected" . He wants the energy of the TP harnessed , packaged , and delivered for the RINOS .

32 posted on 04/21/2010 11:51:05 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Marty62
Who are the people involved in this TPE in Idaho. Why do they want to keep the Dums in power, when they have made it clear that A commie/socialist America is their goal.

I understand your conclusion you will be glad you can easily be made stronger with the truth .Do a search on this site . We went over this days ago . The Idaho TP was not even consulted . Don't blame this idiocy on Idaho . I blame any Idahoan who didn't speak out after , as I did , as being guilty of what you assumed .

33 posted on 04/21/2010 11:58:28 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: kbennkc

Thanks, I don’t paint with broad brushes, just wanted to know who (individual ) took it upon themself to make this statement.


34 posted on 04/21/2010 12:37:10 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: BamaAndy

And truthfully we don’t want any more. It dilutes conservative power.


35 posted on 04/21/2010 1:06:08 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: Pollster1
A lot of us were taken in. I thought people like Stupak and maybe Bob Casey would stand by their professed pro-life principles. They fooled us. Party loyalty, and loyalty to a man (Obama), took precedence over morality and principles.

So, now we need to learn. You know, the old saying, fool me once..., blah blah blah. Lesson one: there are no "moderate" Dems, there are no "conservative" Dems, there are no "pro-life Dems". There are simply, 'Rats. And they are loyal to Obama. That makes them radical, liberal, pro-abortion 'Rats. Lesson two: never, ever trust a 'Rat. No matter what he/she says, never, ever trust their word. The word of as 'Rat is useless. It has no value. Lesson three: always vote to defeat a 'Rat. Short of Satan himself, a vote for anyone to defeat a 'Rat is a better choice than having the 'Rat re-elected.

36 posted on 04/21/2010 2:08:23 PM PDT by chimera
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To: All

Background Link with a lot of updates here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2494121/posts


37 posted on 04/21/2010 2:10:54 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cricket24

Since the Tea Party Movement is an “idological movement” and not a “party”, they should endorse no one. Let those who believe they deserve the votes of those who ascribe to the Tea Party Movements ideals embrace those ideas publicly and in writing. They should be judged by their past political deeds. If they measure up and are electable, they can expect the votes.


38 posted on 04/21/2010 5:35:45 PM PDT by Tucson (Sometimes we feel guilty because we are guilty)
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To: pallis
"They are the battles that will determine the winner of the war"

The war hasn't yet started...yet. The 2010 and 2012 elections could avert it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

39 posted on 04/21/2010 6:39:06 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: wku man

“The war hasn’t yet started...yet. The 2010 and 2012 elections could avert it.”

Don’t tell the left. They think they’ve been fighting the war for decades and winning. Given the state of our universities, our educational system, our media, both entertainment and news, our government institutions and agencies, the left has good reason for thinking they have won. If Democrats win in 2010 and 2012, it will all be over but the crying, maybe a little shooting, and then the cleansing begins.


40 posted on 04/22/2010 11:07:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Maelstorm; All

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4w1pGcmH_Y

“D-01 Ad: Is Walt Minnick Voting Your Values?”

Video Description - Quote:

TheNRCC — May 10, 2010 — no description available

Category:
News & Politics

Tags:
Minnick ID-01 Congress Campaigns Elections Life Obama Pelosi Health Care Healthcare ObamaCare


41 posted on 05/17/2010 11:59:40 PM PDT by Cindy
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