As you can see, in 1923 the British took 75% of the proposed Jewish homeland and gave it her enemies (the Arabs east of the Jordan River).
Posted on 04/21/2010 1:24:00 PM PDT by Nachum
Jerusalem - A growing number of Palestinians support the establishment of a single state for Jews and Arabs including Israel and the occupied territories, according to a poll released on Wednesday.
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Tell them to earn it. As of this date, the Palestinians have done nothing to show the world that they deserve their own state.
They have one. It’s called Jordan.
They’ve obviously shown they’re capable of running one successfully.
A single state they can hyper-populate and control. Nope.
Then they will be in control as the so called Palestinians outnumber the Jews.
From what I understand, Palestinians live in encampments in Jordan. They aren’t allowed to mingle with the Jordanian population. Jordan doesn’t even want them, nor does any other country in the Middle East.
Here’s the only viable solution:
For Jews, the state of Israel. ...which includes ALL of Jerusalem, the W. Bank, Gaza, Sinai, and the Golan Heights.
For Arabs, anywhere else in the Middle East except Israel.
Jordan kicked them out.........bigtime.............
Heh? You miss the point. They want Israel proper wrapped into it it, so they can then pressure all the Jews out and take over all the productive infrastructure , a la Zimbabwe and South Africa.
Palestinians are absolutely incapable of creating a productive State on its own that is not 100 % subsidized by someone else. All theyre really good at is killing people and themselves ( and maybe some subsistence sheep farming).
Bullshit. Over half of Jordanian citizens are East Bank Palestinians. Not living in camps; living in cities, farms, etc.
Why? So they can vote the Jews out of office and take over the land that way? It sounds heavenly on its face, but testing that angel of light would be in order.
No, they didnt. They kicked out Arafat and the terrorist leadership. Not the same thing.
“Palestinians want one state”
After they commit genocide against Israel. But then, we have an administration that has no problem with regimes that have murdered tens of millions.
As you can see, in 1923 the British took 75% of the proposed Jewish homeland and gave it her enemies (the Arabs east of the Jordan River).
Of course they want that. Because it would destroy Israel demographically.
Like I said, it got rid of the Fatah terrorists and their fighters, and over half of Jordan is still made up of East Bank Palestinians, and most of them do not live in camps, etc. The King is Hashemite, but most of the people are not.
Of course they do. Because they want the Jews wiped out.
“co-existance” is not the plan.
That’s because they are outbreeding the Israelis. If they had any brains, that hadn’t been converted to mush by the death-worshipping cult they cling to, they’d already have effective control over Israel just be their sheer numbers.
Tell them to earn it. As of this date, the Palestinians have done nothing to show the world that they deserve their own state.
Don't miss the point here... even some of those supporting Israel for Israel taking over all of the territories can get "caught" in this one... :-)
Let's say you let Israel's government (the current one) take control of all territory, so that the entire area is not Palestinian, but it's Israel, under the control of the current Israeli government.
Then all the current Palestinians are part of that "one state" of Israel.
And even if they do not even control one bit of the mechanism of the government of the State of Israel when that happens (and as you say, they have done nothing to show that they can run a government responsibly) -- in short order, just a mere few elections, they will be able to vote out all Israeli legislators and install their own legislators ... thereby taking control of the government.
That's the "ticking time bomb" that Israel has on its hands. So, either Israel takes control of all the area, and this is what they get -- or -- Israel splits off the Palestinians to themselves and let them try to govern themselves (but it keeps all the Palestinians out of Israeli proper, that way and keeps all the Palestinians out of the Israeli government).
If you argue for a "one-state solution" with Israel in control of that one state (i.e., being "Israel" for the entire area) -- you end up with Israel being destroyed and wiped out.
They have one. It’s called Jordan.
Sorry, that ended a long time ago. They had a war with the Jordanians and Jordan kicked a lot of them out of the country (Israel even helped Jordan on that one) and also, Jordan won't let them back in again -- because it doesn't want Jordan taken over by the Islamic terrorists and turning it into a terrorist campground.
You're way beyond that point now, with Jordan. They'll never have the Palestinians back again.
For Jews, the state of Israel. ...which includes ALL of Jerusalem, the W. Bank, Gaza, Sinai, and the Golan Heights.
The only problem with that is when you incorporate a piece of land into your country -- you also get the people who are living there ... LOL ...
And if Israel did that, Israel would be destroyed in a mere few elections, with the people who are currently living on that land...
That's a sure way to destroy Israel is short order.
Amen to that! Although, even what is today called Jordan was once promised to the Jews as per the League of Nations mandate (aka the British Mandate). How quickly the World forgets when it comes to God's chosen people!
You'll never see that (Israel expanding its borders out to that extent) in this current age (the Church Age). You will when you get into the Kingdom Age, though, but that's when the Messiah of Israel goes to war for Israel and against all its enemies and defeats all of them and expands the borders of Israel.
That's for another dispensation -- the Kingdom Age ... :-)
The only problem with that is when you incorporate a piece of land into your country -- you also get the people who are living there ... LOL
Guess you missed this part of my post: "For Arabs, anywhere else in the Middle East except Israel."
That obviously means that under my "two-state solution" there's be no Arabs living in the areas of Israel in question (Gaza, W. Bank, Sinai, etc.) -- they'd be physically moved. So there'd be no demographics concerns.
they'd be physically moved. So there'd be no demographics concerns.
Well, to be move "from somewhere" they have to move "to somewhere"...
And the big problem there is that you're not going to find any "takers" on receiving a large population of millions of Palestinians who love and support Islamic terrorism (face it, they've been born and bred for it over there) ... :-)
I mean, it sounds good "on paper" -- but in the real world, no country wants them (even other Muslim countries don't want them) and no country has to take them, either. So, Israel is basically stuck with them -- thus the quandary they are in.
Israel is stuck with them, as long as Israel controls the territories. If Israel doesn't want to be stuck with them, then their own country is the only other alternative.
Not willingly, that's for sure. My "two-state solution" would have to take place after a major war.
...where most of the displaced Arabs would end up in Jordan Or Egypt. ...whether the parties involved liked it or not.
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