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New Jersey Voters Reject 59 Percent Of School Budgets (Tea Party spreads to New Jersey)
WCBSTV.com ^ | 4/21/10 | Jay Dow

Posted on 04/21/2010 1:55:57 PM PDT by LdSentinal

TEANECK, N.J. (CBS) ― Click to enlarge1 of 1 New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie accuses a local district of sending information back home to ask how parents will vote on school budgets.

After months of heated debate and angry protests, New Jersey residents woke up Wednesday morning to see that a majority of the proposed school budgets were defeated Tuesday night.

In one of those towns – Teaneck – several hundred students held a protest on the high school track.

The New Jersey school budget vote will likely be remembered for Governor Chris Christie's deep involvement in the debate, and residents' reaction to it.

Parents who spoke to CBS 2 say they believe some of their neighbors entered the voting booth without the information needed to cast an informed vote.

"It's not a good thing, because there's a lot of programs now [that will] probably be cut," one Carlstadt resident said.

That's because it's now up to local governments to either revise or accept those rejected budgets. Voters ultimately rejected a little more than half – 59 percent – of the budget proposals for consideration.

One of those budgets was in Teaneck, where high school students protested Wednesdays morning and refused to enter the building.

"I wanted to make sure that everyone sees that we're serious about this," Teaneck junior Gerard Rice said. "I mean, we're not going to let this happen."

The governor cut more than $800 million in state educational aid and framed the budget issue around hard financial times. He also urged residents to knock down any local budget that did not come with an agreement from teachers to freeze their pay.

"I think it's good that it didn't pass," Carlstadt resident Denise Oehmlmann said. "I don't want the children to be hurt."

On Wednesday, Christie said voters are saying "they can no longer afford a government that wishes problems away."

But in Hackensack, the budget passed by almost a 2-to-1 margin. Schools Superintendent Edward Kliszus says the vote was "a great victory," and that it makes a bold statement.

"I believe that parents in Hackensack displaced themselves from the state politics and focused on their children," Dr. Kliszus said.

What happened in Hackensack was not a fluke, though. Though most NJ school budgets were rejected, 55 of Bergen County's 74 proposals passed.

In the coming weeks, local governments across the Garden State will either recommend changes to the rejected budgets, or ignore voters and decide to accept them as is.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: christie; educationfunding; newjersey; schools
70% of school budgets routinely pass in NJ. Only 41.3% passed this year.
1 posted on 04/21/2010 1:55:58 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Christie = the un-Crist.


2 posted on 04/21/2010 1:56:49 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: LdSentinal

“Yeah, don’t let the children get hurt.”
A common complaint of the democrats.
How about the senior citizens that get hurt when taxes are raised that they can no longer afford to pay?
Two school budgets were rejected in my township, I am proud to say. And I voted no on both of them. This is the first time I have voted in the school board elections.
It’s about time people woke up in this state.


3 posted on 04/21/2010 2:03:47 PM PDT by siamesecats (God closes one door, and opens another, to protect us.)
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To: LdSentinal

I hate to say this but the whole idea of voting on school budgets is a joke here in NJ. I have seen my own township somehow ‘manage’ to go against the wishes of the voters and give the school what it asked for.


4 posted on 04/21/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by trashcanbred2
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To: LdSentinal
What a biased article.
I wanted to make sure that everyone sees that we're serious about this,” Teaneck junior Gerard Rice said. “I mean, we're not going to let this happen.” “

Hey junior, how much in taxes do you pay?

5 posted on 04/21/2010 2:05:11 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: LdSentinal

Maybe we have been approaching school vouchers from the wrong front. Perhaps we should present it as a cost cutting measure. Parent of home schoolers and private schools get 60% of the average per student spent by the state. District gets 5% for testing and record keeping and the state reduces operations costs by 35%

[or some such percentages]


6 posted on 04/21/2010 2:05:25 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: siamesecats

How about those children that got hurt when the ‘rats raised taxes to the point that mom had to go to work?


7 posted on 04/21/2010 2:07:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: taxcontrol

I’ve heard that public schools are

REQUIRED

to spend 50-60k per “special needs” child.


8 posted on 04/21/2010 2:08:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: LdSentinal

They are worried about programs being cut. Which ones? Like maybe breakfast, lunch and dinner at school?

Keep reading, writing, math, science, history and geography. The krap such as environmental protection and politcal indoctrination can go. I’d even say physical fitness can be cut; if you don’t want your kid to grow up fat, take the Nintendo and Wii from him, make him get up off the couch and go out for a walk. And if the parents want organized sports, they can put together the teams. Why should taxpayer funds for education be used to pay for a new field or arena for the high schoolers to play sports in.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 2:08:25 PM PDT by fatnotlazy ("You ain't seen nothin' yet." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SmokingJoe

If I said something like that to my Dad as a kid, I was sure to get the belt.


10 posted on 04/21/2010 2:09:07 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: LdSentinal

Could someone explain what in the world this article is talking about? Is this an advisory vote? Those of us not in NJ could stand for a bit of edification.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 2:12:44 PM PDT by Grn_Lantern (Let's go to work....)
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To: fatnotlazy

Here in S Jersey it seemed like 90% of the budgets were failing when I checked on line.

Teachers are getting fired as well as facing pay pressure. In most cases administrators atre not taking any real cuts, and NJ school districts are incredibly top heavy.

There has to be fiscal control, we can’t keep spending the moon. But there will be a backlash at some point as classes get larger and quality suffers.


12 posted on 04/21/2010 2:13:06 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: LdSentinal

Simple. Only those who voted ‘YES’ have their property taxes raised. Care to vote again?


13 posted on 04/21/2010 2:19:28 PM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: LdSentinal

“Parents who spoke to CBS 2 say they believe some of their neighbors entered the voting booth without the information needed to cast an informed vote.”

I strongly disagree. With all the focus on the school budget, people are probably more informed than they’ve ever been. Which is why they voted them down.

Liberals are invested in making sure people don’t understand the real issues. Which is why controlling the MSM is SO important to them. When people really listen, understand, and take their time, they usually side with the right.


14 posted on 04/21/2010 2:20:17 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: LdSentinal

It is admirable to see such concern for the children’s education from the Democrats but it is a shame we no longer have the tax-base,due to some of their other policies,to pay for it.


15 posted on 04/21/2010 2:31:11 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: LdSentinal

It looks to me that the majority of the teachers would fail economics 101. Unfortunately you can see the outcome by the remarks of the kids.


16 posted on 04/21/2010 2:42:03 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Del Rapier

Here in NJ there was also a record turnout for the school budget vote. The folks here woke up and sent Corzine packing and now they are going to take control of their local school budgets too. The Tea Party is alive and well.


17 posted on 04/21/2010 2:43:16 PM PDT by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: LdSentinal

“I wanted to make sure that everyone sees that we’re serious about this,” Teaneck junior Gerard Rice said. “I mean, we’re not going to let this happen.”

What are you gonna do, boycott schools? Pay for it yourself?


18 posted on 04/21/2010 2:59:50 PM PDT by ebshumidors (Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: LdSentinal; All
The same thing happened in Florida this last month. The Republican legislature passed a law that gave more money to science and math teachers, more money to teachers who teach in "underserved" areas...but ALSO required teachers to show acceptable progress in teaching kids.

Tenured teachers got to keep tenure, but new teachers hired after 2013, I think, HAD NO TENURE...they had to show progress to get a raise.

Teachers could double their pay within four years, but there was no tenure.

Teacher unions went crazy, kids were lied to, and BOOM. Crist the girlieman vetoed the bill after saying he was supporting the bill.

19 posted on 04/21/2010 3:04:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: LdSentinal

...but you think the do nothings in our school system are worth the billions we’re dumping in?


20 posted on 04/21/2010 3:06:30 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: LdSentinal

Here in Passaic County most of them were defeated....


21 posted on 04/21/2010 3:16:28 PM PDT by njslim
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To: MrB

I don’t have recent stats, but in the late 1990’s the average per intensive special needs pupil was costing NJ about $43k a year.

This has been a long tradition in NJ, and as is always the case with subsidies like this, it has attracted large numbers of households with special needs children to move in to NJ, that alongside the one year wait for pre-existing conditions and no lifetime cap on health insurance benefits has created towns such as Toms River. Which now has possibly the largest cluster of autism spectrum children in a single school district in North America.

The parents of the autism children were demanding that it be explained by environmental variables such as pollution, it turned out several generations of genetically pre-disposed to autism spectrum disorders families have been moving in to the town since the early 1970’s when they opened their special needs program catering to autism spectrum children.


22 posted on 04/21/2010 3:17:45 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: siamesecats
This sounds a lot like various cities/counties when cutting budgets come around: "we must cut fire, police, 911 and emergency services if we're to balance the budget," never, "let's cut excess staff, perks and junkets for elected and staff."

Does this sound a lot like your kids when you inform them that you have to cut expenses to make sound decisions with a recent pay cut, "we can't cut cable, dinners out, personal cell phones for the kiddies," not to mention making them pay their own car ins. if they're going to drive.

Oh no, our elected class are always willing to threaten us with a loss of emergency services should we need to tighten our collective belt but never willing to give up their personal cell phones, credit cards and trips to exotic locales during winter as it's "necessary to function" rather than going to a local convention center to hold "fact-finding seminars."

Time to tell those living on our dollars, that they can just get by with less -- and NOT give up the essentials or we can find others who will do it for them!

23 posted on 04/21/2010 3:34:16 PM PDT by zerosix (native Sunflower)
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To: LdSentinal

Yes. And only a week ago the Gannet newspapers reported that a majority of New Jerseyans disapproved of Christie’s efforts to reign in the teacher’s union. I guess they were polling any New Jerseyan and not voting New Jerseyans.

Who the heck cares what people think who do not vote?


24 posted on 04/21/2010 3:49:31 PM PDT by dools007
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To: JPG
Simple. Only those who voted ‘YES’ have their property taxes raised.

Now there's a damn good idea!

25 posted on 04/21/2010 3:57:47 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: LdSentinal
"I think it's good that it didn't pass," Carlstadt resident Denise Oehmlmann said. "I don't want the children to be hurt."

...until they are adults and have to pay for all of this.

26 posted on 04/21/2010 4:27:26 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Williams

“But there will be a backlash at some point as classes get larger and quality suffers.”

There will be a backlash. From the unions. From the parents, no.


27 posted on 04/21/2010 4:34:38 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: LdSentinal
"I wanted to make sure that everyone sees that we're serious about this," Teaneck junior Gerard Rice said. "I mean, we're not going to let this happen."

What you going to do about it.

How about Vote !!!

Oh' you're not old enough to even vote so STFU

Little Marxist in the making

28 posted on 04/21/2010 4:46:41 PM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: LdSentinal
The one guy said we entered the voting booth
“without the proper knowledge to make a decision” or something like that-translation I voted no because I am ignorant.

Teachers refuse to freeze their salaries instead of taking a 4 1/2 % raise, while I consider myself extremely fortunate to have received a 2.1% raise last year.

Half of my raise was taken away by an increase in my Medical contribution-the other half by an increase in my property taxes. Meanwhile, the Union balks at the request of Christie that teachers contribute a measly 1.5% towards their medical.

I had all the knowledge I need to make an educated decision.

This was by the way the first time since 1976 that more than 1/2 of the budgets were voted down. The public is in an ornery mood- so in your own words Mr Obama, if you want a VAT tax- “go for it”, it will be the fight of your life, and the fight of mine. Liberty is both political and economic, and you have taken enough of both-enough is enough!

29 posted on 04/21/2010 4:50:22 PM PDT by pineybill (`)
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To: LdSentinal
"It's not a good thing, because there's a lot of programs now [that will] probably be cut," one Carlstadt resident said.

Fine then, if you feel that way you scumbag "Carlstadt resident", get out your own checkbook and write a big check to the teachers union.

30 posted on 04/21/2010 4:55:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SmokingJoe

It’s already happened, you little twerp.


31 posted on 04/22/2010 6:54:34 AM PDT by goldi (')
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