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Palinís Sound Bite Foreign Policy [Jourbalist Marcia: Obama brilliant, Palin stupid]
Frum Forum ^ | April 21, 2010 | Marcia Smilack

Posted on 04/21/2010 10:26:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Seated on the same side of an antique table before a large audience, Presidents Barack Obama and Dimitri Medvedev smile at one another as they exchange documents encased in red and black leather folders. The new START treaty has been signed, completing a journey Obama began when he visited the Czech Republic a year ago and announced his intention to begin ridding the world of nuclear weapons. He has reset relations between Russia and the United States and fulfilled a dream of another American President: Ronald Reagan. The cold war is over. Back in America, the former half-term governor of Alaska decries the horror of Obama’s achievement by invoking the Gipper:

"We miss Ronald Reagan who used to say, when he would look at our enemies, he would say: ‘No. You lose. We win.’ That’s what we miss. And that is what we have to get back to,” says Sarah Palin. Compacting her historical error, she adds: ‘No administration in America’s history would, I think, ever have considered such a step.’

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos thinks her historically inaccurate remarks are important, so in an interview with President Obama he asks: “Sarah Palin said you’re like a kid who says, ‘Punch me in the face, and I’m not going to retaliate.’ Your response?”

“I really have no response,” Obama answers at first. A full moment passes before he completes his thought. “Because last I checked, Sarah Palin’s not much of an expert on nuclear issues.” His half-smile is not mocking, it is reluctant, the look of a man who has made the best of a bad question while pointing out a simple truth.

Palin’s comments on START reveal a disturbing truth; that when she doesn’t have an expert to tell her what to think, all she can do is recite the factoids that were drilled into her during the campaign. Switch to the GOP Southern Leadership Council where Palin is seething. Without Randy Scheunemann to advise on foreign affairs, she has to wing it. She reaches in and pulls out a card from the past:

“With all the vast nuclear experience he acquired as a community organizer, a part time Senator and a full time candidate, all that experience and still no accomplishment to date with North Korea and Iran.”

She retaliates like an Israeli commando, striking back twice as hard as she is hit, and yet there is a new element that is decidedly odd. Why is she speaking in campaign slogans from two years ago? Obama has been commander in chief for over a year, a period in which he has met or spoken with the Russian President sixteen times to personally negotiate details of the treaty.

Can it be that her real beef is not about policy, but the suggestion that she knows less than he?

Obama studied non-proliferation long before running for office. His college thesis at Columbia was called “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament.” He spoke passionately on the subject on the campaign trail in 2004. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama took his first trip as U.S. Senator in 2005 to Russia, Ukraine and Azerbaijan to examine facilities for the storage and destruction of conventional, biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons. He co-authored the “Lugar-Obama Non-proliferation Initiative,” which enhanced U.S. efforts to destroy conventional weapons stockpiles and detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction throughout the world. This legislation was signed into law by President Bush in January 2007.

So why is Palin picking a fight with someone above her weight belt? The answer can be found in revelations from the McCain campaign’s senior staff. Assigned the job of prepping her for upcoming interviews and debates, they became apoplectic when they realized her dearth of knowledge on world affairs. To assuage their fears, Palin relayed that she could memorize facts quickly if they wrote them down on note cards.

Although she could memorize facts, she lacked an ability to conceptualize or use the information in alternative contexts, a problem most evident in her failed interviews where she answered specific questions with the wrong string of facts. It is not surprising that one of her contractual demands in her new persona as professional speaker is that no question be asked of her that has not been prescreened by staff. She uses campaign-speak to attack Obama because that is the memorized card she has pulled for the current situation, even though it has no relevance.

Compare the qualities of Sarah Palin’s dependence on note cards to how Dmitri Medvedev described Obama to George Stephanopoulos:

STEPHANOPOULOS: What do you make of Barack Obama the man?

MEDVEDEV: He’s very comfortable partner, it’s very interesting to be with him. The most important thing that distinguishes him from many other people . . . he’s a thinker, he thinks when he speaks. Which is already pretty good. He’s eager to listen to his partner, which is a pretty good quality for a politician. Because any politician is to a certain degree a mentor. They preach something. And the ability to listen to their partner is very important for the politician. And he is pretty deeply immersed in the subject, so he has a good knowledge of what he’s talking about. There was no instance in our meetings with Mr. Obama where he wasn’t well prepared for the questions. This is very good.”

The Russian leader isn’t wrong; whether you agree with Obama’s policies or not, you cannot dispute that Barack Obama is a thinker, while Sarah Palin – “like many other people” — is not. It’s an important difference.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: frum; frum4bho; frum4dnc; frum4obama; frum4rinos; frum4romney; frumantigop; frumantipalin; frumthrewelection; nuclearweapons; obama; palin; pds; romney; romneyantigop; romneyantipalin; sarahpalin
She scares them spitless, or they'd ignore her. BTW, can anyone link to this thesis she refers to? I didn't think we had any of his college stuff.
1 posted on 04/21/2010 10:26:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Patrick1

Your $100 is safe.


2 posted on 04/21/2010 10:31:07 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the Frum Forum

Frum the original Palin hater.


3 posted on 04/21/2010 10:31:19 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marcia, if you think this president is competent in foreign policy...wow. Just wow.


4 posted on 04/21/2010 10:32:05 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pfffftt. ;) My standard response to anyone/anything seeping forth from that ever-bubbling cauldron of imbecility, the Frum Forum:

'Nuff Said. ;)

5 posted on 04/21/2010 10:32:28 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 04/21/2010 10:37:08 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She scares them spitless, or they’d ignore her
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Exactly. She has actually already triumphed by sticking around and making an impact, drawing crowds and earning big money. Her detractors on both sides are so bitter it’s hilarious.


7 posted on 04/21/2010 10:37:26 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Smell the fear...


8 posted on 04/21/2010 10:37:43 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG! They defend their view of Palin by asking the RUSSIAN Prez for his opinion of the OBIE WAN KANOBIE? Nothing like asking your adversaries for an endorsement! Sort of proves the pudding of the Palin comment.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 10:39:07 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No administration in America’s history would, I think, ever have considered such a step.’

Ummm Mr Frum or whoever the heck you are, Sarah Palin’s “No other administration would have considered such a step” statement had nothing to do with the treaty with Russia. It was about 0bama’s declaration that he would never use nuclear weapons against any country that attacked us with biological and chemical weapons.
As a matter of fact, subsequent polls showed that the overwhelming majority of Americans agreed with Sarah Palin ion this one, and totally disagreed with 0bama's position.
When is the Canadian weasel David Frum, and his cowardly pals at his site, going to start telling the truth even once for a change?

10 posted on 04/21/2010 10:41:36 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ABC News political director is Mark Halperin. Halperin’s father is none other than Morton H. Halperin, head of George Soros’ Open Society Policy Center.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 10:41:44 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

Oh what a web they weave....


12 posted on 04/21/2010 10:42:51 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
they became apoplectic when they realized her dearth of knowledge on world affairs.

Yet only Obama knows that Austrians actually speak Austrian.

13 posted on 04/21/2010 10:45:44 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: SoCalPol; antceecee
Martha is a "Reflectionist" in Art. PHOTO and a PHONE NUMBER here.
14 posted on 04/21/2010 10:46:14 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin treats Israel as a friend and ally. B.O. treats them like an incredible nuisance.

Now which one has a better grasp of foreign policy?

I'm still expecting for Obamas next foreign policy initiative to be , send Jimmy Carter to Iran as a special peace envoy.

15 posted on 04/21/2010 10:46:23 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: SoCalPol; antceecee

LOL. I guess it’s Marcia, not Martha...lol.
Confusion: lives in MA, ya know?


16 posted on 04/21/2010 10:47:44 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Compare the qualities of Sarah Palin’s dependence on note cards to how Dmitri Medvedev described Obama to George Stephanopoulos

Compare how Sarah Palin is able to ad-lib and make full speeches without even the hint of a teleprompter, to 0bama who can't even address a bunch of 6th graders without a teleprompter.



17 posted on 04/21/2010 10:48:35 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: onyx

Hey... hey... photographer.... Why don’t they ever say what they mean and mean what they say? First sign of a LIB... infantile exaggeration of who they are, what they do and what they believe.


18 posted on 04/21/2010 10:50:46 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Who the heck is that seven foot RINO? Gotta get that one out of office quick! LOL!


19 posted on 04/21/2010 10:52:20 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Her pedigree prevents her from liking Sarah, so she’s not fooling anyone with her “essay.” She’s just writing to please her likeminded friends.
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PhD With Distinction, English Literature
Brown University, Providence, Rhode Island, 1979

BA With Distinction In Major (English)

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University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin, 1971


20 posted on 04/21/2010 10:54:12 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: onyx
Whatever her name... she has those runaway bride crazy eyes... or at least crazy smile... spells Koolaid drinker to me. ; ~ )
21 posted on 04/21/2010 10:54:53 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

LOL. You’re right!!!


22 posted on 04/21/2010 10:55:57 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: antceecee
Who the heck is that seven foot RINO?

Every now and then, John McCain enjoys relaxing around the house in a nice pair of stiletto pumps. Don't tell a soul. ;)

23 posted on 04/21/2010 10:55:59 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: onyx

Oh my BROWN... now I am so impressed (not)!


24 posted on 04/21/2010 10:56:47 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Now that there is a funny comment! LOL!


25 posted on 04/21/2010 10:57:55 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She retaliates like an Israeli commando, striking back twice as hard as she is hit

She's my type of leader!

26 posted on 04/21/2010 11:10:54 PM PDT by skookum55
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To: onyx

Brown is where you go when no one else takes you.

An English - Art person. That makes her an expert on politics , world affairs and can bash Palin.


27 posted on 04/21/2010 11:12:07 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL A journalist who only writes from talking points making a statement like that. It’s absurd.


28 posted on 04/21/2010 11:13:33 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: onyx
Not all Badgers are liberal twits. When I was a freshman and joined the College Republicans, there were about a dozen of us -- on a campus of 36,000.

BS With Plenty of Beer, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin, 1977.

29 posted on 04/21/2010 11:17:35 PM PDT by skookum55
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To: SoCalPol

LOL. Yes, another expert.


30 posted on 04/21/2010 11:19:22 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: skookum55

LOL. I hear ya, and Brown is likely worse!


31 posted on 04/21/2010 11:20:58 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: SmokingJoe

It was about 0bama’s declaration that he would never use nuclear weapons against any country that attacked us with biological ..


The article is a blatent attempt to mis-state Sarah’s criticism to put her on the wrong side of public opinion. Most people think we should negotiate nuclear treaties with Russia while most also think we shouldn’t telegraph our responses to our adversaries while tying our hands behind our back. These moles have been shaping Republican policy for years, but now they are exposed to the light and we know who they are. All they can do now is repeat over and over that Sarah is stupid while she proves each day how brilliant she is.


32 posted on 04/21/2010 11:23:57 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He has reset relations between Russia and the United States and fulfilled a dream of another American President: Ronald Reagan. The cold war is over.

And it has been for twenty years. What's the author's point other than to bash Sarah Palin?

33 posted on 04/22/2010 1:26:38 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
What's the author's point other than to bash Sarah Palin?

For the truly mad and staring anti-Palin fanatic -- whether at the Frum Forum, or right here on the FR boards -- the rabid need to froth and snarl and spew at the very mention of her name IS "the point," in and of itself.

Not a dime's edge worth of difference between them and the typical DUmmie or KOStard, in that regard.

34 posted on 04/22/2010 1:36:29 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
So Obie writes a paper then visits a plant and he becomes an expert. Ha!

Political opportunist that he is I suspect what really happened with the Lugar initiative is he had his name stuck on it at the last minute after the heavy lifting had been done.

In any event, for someone with all this "education" he certainly doesn't seem to have learned very much. And FWIW, Mrs. Palin receives regular national security briefings which is more that be said for the Poser in Chief.

35 posted on 04/22/2010 2:00:32 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Obie Wan Nairobi from the 1/2 dark side. The farce strong with this one, it is...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She wants Palin to use more words, huh.
36 posted on 04/22/2010 2:05:26 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These fools at Frum Forum better be careful or they’ll be forced to support a one term president running for re-election in 2012.


37 posted on 04/22/2010 2:55:18 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Obama is the first president to have two autobiographies written about himself by the age of 45.

38 posted on 04/22/2010 2:56:55 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He has reset relations between Russia and the United States and fulfilled a dream of another American President: Ronald Reagan. The cold war is over.

Reagan believed in "Peace through strength".  When Gorbachev was dismantling their arsenal, Reagan was shuffling and ramping up ours.

Reagan wasn't naive like this bunch is. In fact, RWR wouldn't bow down to the people Obozo bows down to.  I have reason to believe Reagan wouldn't have given those eggheads the time of day.

These people on the left believe that if we don't attack terrorists, they'll leave us alone.  I have no doubt that Reagan would have believed that a good terrorist is a dead terrorist.

The only Reagan that Obozo comes close to emulating is Ron, Jr.  Although Obozo is a much better actor than The Ballerina.

39 posted on 04/22/2010 3:06:21 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: Rummyfan

The left has been comparing Obozo to Reagan to tear down Palin and to stifle Obozo’s critics.


40 posted on 04/22/2010 3:09:07 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I really have no response,” Obama answers at first. A full moment passes before he completes his thought. “Because last I checked, Sarah Palin’s not much of an expert on nuclear issues.” His half-smile is not mocking, it is reluctant, the look of a man who has made the best of a bad question while pointing out a simple truth.

What an IDIOT!

Does he REALLY think that folks think that HE has any 'expertise' on nuclear issues either?

(How long is a HALF of a moment?)

41 posted on 04/22/2010 4:50:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Sarah is a rare phenomenon. She is regularly trashed by conservatives here on FR because they don't consider her conservative at all. The left always trashes her because she is conservative. When the left attacks her almost everyone on FR jumps to her defense, even some of those who, otherwise, regularly criticize her. It's fun to watch...
42 posted on 04/22/2010 4:51:56 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: TheThinker
Yet only Obama knows that Austrians actually speak Austrian.

Oh?

In ALL of it's 57 states?

Even along it's border with Spain?

43 posted on 04/22/2010 4:52:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Frum Forum? There aren't many I dislike more than that lying rat in the corn crib Frum. Pisses me off every time that bowel infection calls himself a conservative.
44 posted on 04/22/2010 4:53:34 AM PDT by GBA
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To: skookum55
 
Not all Badgers are liberal twits.

 

 

 
 


45 posted on 04/22/2010 4:55:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The blather of yet another mouthpiece of the Ministry of Propaganda - aka the MSM.


46 posted on 04/22/2010 5:16:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

About that thesis....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obamas_missing_thesis_1.asp


47 posted on 04/22/2010 5:48:21 AM PDT by tencole
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
BTW, can anyone link to this thesis she refers to? I didn't think we had any of his college stuff.

Well, of course all his collage stuff had been 'sealed' don'tcha know. That way, in instances like this one, he can just have a thesis whipped up by a pro and say that it is his. After all, seems that NO ONE remembers him from their collage days either.

48 posted on 04/22/2010 10:00:22 AM PDT by alexandria ("If this be treason, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Putin ate the guy alive.


49 posted on 04/23/2010 11:26:41 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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