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Congressman Seeks to Expand EPA's Control of Water
Foxnews.com ^ | 4/22/10 | Brian Wilson

Posted on 04/23/2010 8:55:11 AM PDT by ICAB9USA

A Democratic congressman is seeking to strip the word "navigable" from the 1972 Clean Water Act to allow the Environmental Protection Agency to surpass the limits imposed by a 2001 Supreme Court ruling on the kinds of waterways the agency can regulate. A Democratic congressman is seeking to strip the word "navigable" from the 1972 Clean Water Act to allow the Environmental Protection Agency to surpass the limits imposed by a 2001 Supreme Court ruling on the kinds of waterways the agency can regulate.

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Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn --- what a complete turd.

This is possibly very, very evil, dangerous, and all-encompassing legislation.

1 posted on 04/23/2010 8:55:11 AM PDT by ICAB9USA
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To: ICAB9USA

2 posted on 04/23/2010 8:57:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States … shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: ICAB9USA

It’s my understanding that in Maryland, citizens, on their own property, do NOT own water that is in the ground.


3 posted on 04/23/2010 8:57:39 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight!!")
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To: ICAB9USA
The Dems are completely out of control. They are trying to jam their socialist wish list into two years time since they know they'll be toast after this year. Hopefully the GOP is up to rolling back a lot of this garbage.
4 posted on 04/23/2010 8:58:03 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (ClimateScandal.org)
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To: ICAB9USA

Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn - TARGET!


5 posted on 04/23/2010 8:58:28 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Diogenesis
looks like taxes on the rise for some products:


6 posted on 04/23/2010 8:58:48 AM PDT by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: ICAB9USA
From S. 787

Official Summary 4/2/2009--Introduced.Clean Water Restoration Act - Amends the Federal Water Pollution Control Act (commonly known as the Clean Water Act) to replace the term "navigable waters" that are subject to such Act with the term "waters of the United States," defined to mean all waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing, to the fullest extent that these waters, or activities affecting them, are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution. Declares that nothing in such Act affects the authority of the Secretary of the Army or the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under the provisions of the Clean Water Act related to discharges: (1) composed entirely of return flows from irrigated agriculture; (2) of stormwater runoff from certain oil, gas, and mining operations composed entirely of flows from precipitation runoff conveyances, which are not contaminated by or in contact with specified materials; (3) of dredged or fill materials resulting from normal farming, silviculture, and ranching activities, from upland soil and water conservation practices, or from activities with respect to which a state has an approved water quality regulatory program; or (4) of dredged or fill materials for the maintenance of currently serviceable structures, the construction or maintenance of farm or stock ponds, irrigation ditches and maintenance of drainage ditches, or farm, forest, or temporary roads for moving mining equipment in accordance with best management practices, or the construction of temporary sedimentation basins on construction sites for which discharges do not include placement of fill material into the waters of the United States.

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The new legislation wants control of all properties that may adjoin these "bodies of water".

Unreal.

7 posted on 04/23/2010 8:59:05 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: incredulous joe

Unbelievable.


8 posted on 04/23/2010 8:59:37 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: C210N

Woman, children, and ..... birds hit hardest.


9 posted on 04/23/2010 8:59:50 AM PDT by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Hopefully the GOP is up to rolling back a lot of this garbage.

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That will not be easy.

10 posted on 04/23/2010 9:00:24 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: ICAB9USA
Wow, this Communists Party (formally the Democratic Party) are on a roll. Not much left to America and we will be cooked by November and the election won't matter a damn bit. King Obama, with the support of almost half of Americans, has destroyed American and will never come back. So stop dreaming.
11 posted on 04/23/2010 9:03:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: ICAB9USA
I have a natural pond on my property.

I.Dare.You.

12 posted on 04/23/2010 9:05:59 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Diogenesis
re: Congressman Seeks to Expand EPA's Control of Water

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Control this, Oberstar ...........

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13 posted on 04/23/2010 9:10:04 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: Repeat Offender
I have a natural pond on my property.

... better camouflage that.

;-)

14 posted on 04/23/2010 9:11:05 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: ICAB9USA

Someone should invite the congresscritter on a fishing trip, complete with new footware, and we can see how well control of water is done from 6 ft. under.


15 posted on 04/23/2010 9:15:42 AM PDT by mapmaker77
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To: incredulous joe

The government will attempt to put meters on peoples wells and charge them for the water. If they do that, they can pay me the $20,000 that it cost to put in my well and pay for all maintenance of my pumps and holding tanks. These people are crazy and are going to have a fight on their hands.


16 posted on 04/23/2010 9:16:54 AM PDT by RC2
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To: incredulous joe

Maryland, the entire state, is either a bay critical zone or an ocean critical zone... with few exceptions, all regulated by wetland restrictions and army corps of engineers... it is bad.

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17 posted on 04/23/2010 9:20:51 AM PDT by teeman8r (anarchy is preferred over tyranny)
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To: ICAB9USA

The next “Global Warming”.


18 posted on 04/23/2010 9:21:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: mapmaker77

They’re going to push it to that point.


19 posted on 04/23/2010 9:22:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ICAB9USA
IF they get their way, we become serfs living on the Kings land again.
20 posted on 04/23/2010 9:22:50 AM PDT by PogySailor (We're so screwed.....welcome to the American Oligarchy)
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To: Repeat Offender

i had a drainage ditch that was deemed a wetland of special state (md) concern... and a 100 foot buffer that i was in non compliance with...

i asked if it was 50 feet on each side... and was told 100 ft on each side... i said it sounded like a 200 feet buffer...

this is out of hand.

teeman


21 posted on 04/23/2010 9:23:37 AM PDT by teeman8r (NO vember is coming... vote them out)
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To: ICAB9USA

The original was bad enough. Now they want to control every drop from your tap.

Honest to God, in any other nation these folks would be hog tied and hung from the nearest yard-arm.

This person should be on a November election focus alert. Kick his butt to the curb.


22 posted on 04/23/2010 9:25:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: Bitsy

AKA “Jimmy Bikeshorts” here in MN.

(he loves pork for bike trails everywhere in MN)

So what of Minnesota’s delegation? The Pig’s Book searchable database on House members

(Senate will come later) shows the following:

http://www.cagw.org/reports/pig-book/2010/pork-database.html

District 1: Tim Walz (DFL)

13 earmarks worth $9.7 million

Lowlight: $200,000 for soybean genomics

District 2: John Kline (GOP)

NONE

District 3: Erik Paulsen (GOP)

9 earmarks worth $7.5 million

Lowlight: The fact that Paulsen would seek earmarks at all

District 4: Betty McCollum (DFL)

14 earmarks worth $8.7 million

Lowlight: $200,000 for a neighborhood development center

District 5: Keith Ellison (DFL)

18 earmarks worth $23 million

Lowlight: $150,000 to refurbish the Coe Mansion (whatever that is)

District 6: Michele Bachmann (GOP)

NONE

District 7: Collin Peterson (DFL)

10 earmarks worth $13.7 million

Lowlight: $550,000 for the Center for Rural Entrepreneurial Studies.

Aren’t entrepreneurs folks who create wealth WITHOUT government help?

District 8: Jimmy Bikeshorts Oberstar (DFL)

33 earmarks worth over $72 million

Lowlight: Oberstar’s blatant disregard for America’s future as evidenced by his relentless efforts to waste billions on his pet pork projects. This guy has no shame.


23 posted on 04/23/2010 9:25:41 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: Diogenesis

Wow! Return of the Pharmer Phil sign. Aw, memories.


24 posted on 04/23/2010 9:27:10 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Bitsy

He’s from the Iron Range.
It’s a safe socialist district in NE Minnesota.


25 posted on 04/23/2010 9:28:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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It’s a safe socialist district in NE Minnesota.

That is truly a shame.


26 posted on 04/23/2010 9:30:09 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: ICAB9USA

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Power mad.


27 posted on 04/23/2010 9:30:24 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: ICAB9USA
... better camouflage that.

No need. I just need to put up signs that say "danger minefield."

28 posted on 04/23/2010 9:36:33 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: ICAB9USA

Minnesota, land of 10,000 lakes.....could there be a connection?!?


29 posted on 04/23/2010 9:36:49 AM PDT by TMD (Sometimes people say the wrong things, just remember, they really meant to say the right thing.)
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To: ICAB9USA

Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn -— what a complete turd.
This is possibly very, very evil, dangerous, and all-encompassing legislation.’

That barely describes this kind of language.

EPA in accountable to no one. They are not elected. They have been running roughshod over the American public for years.

In the Western parts of the country, there are a vast number of stock ‘watering ponds’ which are fed with rain water & snowmelt that flows down the watershed. Take a rancher with 5000 acres of cattle and he has these ponds all over his land.
Under this kind of ruling, he would have no control over the use of the rain or snowmelt and would be unable to raise the cattle that support his family and feed the world.

The EPA is imbedded with people who believe in Earth FIrst & Wildlands Project.
They are determined to destroy America’s ranches & farms.

If YOU have a rain barrel on your property that catches the rain from your gutter/downspout and use it for your garden, you would no longer be able to do so.

They also do NOT want any of us to raise our own veggies, etc.

If you try to put in a diversion to keep your driveway from washing out, you will be under the EPA for permission to do so.


30 posted on 04/23/2010 9:57:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RC2

The government will attempt to put meters on peoples wells and charge them for the water”

They are already attempting that here in Nevada-—and Dirty Harry Reid is behind it all.

He is trying to tie up all the water in N Nevada so the Southern Nevada Water Authority can buy the water for Las Vegas. He intends to turn N Nevada into a dust bowl.


31 posted on 04/23/2010 10:01:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The money grants to build all the bike trails & paths in Madison have created a big problem.

The grant money requires that all the pathways are kept maintained at all times.

Have you any idea how difficult it is to plow the snow from these surfaces in the winter? Streets are not plowed, but the bike paths get priority.


32 posted on 04/23/2010 10:04:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: teeman8r

i had a drainage ditch that was deemed a wetland of special state (md) concern... and a 100 foot buffer that i was in non compliance with...

i asked if it was 50 feet on each side... and was told 100 ft on each side... i said it sounded like a 200 feet buffer...

this is out of hand.””””

Prove how little MATH anyone is learning in school.


33 posted on 04/23/2010 10:05:33 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ICAB9USA

This is scary that they think they should control all of the water. Is this how they will kill us off by not allowing us water?


34 posted on 04/23/2010 10:18:54 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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35 posted on 04/23/2010 10:22:21 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ICAB9USA
The term is "Democrat", not "Democratic".

Would you "journalists" please get your heads out of rectal deflade and use the correct words and spellings?

36 posted on 04/23/2010 10:27:15 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: ICAB9USA

The House controls the purse strings....The GOP, once they regain control, should defund alot of this crap passed by the donkeys.


37 posted on 04/23/2010 10:27:28 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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To: DoughtyOne; RC2
The original was bad enough. Now they want to control every drop from your tap. Honest to God, in any other nation these folks would be hog tied and hung from the nearest yard-arm. This person should be on a November election focus alert. Kick his butt to the curb.

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I swear that I think it is too late for (just) the election solution.

38 posted on 04/23/2010 10:37:19 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: ICAB9USA

I hope you are wrong, but I’m not risking my wealth to bet against your take on it. ;-)


39 posted on 04/23/2010 10:39:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: ridesthemiles
In the Western parts of the country, there are a vast number of stock ‘watering ponds’ which are fed with rain water & snowmelt that flows down the watershed. Take a rancher with 5000 acres of cattle and he has these ponds all over his land. Under this kind of ruling, he would have no control over the use of the rain or snowmelt and would be unable to raise the cattle that support his family and feed the world. The EPA is imbedded with people who believe in Earth FIrst & Wildlands Project. They are determined to destroy America’s ranches & farms.

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.... trust me. I understand. I raise plants with much rain water.

40 posted on 04/23/2010 10:40:09 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: ICAB9USA

Relax, everything is under COMPLETE CONTROL.

It’s really becoming laughable, these Marxists, socialists, collectivists, and other-ists. 2010 will go down in history as the “Year of Control.”


41 posted on 04/23/2010 10:42:34 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: ronnyquest
re: It’s really becoming laughable, these Marxists, socialists, collectivists, and other-ists. 2010 will go down in history as the “Year of Control.”

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.... maybe you're laughing.

I am not.

42 posted on 04/23/2010 10:46:37 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep quite so much ...............)
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To: bamahead
First of all, I knew it was a Demonsocialist at the headline.

Government isn't for us, they're against us.

WHERE IS THE GOVERNMENT
THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US?


43 posted on 04/23/2010 10:56:02 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Double your income... Fire the government)
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To: ICAB9USA

Everything they are doing is designed to strip the middle class of any ability to resist government dependency.


44 posted on 04/23/2010 10:58:30 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: ICAB9USA

“Congressman Seeks to Expand EPA’s Control of Water “ - - - and everything else.


45 posted on 04/23/2010 11:00:01 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: ICAB9USA

The EPA and the UN need to be defunded. What a waste of money.


46 posted on 04/23/2010 11:00:42 AM PDT by CommonJudge (Captions on, for the hearing impaired, haha)
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To: ICAB9USA

Nixon is forever culpable for the EPA and the damage it has wreaked on the economy and our freedom. One of the worst presidents in history. And yes, a progressive Republican.


47 posted on 04/23/2010 11:07:29 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Have the pubbies EVER rolled back any such Rat legislation? Of course not. They keep it going and perpetually run against it. Remember that the EPA was a gift to us from Richard Nixon... A (dare I say it?) pubbie.


48 posted on 04/23/2010 11:16:13 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: PogySailor
IF they get their way, we become serfs living on the Kings land again.

sorry, but the property taxes alone 'deem' my dwelling place to be the kings...not to mention the water, electric, garbage etc that are controlled &/or denied without tribute and a 'pretty please yer majesty'...

49 posted on 04/23/2010 11:29:33 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: ICAB9USA

Laughing to keep from crying, as the saying goes. Feel free to browse my other posts to get my take on the whole situation.


50 posted on 04/23/2010 11:31:21 AM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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