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Obama says auto bailouts have paid off
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Posted on 04/24/2010 3:36:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Obama says auto bailouts have paid off Photo 6:09am EDT

By Steve Holland

ASHEVILLE, North Carolina (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Saturday taxpayer-funded bailouts of the auto industry that he approved had paid off, in what amounted to a rejection of conservative arguments against such government help.

In his weekly radio and Web address, Obama kept up the pressure for an overhaul of U.S. financial regulations, saying the promising news from the auto industry had not reduced the need for Wall Street changes.

Government bailouts of Wall Street, begun by then-President George W. Bush in 2008 and continued by Obama, have come under heavy criticism from conservatives who feel the government is spending too much money and that big firms should be allowed to fail.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; bailout; bailouts; bho44; flimflamman; followthemoney; funnymoney; gm; gmbailout; gmloan; gmuaw; governmentmotors; obama; obamanomics; obamathecannibal; tarp; uawbailout
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Laughable.........
1 posted on 04/24/2010 3:36:54 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

You Lie mr president


2 posted on 04/24/2010 3:38:12 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I agree...HAR HAR HAR HAR at him!


3 posted on 04/24/2010 3:39:56 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, that explains the push with all the “GM PAID BACK LOANS FIVE YEARS EARLY!” mantra we heard all last week.

It must be nice to have a propoganda arm of the government.


4 posted on 04/24/2010 3:41:17 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Sub-Driver

My left pocket paid off my right pocket. Oh boy. I feel so much better now.


5 posted on 04/24/2010 3:42:31 AM PDT by Mark was here (Fighting for freedom is never easy, especially when your enemies are merely fighting for free stuff.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Let's see....it cost the taxpayers approximately $30 billion, we're on the hook for another $27 billion in pension liabilities, and GM is still losing money hands over fists still heading towards bankruptcy. And this is their idea of a success story? No wonder we have $12 trillion in debt.
6 posted on 04/24/2010 3:50:15 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Mark was here

Exactly. My take home pay didn’t change, did yours?


7 posted on 04/24/2010 3:50:50 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Sub-Driver

Tell that to the bond holders ...


8 posted on 04/24/2010 3:59:57 AM PDT by maggief (Not everything is what it seems.)
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To: maggief

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! First the guvmint steals GM from it’s owners, then lends itself the money to pay off a fraction of the total debt and losses!!!


9 posted on 04/24/2010 4:05:25 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“What Kind of Socialist Is Barack Obama?”
Jonah Goldberg
May 2010

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/what-kind-of-socialist-is-barack-obama—15421


10 posted on 04/24/2010 4:05:47 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama touts the success of everything he has done since he came to office.

As usual -—he lies.


11 posted on 04/24/2010 4:06:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Sub-Driver

It is a “success” only if that is achieved by our having less of our own money and Zero increasing his power over our lives.


12 posted on 04/24/2010 4:08:34 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Sub-Driver

They have paid off, but not for the taxpayers. So he is right, technically


13 posted on 04/24/2010 4:15:39 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow he sure is up early making radio addresses while on vacation. The man is a machine! /s

Seriously, when was this written?


14 posted on 04/24/2010 4:17:12 AM PDT by doodad
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To: doodad

Obama who is paying the 9 billion in unfunded union benefits? GM or US taxpayer? US taxpayer


15 posted on 04/24/2010 4:31:30 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Sub-Driver

Give GM their own printing press and cut out the FED middle man.


16 posted on 04/24/2010 4:33:31 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Sub-Driver

Paid off the UAW......


17 posted on 04/24/2010 4:34:07 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is Spin, and here is why....

Notice this has been going on for how many days now? The repayment of the Tarp which is a government money from one pocket to the other. But they still repeat the lie... Why?

My pet theory is watch Tuesday the 27th.....

Why Tuesday? Ford's 1st Qtr Earnings.

My guess they will be through the roof (not investment advice here...) and Obama can't have that.

You see it is to much of a contrast, the mess GM and Chrysler are still in vs. the "Free Market" solution Ford took. It makes him look really bad.

Worse, it may make Mulally an even bigger hero and people will ask the inevitable question, does Mulally have a political career and IMHO he is a huge threat to Obama because he has gotten it done...

18 posted on 04/24/2010 4:48:42 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger
Note... Huge political threat, in terms of a out of the box candidate with an electorate ready to vote for a new face that is non of the above that we are so tired off....
19 posted on 04/24/2010 4:54:01 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Sub-Driver

They didn’t “pay it back” they gave the government ownership interest in stock. So, we the taxpayers bought a company that has a $27 billion unfunded pension fund owed to union workers. That was probably then entire reason for taking over GM, so that the taxpayer would be on the hook to pay off that pension fund and all future pension fund obligations in perpetuity. I wouldn’t be surprised if every union worker retires with a Senatorial pension.


20 posted on 04/24/2010 4:57:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: mainsail that

Yep, Lots of Zero’s cronies have been paid off, We, of course have been RIPPED off


21 posted on 04/24/2010 5:08:44 AM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: Quickgun

Apparently Obama lied again. GM didn’t pay anything back.

Outrage– GM Paid Back Bailout Money By Dipping Into Separate Bailout Pot (Video)

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/04/gm-paid-back-bailout-money-by-dipping-into-separate-bailout-pot-video/


22 posted on 04/24/2010 5:21:25 AM PDT by curth (Sarah Palin: 1.5M Facebook fans. "I'm In For $15 - Donate $15 to Sarahpac to celebrate!)
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To: Sub-Driver

TOTUS is a POS liar.


23 posted on 04/24/2010 5:21:54 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Sub-Driver
President Barack Obama said on Saturday taxpayer-funded bailouts of the auto industry that he approved had paid off

The people who originally loaned money to Chrysler got screwed. The contract or bond that they entered with that company was effectively declared null and void by this Administration. The written word no longer holds any meaning. We are now a nation which only honors graft and pull. When the looters have bled GM dry, who will they go after next? Oh well, who is John Galt?

24 posted on 04/24/2010 5:28:00 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama says auto bailouts have paid off

Oh yeah. Well Barry, I say: Space Aliens visit Earth regularly, Ghosts do exist, and Elvis faked his own death.

And the odd thing is Barry, my statement is more believable.
So stuff it you commieRAT toad.

25 posted on 04/24/2010 5:35:30 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This push to give the impression that GM has paid it all off and is back, suggests to me that a fair percentage of the American public actually was staying away from “Government Motors”.


26 posted on 04/24/2010 5:37:37 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Sub-Driver

EVERYTHING obama says is a LIE.

LLS


27 posted on 04/24/2010 5:40:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Gummint Motors sales are up because the Gummint has subsidized GMAC and is giving out low interest loans for 40 and 50 thousand dollar cars, putting all the risk on the taxpayers back.

Just like Fanny May and Freddie Mack, when the economy takes it's real hit, (Much, much bigger than the one we are now in.) there will not only be massive real estate collapses, there will be automobile foreclosures.

28 posted on 04/24/2010 5:40:48 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: curth
Curth, thanks for the video link, it is so telling.

Think about this for a moment.

If GM goes public and in our wildest dreams becomes an earnings machine, how long is it going to take to legidimately take to pay back the 27 billion in pension liabilities and also what they owe to uncle sugar? The total nut is what 43 billion?

Even if their earnings are 2 to 4 billion a year, that would take 10 to 20 years and literally leave no monies for R & D and product development.

This is British Leyland on Steriods, I cannot fathom how this business model transitions from the quasi-moto-fedzilla monster to an IPO to a money making company again. I cannot invision how to make this work, can anyone tell me how?

29 posted on 04/24/2010 5:40:50 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: taildragger

Just ask MaObama, he can spin any lie into a reality.


30 posted on 04/24/2010 5:45:16 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Sub-Driver
President Barack Obama said on Saturday taxpayer-funded bailouts of the auto industry that he approved had paid off, in what amounted to a rejection of conservative arguments against such government help.

Since you've spent more than all the previous pResidents combined....

You have a LOT more to pay off than auto-industry bailouts, Bucky!

31 posted on 04/24/2010 5:45:38 AM PDT by MamaTexan (If we could harness the power of Obama tooting his own horn, we wouldn't need fossil fuels!)
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To: Sub-Driver
yeah... he robbed Peter to pay Paul!!!
32 posted on 04/24/2010 5:45:54 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sub-Driver

When can I expect my check?


33 posted on 04/24/2010 5:47:04 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (I shot the rooster, the one that used'er, wake me up at four A.M....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sheesh...BO must think we just fell off the turnip truck.

Government Motors paying off their bailout with money borrowed from the taxpayers is NOT fooling anybody, BO.
GM has not made a profit yet, while Ford is doing fine without getting taxpayer funding.


34 posted on 04/24/2010 5:58:06 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Sub-Driver

Sheesh...BO must think we just fell off the turnip truck.

Government Motors paying off their bailout with money borrowed from the taxpayers is NOT fooling anybody, BO.
GM has not made a profit yet, while Ford is doing fine without getting taxpayer funding.


35 posted on 04/24/2010 5:58:23 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: rod1
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36 posted on 04/24/2010 6:01:06 AM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: fishtank

Out and out thievery.

Bond holders losses run from 64-97%.

What happens when those “funds” dry up? 401K’s???


37 posted on 04/24/2010 6:08:13 AM PDT by maggief (Not everything is what it seems.)
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“TOTUS is a POS liar.”

With no competition

GM essentially paid the interest on 52 billion

There is also a 27 billion unfunded pension

Result: Taxpayers take it in the a$$ for $79,000,000,000.00.


38 posted on 04/24/2010 6:38:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I have to think it’s illegal somewhere in the endless laws these clowns have written to have the gov’t subsidize a private company (GM) that’s competing with other companies not receiving gov’t handouts(Ford)


39 posted on 04/24/2010 6:40:19 AM PDT by Kenny
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I was fishing yesterday along with others who are still out of work and have not seen help from BOzo’s bailout. I was talking to a grocery guy who has worked grocery stores for years. He now works in a high end chain. He said things are the sh*ts and going to get worse. He was saying grocery outlets do amazing projection studies on everything from sea food to bread. They have to be able to project supply as well as sales or they are down the road. Well he said the projections for people buying looks disastrous. He has never seen it this bad in thirty years.
40 posted on 04/24/2010 6:47:31 AM PDT by jetson
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and GM is still losing money hands over fists still heading towards bankruptcy

And "Chrysler" is now little more than a nameplate owned by a foreign car company.

41 posted on 04/24/2010 6:50:33 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: jetson

They used to say, the worst day fishing is better than the best day doing anything else.

Sounds like your group disproved that.


42 posted on 04/24/2010 7:00:31 AM PDT by savedbygrace (Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All

Ed “I can respect that” Whitacre, you lying POS. The crash test dummies on the forklift behind you have more credibility. I have NO respect for lying POS scumbags like you and your boss...the lying POS president.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/22/video-ed-whitacre-tells-america-gm-has-repaid-u-s-loans-in-new/


43 posted on 04/24/2010 7:50:33 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: autumnraine

“GM PAID BACK LOANS FIVE YEARS EARLY!”

I heard an ad last night saying that and telling me why I should now buy one of GM’s “fine vehicles”. The spokesman acknowledged that the bailout had angered many people but that was all in the past.

It made me mad as hell and determined to NEVER purchase a GM vehicle. It was pure pandering and suggested that they recognize that they have a big PR problem. I haven’t seen sales figures for GM for the last couple of quarters, but they must really suck.

The whole ad had a kind of “we know we raped your daughter and burned down your house but we’ve turned over a new leaf so please forgive us” tone that was just sickening.


44 posted on 04/24/2010 10:02:19 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Sub-Driver

Keep reading what they put on the teleprompter Ohaha!


45 posted on 04/24/2010 10:26:59 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama says lots of stupid things.


46 posted on 04/24/2010 10:54:40 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: EEDUDE; All
EE...

See post 18..

Just my gut feel, why would they be doing a big PR campaign, that is full of prevarications (for those of you in Rio Linda that is a lie :-)) all week? Unless the free-market solution (Ford) makes them look bad, and path that was taken by them ( GM ) will bring them added scrutiny and make even more people pissed that their experiment maybe be based on a failed model and may ultimately fail....

47 posted on 04/24/2010 11:28:45 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: PGalt
Grassley Slams GM, Administration Over Loans Repaid With Bailout Money
48 posted on 04/24/2010 12:24:07 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: fishtank

concerning the stockholders...

their holdings were worthless


49 posted on 04/24/2010 3:41:47 PM PDT by element92
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama overlooked one small thing. .He had the bondholders for GM paid off on cents on the dollar and then had the bonds reissued to the unions. This is nationalization on a large scale.

Obama used the bankruptcy court to do it.

EFF OBAMA.

The bail out will never be OK because of the political crime commmitted against GM bond holders.


50 posted on 04/24/2010 4:01:24 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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