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S. Korea: Cheonan's Bow Salvaged(many photos)
Yonhap News ^
| 04/24/10
Posted on 04/24/2010 8:05:46 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
S. Korea: Cheonan's Bow Salvaged

















































TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: actofwar; bow; cheonan; nkorea; norkssunkthisboat; rememberthemaine; roknavy; rokscheonan; skorea
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:08:59 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:11:34 AM PDT
by
mnehring
To: TigerLikesRooster
Yikes! Way to many pictures. People on dial up will never get it loaded.
Very interesting though.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:14:09 AM PDT
by
Spunky
(You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Hopefully this will allow the South Koreans to figure out the impact point and size of the explosive to prove that it was an external explosion, how big it was and how close to the ship it was when it detonated. It would be nice to figure out if it was a torpedo, relatively recent mine or an old on left over from the war.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:18:49 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Thnaks for taking time to post these important and interesting photographs.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:20:37 AM PDT
by
Captain Rhino
(Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Wow...what great pictures!
No wonder we called them targets.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:21:07 AM PDT
by
montomike
(Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I forgot to add...
That crane on the different barges is proably more impressive than the ship...the half a ship.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT
by
montomike
(Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
In the explosion caused the metal to be bent inboard it was a mine or a torpedo!
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:23:38 AM PDT
by
WellyP
To: TigerLikesRooster
Does anyone know what is highlighted in the red circle?
To: TigerLikesRooster
Great series. It appears that the ship was blown into 2 halves..?! Wow!
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:24:57 AM PDT
by
gaijin
To: TigerLikesRooster; Robert A. Cook, PE
External explosion on the port side, just behind the tower.
WTF happened to the Bofors?
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:26:20 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: TigerLikesRooster
It looks like the filled it with a fiaming urethane compound that seeped out.
However, one of the turrets looks like it was blown outward with explosive force.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:29:09 AM PDT
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
To: patton
"WTF happened to the Bofors?" I was wondering the same thing...secondary ammunition explosion, maybe?
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:31:24 AM PDT
by
Flag_This
(ACORN delenda est)
To: Jewels1091
The circled red thing is a Torpedo launcher
To: Jewels1091
Two torpedoes from the ship were missing and they were found to be at the location marked with the red circle.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:36:29 AM PDT
by
TigerLikesRooster
(The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
To: Flag_This
Or, it could have busted when the hull hit the bottom. I don’t know.
But if it landed upside down, the tower would be crushed - so that seems not likely.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:36:46 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: bert
Yeah I see that... curious... Was it a gun turret or a radar director thingy? Great photos TLR.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:36:49 AM PDT
by
joelt
To: montomike
Yes....talk about heavy equipment. Did you see the size of those chains? I’m impressed.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:36:49 AM PDT
by
Loud Mime
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To: Flag_This
Actually, on a second look, the turret is definitely blown outward.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:38:42 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: bert
In the explosion were under the engine room it is likely the force of the explosion would have lifted the stack and surrounding structure.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:39:59 AM PDT
by
WellyP
To: Loud Mime
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:40:22 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: patton
Do you know if they store any live ammo in the turrets, or is that brought up from the magazine when needed?
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:43:25 AM PDT
by
Flag_This
(ACORN delenda est)
To: Flag_This
Both - a couple of rounds in the turret.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:46:20 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: TigerLikesRooster
Thanks, will look closer later.
At first glance, I thought they had brought up the whole ship.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:46:28 AM PDT
by
razorback-bert
(So many questions, so few answers about Barry.)
To: Spunky
Small pics aren’t much problem.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:46:43 AM PDT
by
SWAMPSNIPER
(The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
To: Flag_This
"WTF happened to the Bofors?"
I was wondering the same thing...secondary ammunition explosion, maybe?
Or got damaged in the lift. Look at the size of those lifting chains. Drag one of those across the sheet metal or fiberglass housing of that turret and you are going to do some serious damage.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:50:23 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: BIGLOOK
It appears that there was an explosion on the starboard side with a lot of intense heat which burned the paint off beside blowing the ship apart a little aft of its mid point.
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posted on
04/24/2010 8:54:53 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
To: GonzoGOP
"Or got damaged in the lift. " I'm just speculating, but it reminded me - on a much smaller scale - of the turret explosion on the U.S.S. Iowa.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:01:13 AM PDT
by
Flag_This
(ACORN delenda est)
To: patton; CPOSharky; Doohickey
Ship was sunk by an explosion low and aft of midships, near or under the engine room. It sunk, rolled over and went down with the hull high up when it struck the bottom. (See the crushed superstructure flattened by the ship’s weight: a flattened squished surface, but no explosive damage.)
The fiberglass Bofors gun casing was likewise cracked open by a rock sticking up from the bottom (or the bottom itself) like an eggshell would be cracked between a flat book and a countertop.
May their gods have mercy on the sailor’s souls.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:02:06 AM PDT
by
Robert A. Cook, PE
(I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Fiberglass? Really? Talk about a paper tiger...
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:05:10 AM PDT
by
patton
(Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:05:23 AM PDT
by
VOA
To: TigerLikesRooster
The size of the crane is incredible!
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:08:46 AM PDT
by
Vinnie
(You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
To: Flag_This
I'm just speculating, but it reminded me - on a much smaller scale - of the turret explosion on the U.S.S. Iowa.
There wasn't much external damage on the Iowa, aside from the weather boots being blown inside out. The gun houses on the old battlewaggons are tough.
As for this on the paint doesn't seem damage enough. If you had an ammo fire you would expect a lot of scorching and smoke damage. The turret appears to have been ripped apart by a giant version of Freddy Kruger.
The reason is suggested the lift chains is if you notice two of them are lined up just behind the turret. Prior to the lift those would be slack and laying across the ship. Then when they started lifting they would go taught and crunch anything in their path.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:10:02 AM PDT
by
GonzoGOP
(There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
So they were NOT hit by their own torpedo I guess?
Did they actually think that was a possibility?
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:11:57 AM PDT
by
GeronL
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To: Spunky
LOL...if someone is on dial up these days, even using the Internet is nearly impossible.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:14:16 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"The fiberglass Bofors gun casing was likewise cracked open by a rock sticking up from the bottom " Maybe. But to me, it looks like the damage is more to the side of the turret, than the top of it. It seems like the damage would require a very convenient rock.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:15:56 AM PDT
by
Flag_This
(ACORN delenda est)
To: TigerLikesRooster
I firmly believe the rat bastard Korean communists sank that vessel. No question. I believe those scumbags in their military and government have a long deserved beat down coming in their future.
In payback for the crew of the USS Pueblo (my father was an acquaintance of the skipper, CDR Bucher) and the murdered crew of the EC-121 that was shot down in 1969, I believe they have it coming.
I still think we should send in a B-1 with about ten MK84 JDAMS to put the poor USS Pueblo to rest.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:22:50 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
(We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
To: TigerLikesRooster
That is massive catastrophic destruction. That ship went down very fast.
And the blow came from below, there is no indication of fire on the upper surfaces of the ship indicating destruction from above, and destroyers don’t just cut themselves in half behind the conning tower.
Torpedo.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:34:28 AM PDT
by
Danae
(Don't like the Constitution, try living in a country with out one.)
To: Flag_This
I was thinking large debris falling through the water hitting after the Bow found the bottom.
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:36:41 AM PDT
by
Danae
(Don't like the Constitution, try living in a country with out one.)
To: TigerLikesRooster
Great post, that’s one heck of a crane ship!
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posted on
04/24/2010 9:45:47 AM PDT
by
DTogo
(High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
To: TigerLikesRooster
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posted on
04/24/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The Last Boy Scout)
To: TigerLikesRooster
To: razorback-bert
I believe they brought the stern up a few days ago.
“The front fell off!”
To: TigerLikesRooster
My compliments to the South Koreans: that was a very skillful and professional recovery job.
As I wrote earlier, (based on review of the Pohang class, and on stern section damage alone) the blast was placed (fore-aft) beneath the stack, possibly toward its forward end. And it was almost centered under the keel.
It's particularly useful that they recovered and photographed the stack section. I'll try piecing together a composite photo to see what that shows. If anything illuminating is revealed, I'll share it here......
My guess is that even the largest carrier would have difficulty surviving an explosion of that magnitude and placement.
~~~~~~~~
I hope the missing sailors' remains were all recovered.
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posted on
04/24/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: TigerLikesRooster; TXnMA
Revision: Aft end of the stack....
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posted on
04/24/2010 10:37:35 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: TXnMA
This was no boiler explosion then. right?
The explosion happened under the ship if you are correct.
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posted on
04/24/2010 10:41:28 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
To: Grampa Dave; Robert A. Cook, PE; Doohickey
Captain Cook's assessment sounds good. The explosion was near midships and engineering.....everything above is most likely secondary damage caused by an exploding power plant.
Too bad there isn't a clear photo of the hull below the waterline or any of the internal areas showing the cascade effect of the explosion.
I'll leave damage assessment to resident engineers and targeting to our resident Bubbleheads.
Meanwhile I'm going to check on the type of power plant on that ship.
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posted on
04/24/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
To: GeronL; TigerLikesRooster
External explosion -- well-placed for maximum damage to a ship of this class...
Torpedo or directly placed contact charge... Getting that precise placement with a static mine is highly unlikely (more like pure, rotten luck...).
This was a controlled and deliberate attack.
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posted on
04/24/2010 11:10:47 AM PDT
by
TXnMA
("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
To: Grampa Dave; Robert A. Cook, PE; Doohickey
The propulsion unit was a gas/diesel engine.....which explains the raging fires.
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posted on
04/24/2010 11:11:01 AM PDT
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress!)
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