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S. Korea: Cheonan's Bow Salvaged(many photos)
Yonhap News ^ | 04/24/10

Posted on 04/24/2010 8:05:46 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

S. Korea: Cheonan's Bow Salvaged



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: actofwar; bow; cheonan; nkorea; norkssunkthisboat; rememberthemaine; roknavy; rokscheonan; skorea
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1 posted on 04/24/2010 8:05:46 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 04/24/2010 8:08:59 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bfltr


3 posted on 04/24/2010 8:11:34 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yikes! Way to many pictures. People on dial up will never get it loaded.

Very interesting though.

4 posted on 04/24/2010 8:14:09 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hopefully this will allow the South Koreans to figure out the impact point and size of the explosive to prove that it was an external explosion, how big it was and how close to the ship it was when it detonated. It would be nice to figure out if it was a torpedo, relatively recent mine or an old on left over from the war.
5 posted on 04/24/2010 8:18:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thnaks for taking time to post these important and interesting photographs.


6 posted on 04/24/2010 8:20:37 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow...what great pictures!

No wonder we called them targets.


7 posted on 04/24/2010 8:21:07 AM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I forgot to add...

That crane on the different barges is proably more impressive than the ship...the half a ship.


8 posted on 04/24/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

In the explosion caused the metal to be bent inboard it was a mine or a torpedo!


9 posted on 04/24/2010 8:23:38 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Does anyone know what is highlighted in the red circle?


10 posted on 04/24/2010 8:24:52 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Great series. It appears that the ship was blown into 2 halves..?! Wow!


11 posted on 04/24/2010 8:24:57 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Robert A. Cook, PE

External explosion on the port side, just behind the tower.

WTF happened to the Bofors?


12 posted on 04/24/2010 8:26:20 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It looks like the filled it with a fiaming urethane compound that seeped out.

However, one of the turrets looks like it was blown outward with explosive force.


13 posted on 04/24/2010 8:29:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: patton
"WTF happened to the Bofors?"

I was wondering the same thing...secondary ammunition explosion, maybe?

14 posted on 04/24/2010 8:31:24 AM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: Jewels1091

The circled red thing is a Torpedo launcher


15 posted on 04/24/2010 8:36:05 AM PDT by chemical_boy
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To: Jewels1091

Two torpedoes from the ship were missing and they were found to be at the location marked with the red circle.


16 posted on 04/24/2010 8:36:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Flag_This

Or, it could have busted when the hull hit the bottom. I don’t know.

But if it landed upside down, the tower would be crushed - so that seems not likely.


17 posted on 04/24/2010 8:36:46 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: bert

Yeah I see that... curious... Was it a gun turret or a radar director thingy? Great photos TLR.


18 posted on 04/24/2010 8:36:49 AM PDT by joelt
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To: montomike

Yes....talk about heavy equipment. Did you see the size of those chains? I’m impressed.


19 posted on 04/24/2010 8:36:49 AM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: Flag_This

Actually, on a second look, the turret is definitely blown outward.


20 posted on 04/24/2010 8:38:42 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: bert
In the explosion were under the engine room it is likely the force of the explosion would have lifted the stack and surrounding structure.
21 posted on 04/24/2010 8:39:59 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Loud Mime

“MegaMovers”, indeed.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 8:40:22 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: patton

Do you know if they store any live ammo in the turrets, or is that brought up from the magazine when needed?


23 posted on 04/24/2010 8:43:25 AM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: Flag_This

Both - a couple of rounds in the turret.


24 posted on 04/24/2010 8:46:20 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks, will look closer later.

At first glance, I thought they had brought up the whole ship.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 8:46:28 AM PDT by razorback-bert (So many questions, so few answers about Barry.)
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To: Spunky

Small pics aren’t much problem.


26 posted on 04/24/2010 8:46:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Flag_This
"WTF happened to the Bofors?"

I was wondering the same thing...secondary ammunition explosion, maybe?


Or got damaged in the lift. Look at the size of those lifting chains. Drag one of those across the sheet metal or fiberglass housing of that turret and you are going to do some serious damage.
27 posted on 04/24/2010 8:50:23 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: BIGLOOK

It appears that there was an explosion on the starboard side with a lot of intense heat which burned the paint off beside blowing the ship apart a little aft of its mid point.


28 posted on 04/24/2010 8:54:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Use your $'s as weapons! Boycott Gay Frisco, since they keep Pelosi in congress.)
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To: GonzoGOP
"Or got damaged in the lift. "

I'm just speculating, but it reminded me - on a much smaller scale - of the turret explosion on the U.S.S. Iowa.

29 posted on 04/24/2010 9:01:13 AM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: patton; CPOSharky; Doohickey

Ship was sunk by an explosion low and aft of midships, near or under the engine room. It sunk, rolled over and went down with the hull high up when it struck the bottom. (See the crushed superstructure flattened by the ship’s weight: a flattened squished surface, but no explosive damage.)

The fiberglass Bofors gun casing was likewise cracked open by a rock sticking up from the bottom (or the bottom itself) like an eggshell would be cracked between a flat book and a countertop.

May their gods have mercy on the sailor’s souls.


30 posted on 04/24/2010 9:02:06 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Fiberglass? Really? Talk about a paper tiger...


31 posted on 04/24/2010 9:05:10 AM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bump


32 posted on 04/24/2010 9:05:23 AM PDT by VOA
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The size of the crane is incredible!


33 posted on 04/24/2010 9:08:46 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Flag_This
I'm just speculating, but it reminded me - on a much smaller scale - of the turret explosion on the U.S.S. Iowa.

There wasn't much external damage on the Iowa, aside from the weather boots being blown inside out. The gun houses on the old battlewaggons are tough.

As for this on the paint doesn't seem damage enough. If you had an ammo fire you would expect a lot of scorching and smoke damage. The turret appears to have been ripped apart by a giant version of Freddy Kruger.

The reason is suggested the lift chains is if you notice two of them are lined up just behind the turret. Prior to the lift those would be slack and laying across the ship. Then when they started lifting they would go taught and crunch anything in their path.
34 posted on 04/24/2010 9:10:02 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So they were NOT hit by their own torpedo I guess?

Did they actually think that was a possibility?


35 posted on 04/24/2010 9:11:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Spunky

LOL...if someone is on dial up these days, even using the Internet is nearly impossible.


36 posted on 04/24/2010 9:14:16 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"The fiberglass Bofors gun casing was likewise cracked open by a rock sticking up from the bottom "

Maybe. But to me, it looks like the damage is more to the side of the turret, than the top of it. It seems like the damage would require a very convenient rock.

37 posted on 04/24/2010 9:15:56 AM PDT by Flag_This (ACORN delenda est)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I firmly believe the rat bastard Korean communists sank that vessel. No question. I believe those scumbags in their military and government have a long deserved beat down coming in their future.

In payback for the crew of the USS Pueblo (my father was an acquaintance of the skipper, CDR Bucher) and the murdered crew of the EC-121 that was shot down in 1969, I believe they have it coming.

I still think we should send in a B-1 with about ten MK84 JDAMS to put the poor USS Pueblo to rest.


38 posted on 04/24/2010 9:22:50 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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That is massive catastrophic destruction. That ship went down very fast.

And the blow came from below, there is no indication of fire on the upper surfaces of the ship indicating destruction from above, and destroyers don’t just cut themselves in half behind the conning tower.

Torpedo.


39 posted on 04/24/2010 9:34:28 AM PDT by Danae (Don't like the Constitution, try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Flag_This

I was thinking large debris falling through the water hitting after the Bow found the bottom.


40 posted on 04/24/2010 9:36:41 AM PDT by Danae (Don't like the Constitution, try living in a country with out one.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Great post, that’s one heck of a crane ship!


41 posted on 04/24/2010 9:45:47 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

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42 posted on 04/24/2010 10:01:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thank you for the ping.


43 posted on 04/24/2010 10:03:40 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: razorback-bert

I believe they brought the stern up a few days ago.

“The front fell off!”


44 posted on 04/24/2010 10:15:01 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
My compliments to the South Koreans: that was a very skillful and professional recovery job.

As I wrote earlier, (based on review of the Pohang class, and on stern section damage alone) the blast was placed (fore-aft) beneath the stack, possibly toward its forward end. And it was almost centered under the keel.

It's particularly useful that they recovered and photographed the stack section. I'll try piecing together a composite photo to see what that shows. If anything illuminating is revealed, I'll share it here......

My guess is that even the largest carrier would have difficulty surviving an explosion of that magnitude and placement.

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I hope the missing sailors' remains were all recovered.

45 posted on 04/24/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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Revision: Aft end of the stack....


46 posted on 04/24/2010 10:37:35 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

This was no boiler explosion then. right?

The explosion happened under the ship if you are correct.


47 posted on 04/24/2010 10:41:28 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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Captain Cook's assessment sounds good. The explosion was near midships and engineering.....everything above is most likely secondary damage caused by an exploding power plant.

Too bad there isn't a clear photo of the hull below the waterline or any of the internal areas showing the cascade effect of the explosion.

I'll leave damage assessment to resident engineers and targeting to our resident Bubbleheads.

Meanwhile I'm going to check on the type of power plant on that ship.
48 posted on 04/24/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: GeronL; TigerLikesRooster
External explosion -- well-placed for maximum damage to a ship of this class...

Torpedo or directly placed contact charge... Getting that precise placement with a static mine is highly unlikely (more like pure, rotten luck...).

This was a controlled and deliberate attack.

49 posted on 04/24/2010 11:10:47 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Grampa Dave; Robert A. Cook, PE; Doohickey
The propulsion unit was a gas/diesel engine.....which explains the raging fires.


50 posted on 04/24/2010 11:11:01 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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